K

[1984]

damn u tollerance, damn u.

[CozMik]

happens to the best of us!
have a kitkat..

[p0ly]

fuckin tolerance!! gets to me too

[Compo]

Know what ya mean...

I had a snowboard injury a while back that needed an immediate op...
The nurse couldn't understand why I had such a high tolerance to Morphine!

Never done it before, but it made me think that maybe I DO take a fair bit of other stuff - then again, I just put it down to the quality nowadays... Simples!

[Iacchus]

tell me about it, havent had a proper khole since glade :(

[Iacchus]

(and i made myself ill getting there)

[Soul glow Bro]

indeed, i got my gifts from that and then all went down hill..so ive packed it in for now and hopefully for a long while.

[TheLostOne]

Last time I had K, it was off some random thugs that I thought were going to rob me when I was pissed as fuck walking back from town about 4 in the morning. They were from the shittiest estate around, me being drunk I was like 'give some drugs'. Thought they was going to knock me the fuck out. We sat at the random place and shovelled lots of K up our noses, I hardly ever do K,Can't remember going home after that.

[DJCliffy]

I ain't touched K in a long old time, I reckon a small amount of (good) k would fuck me right up!!!

[deliriyummy]

Ket can make me so paranoied lol... i never give it the change to give me a tollerance. Only with very trusted lovely people will i partake.

[p0ly]

well the people round here sell tiletamine as k

fucking filthy shit that scrambles ur mind rots you big time and makes u very addicted

no more for me, been chasing the k hole and just cannot get it anymore :(

[CozMik]

u gotta keep in mind that different batches of ket will produce different effects. it pays to know ur source. if ur after trippy experience go for the s-isomer ketamine, if u want melow relaxant go for racemic. they both contain different ingredients and i have found there effects to be considerably varied.
ive heard people saying that u can get rhino ket, donkey ket, cat ket, etc etc that all produce different effects. sounds a load of bollocks to me like. i gues youd have to be good friends with a vet in order to find out.

[Tank Girl]

should be enough to stop anyone caining K too much IMO :hopeless: not appealing to me in the slightest, and this certainly puts me off any curiosity

Ketamine Bladder Removal Risk identified - Skrufff.com

Reported by Tristan Ingram on February 10, 2009

British doctors and drugs researchers announced this week that they’ve uncovered a significant link between ketamine use and serious urinary problems, following an investigation by the BBC.
Symptoms of damage included ‘wanting to go to the toilet all the time, often getting up in the night as many as 30 times, and finding the process agonising’, the BBC reported, while David Gillatt, a consultant urologist at Southmead Hospital revealed that some K users have required ‘major surgery to remove the bladder’.

"These people are often in their teens through to 20s, maybe 30s at the oldest,” said Dr Gillatt, “And that's something they'll have to live with for the rest of their days."

Dr Gillatt’s experiences matched those of fellow British urological expert Dr Angela Cottrell who raised the issue in Mixmag in October last year.

“In these cases (of ketamine users with severe urinary problems) the only option we have is to remove the bladder,” she said, “Which means the patient is stuck with a urostomy bag for the rest of their life.”

The dire consequences of bladder removal (cystectomy) are further outlined by the Christie Foundation in a booklet published online by the NHS cancer specialists.

“When major surgery is carried out, such as a cystectomy operation, the nerves that supply the penis are affected,” the booklet reveals, “This means that the ability to obtain an erection is lost. This effect is usually permanent in most men,” says Christies.

[1984]

u gotta keep in mind that different batches of ket will produce different effects. it pays to know ur source. if ur after trippy experience go for the s-isomer ketamine, if u want melow relaxant go for racemic. they both contain different ingredients and i have found there effects to be considerably varied.
ive heard people saying that u can get rhino ket, donkey ket, cat ket, etc etc that all produce different effects. sounds a load of bollocks to me like. i gues youd have to be good friends with a vet in order to find out.

The difference is so minimal, it is tolerance and the fact that drug effects change over time as you use them. For example, first year of being a stoner for most people and you can get giggle fits and all sorts of fun stuff. Try getting that 4 years later, even with a year off.

People who have abused k find it very hard to K hole in my experience, or at least, K hole in the same way that was possible when you started. I cant ever get any visuals any more, used to get visuals that were far more powerful than cid.

tbh I cant wait to get drugs totally out of my life, no more crappy party's, no more pissing away my money, no more risk to my body and mind. Cant bloody wait.

[Tank Girl]

tbh I cant wait to get drugs totally out of my life, no more crappy party's, no more pissing away my money, no more risk to my body and mind. Cant bloody wait.
:group_hug

[1984]

should be enough to stop anyone caining K too much IMO :hopeless: not appealing to me in the slightest, and this certainly puts me off any curiosity

I know a few people without bladders now, well, know them vaguely at any rate. What always amazes me is how people get into drugs and don't even bother to find out the risks. The bladder thing has been known about for a long time now, yet u still see posts from people who had "no idea". Its the Darwin effect I reckon, some people are just not meant to survive.

[Tank Girl]

I know a few people without bladders now, well, know them vaguely at any rate. What always amazes me is how people get into drugs and don't even bother to find out the risks. The bladder thing has been known about for a long time now, yet u still see posts from people who had "no idea". Its the Darwin effect I reckon, some people are just not meant to survive.


well the potential negative side of all substances can be addiction, self destruct, ignorance - rather than the fluffy fun, educated side for some people.

Everyones an individual and uses for whatever reason, but we can all cross the line on occasion - depending on whats going on at whatever particular time - but when it comes to recreations use of a substance its always best to be informed -

However if your in an addictive spiral (physical or mental) negatives often dont come into it - until / if said person is ready to address it - loosing - job, home, kids, limbs etc isnt always enough and going over and being brought back also isnt always enough .....

Ketamine Bladder Syndrome (http://www.ketaminebladdersyndrome.com/KBS/Welcome.html)

[DJCliffy]

Its the Darwin effect I reckon, some people are just not meant to survive.

I apply the Darwin effect to those who cross the road without looking both ways. Gotta love Darwinism!

[CozMik]

around 20% of the k heads i know are currently suffering with some sort of fucked up bladder condition. the remaining 80% have been wise enough to take precautions and have looked after themselves. i reckon that 20% were gonna fuck up one way or another anyways, k has just been the easyest thing available to do it to them.

[Tank Girl]

] i reckon that 20% were gonna fuck up one way or another anyways, k has just been the easyest thing available to do it to them.
prob too true

[1984]

well the potential negative side of all substances can be addiction, self destruct, ignorance - rather than the fluffy fun, educated side for some people.

Everyones an individual and uses for whatever reason, but we can all cross the line on occasion - depending on whats going on at whatever particular time - but when it comes to recreations use of a substance its always best to be informed -

However if your in an addictive spiral (physical or mental) negatives often dont come into it - until / if said person is ready to address it - loosing - job, home, kids, limbs etc isnt always enough and going over and being brought back also isnt always enough .....

Ketamine Bladder Syndrome (http://www.ketaminebladdersyndrome.com/KBS/Welcome.html)

oh yeah I dont mean to suggest everyone who gets addicted is just some idiot who didnt know about the risks. K can be a very evil drug with horrible addictive qualities. And unhappy people and K really don't mix. But then there arnt many happy people that feel the need to pump their body's full of that crap and stand in fields all night listening bad quality mixing.