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March 27, 2008 at 2:37 am #1216841
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    boothy wrote:
    I see what you are saying. People can also commit a one-off violent offence that is misjudged rather than self defence. I wasn’t talking about serious serious offences such as near murder, but the two people mentioned in this thread – actions like those.

    I’d say the first person in the threads offence was minor, and his penalty also minor. it may even have been self-defence or not without provocation.

    Choci and the taxi driver – I’m not so sure. He got a fair stretch at the time when Blair had just got in and Britain was a lot more liberal and lenient than I ever remember it to be in my lifetime which would indicate that it was a serious incident.

    then allegations arise over further offences.

    he’s went from being a successful big name DJ to a violent criminal, and its not even like grooverider who harmed noone but just had drugs.

    I’m sorry but that isn’t being a disadvantaged youth. Thats being a fucking numpty and destroying everything he worked for.

    Anyway I think he paid the price for ending (or damaging) the taxi drivers career with his music career, and so justice has been done.

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    I don’t know. Personally in my experience if someone does something that’s a bit off and wrong and people snub them for it, they fall part of a crowd who accept it as the right thing to do – i.e. gangs and alike.

    And then that person just falls down shit-creek without a paddle, yet if people had been willing to give a second chance they could still have been a decent person and done positive things with their life.

    I’ve found that the sort of people who are driven to gang culture were always a bit angry and violent and prepared to take physical action, and if a peer group of todays society with often a less authoritarian outlook on life do snub them then they genuinely have been sociopathic.

    Even then they do get chances from todays politically correct justice system, but too many piss those chances up the wall. What I draw from mine and others personal experence of the criminal justice system, is that is it is lenient compared to 10-20 years ago (and there are a lot more chances for rehab, such as a mate who taught himself IT and reading skills in prison (he was barely literate before then).

    But in some cases there has to be a time where the cell doors shut, and stay shut.