thats what I was pointing out – at present, the more people stick their neck out without addressing the wider issues (drug addiction, noise, trouble etc) they will just provoke a backlash. When Advance party (IMO the last effective campaign) was around they overlooked the problems with the smashy smashy crew which were already happening back then, plus all the squatters getting on to K or heroin.

This why I suggested the only thing worth doing on the party scene is well run parties – they are actually possible even today for those who aren’t dumbed down and disorganised. These days I don’t believe in the K “conspiracy” theory (that it was sent by “babylon”) as too many people won’t exercise self control and its what fucks them over in the end.

IMO the only political movements worth supporting are those campaigns which lobby for more sensible licensing and drug laws – a combination of proper education as well as controls/enforcement so people learn their limits themselves instead of having to have them enforced all the time by the cops…