is mixing with CD's and mp3 cheating ?

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April 18, 2006 at 4:28 pm #1037545
Mongo
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come on, it’s all about time code and set bpms, ain’t it,

is it really skill ?

😛
April 18, 2006 at 4:29 pm #1070449
Harry
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No.

Every mp3 dj i have met cannot mix.

Cheating bastards.
April 18, 2006 at 4:30 pm #1070424
JE5
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Except Surgeon.
April 18, 2006 at 4:30 pm #1070433
Mongo
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Harry wrote:

No.

Every mp3 dj i have met cannot mix.

Cheating bastards.

do you mean, yes, none of these said djays could realy mix ? 😉
April 18, 2006 at 4:31 pm #1070450
Harry
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Mongo Hippy wrote:

is it really skill ?

I answered that
April 18, 2006 at 4:31 pm #1070434
Mongo
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JE:5 wrote:

Except Surgeon.

i’m sure surgeon used to mix vinyl tho ?
April 18, 2006 at 4:32 pm #1070435
Mongo
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Harry wrote:

I answered that

yes i’m an idiot 🙂
April 18, 2006 at 4:32 pm #1070425
JE5
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Yeah he did, he uses ableton I think now, and he’s very good at what he does mixing loads of different styles together but keeping it rocking at the same time.
April 18, 2006 at 4:32 pm #1070451
Harry
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Mongo Hippy wrote:

yes i’m an idiot 🙂

Noted
April 18, 2006 at 4:33 pm #1070447
clackstaan
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If you beatmatch by ear then i suppose its ok.
April 18, 2006 at 4:34 pm #1070452
Harry
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clackstaan wrote:

If you beatmatch by ear then i suppose its ok.

yep
April 18, 2006 at 4:35 pm #1070436
Mongo
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clackstaan wrote:

If you beatmatch by ear then i suppose its ok.

tbf, i’ve try cding and just can’t jog that wheel right, in a beatmatching style 😛

and trakkor, it’s like program assembly code on a z80 chip 😉
April 18, 2006 at 4:36 pm #1070443
J. BStard.
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If you can mix, you can mix. It doesn’t matter what tools you use. I’m just as happy on my Denon as I am on my technics as I am on Traktor.
April 18, 2006 at 4:38 pm #1070426
JE5
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I’ve used some proper old skool denon cd decks and I could lock them in about 50% quicker than I can Technics.
April 18, 2006 at 4:39 pm #1070432
TechnicianKC
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Mongo Hippy wrote:

come on, it’s all about time code and set bpms, ain’t it,

is it really skill ?

😛

It’s cheating in the same way that playing records rather than instruments is!

For someone like me that makes all the music I play, it’s the only rational way of doing it. Getting 70+ tunes pressed to vinyl isn’t a practical alternative. I used to use CD’s but now use Traktor. Our other resident DJ’s also use Traktor, a lot of the material they play doesn’t get released on vinyl.

Being a DJ isn’t just about beat-matching by ear it’s as much about your choice of tunes, good mxing and getting a set that flows well.
April 18, 2006 at 4:40 pm #1070444
J. BStard.
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I’ve got the posharse 3500, but the oldskool denons rock once you get your head round it. Same with just about everything really. Except Gemini.
April 18, 2006 at 4:41 pm #1070437
Mongo
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TechnicianKC wrote:

It’s cheating in the same way that playing records rather than instruments is!

For someone like me that makes all the music I play, it’s the only rational way of doing it. Getting 70+ tunes pressed to vinyl isn’t a practical alternative. I used to use CD’s but now use Traktor. Our other resident DJ’s also use Traktor, a lot of the material they play doesn’t get released on vinyl.

Being a DJ isn’t just about beat-matching by ear it’s as much about your choice of tunes, good mxing and getting a set that flows well.

nice one, and fair comment 🙂
April 18, 2006 at 4:42 pm #1070427
JE5
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Mongo Hippy wrote:

tbf, i’ve try cding and just can’t jog that wheel right, in a beatmatching style 😛

and trakkor, it’s like program assembly code on a z80 chip 😉

I only got as far as learning hex assembly code on a 6502 😉
April 18, 2006 at 4:46 pm #1070438
Mongo
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@JE:5]I only got as far as learning hex assembly code on a 6502 )[/QUOTE wrote:

hex omg

LDA ff

etc that’s all i remember tho 😉
April 18, 2006 at 4:51 pm #1070428
JE5
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Mongo Hippy wrote:

hex omg

LDA ff

etc that’s all i remember tho 😉

Load the accumulator with the value of the operand – ff 😉
April 18, 2006 at 5:13 pm #1070448
dan u
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Harry wrote:

No.

Every mp3 dj i have met cannot mix.

Cheating bastards.

see itsy hyb for someone who disproves your theory

its a different skill for sure, but its a skill none the less
April 18, 2006 at 5:25 pm #1070441
titch
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Ive not heard a CD mix yet thats better than a all Vinyl mix. Heard sets by DJ’s like Carl Cox, Slipmatt and Jeff Mills on CD’s. Normally there sets are brilliant, but they were dull on CD’s.

Still prefere the sound and feel of vinyl, but I think its ok for DJ’s to play a few CD’s during a set, saves DJ’s getting Dubplates cut for the new stuff.

Long live VInyl !!!!!!!!!
April 18, 2006 at 5:30 pm #1070429
JE5
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I’ve come to accept that both methods have their pros and cons.
April 18, 2006 at 5:33 pm #1070453
DanCuntstable
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I can see your point KC, thats why i think cd/mp3 mixers are a good idea./ I believe mixing with vinyl is much more skill. Every bit of vinyl is different in the way is pressed, making it more temporamental on the way it moves on the deck. Therefore making it more skill to control imo
April 18, 2006 at 6:00 pm #1070445
J. BStard.
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Something I have noticed is because tracks on wav/mp3 don’t go through the vinyl mastering process they seem to lack the oomph of vinyl.

Time to get T-Racks out I reckon.

(Obviously this doesn’t apply to all you pirates with mp3s recorded off vinyl)
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