[RC] Are there downers?

[moonsh0t]

I'm new to the world of RC. So far I've found a lot of information on upper RC's, but nothing really on any downers.

Just wondering if there's something out there that feels like more of an opiate/pain killer?

[p0ly]

phenazepam is a legal benzo, pretty damn good but long lasting

[moonsh0t]

phenazepam is a legal benzo, pretty damn good but long lasting


do you have a website for that p0ly? PM me if so :wink:

[p0ly]

i used to but it's gone now :( but it often comes around on ebay

[dynamickid]

what about the recent availability of O-Desmethyltramadol. it is the metabolite of Tramadol(Ultrim,Ultracet, Amadol) seems to be about three time more potent than the pharms.

[moonsh0t]

yea I read about that o-desmethyltramadol earlier today. Tramadol doesn't do much for me unfortunately.

[Tank Girl]

what about the recent availability of O-Desmethyltramadol. it is the metabolite of Tramadol(Ultrim,Ultracet, Amadol) seems to be about three time more potent than the pharms.

yea I read about that o-desmethyltramadol earlier today. Tramadol doesn't do much for me unfortunately.
Tramadol is pretty strong -



why dont you just get some smack then?

[p0ly]

what about the recent availability of O-Desmethyltramadol. it is the metabolite of Tramadol(Ultrim,Ultracet, Amadol) seems to be about three time more potent than the pharms.

i've tried that but it was marketed as 50x krypton kratom

[p0ly]

Tramadol is pretty strong -



why dont you just get some smack then?

cos he's after legals

[dynamickid]

i've tried that but it was marketed as 50x krypton kratom


Really? that's a major WTF¿

[Tank Girl]

cos he's after legals

sorry being facecious -



tramadols legal you just need a bored or nice GP :wink:

my bro in law is PX'd tons weekly.............

[p0ly]

yeah read up about it!! that could cause deaths if someone ate aload of it

[moonsh0t]

Tramadol is pretty strong -



why dont you just get some smack then?

SWIM has tried Tramadol a lot. SWIM doesn't get the euphoric wrapped up in a blanket feeling from tramadol that SWIM gets from other opiates. (codeine)

haha SWIM stuff still confuses me

[dynamickid]

yea I read about that o-desmethyltramadol earlier today. Tramadol doesn't do much for me unfortunately.


Maybe with it being in an active metabolite, your body can absorb it better?

kinda like codeine and morphine. Some work better on certain people.

[p0ly]

whats your favourite painpill?

[dynamickid]

I hate pain pills, and most pharms out there! just like to expand the mind. They tend to clog me up!

[moonsh0t]

probably 10/325 Hydrocodones. Take 3 and feel so warm and cozy for 4 hours or so :)

[Tank Girl]

IThey tend to clog me up!



literally -



opiates are very good to constipate you :hopeless:

[dynamickid]

I was meaning mentally. LMAO. You are correct though, they can stop you up as well.

[p0ly]

yeah psychedelics are the best to be honest, but it is nice to indulge in bad stuff sometimes

[moonsh0t]

yes the constipation from a codeine habit is awful.. not to mention the terrible runs you get when you decide to stop.. EEEEEK

[dynamickid]

I only will drink if I am in the mood for some laid back crazyness.

[Tank Girl]

I was meaning mentally. LMAO. You are correct though, they can stop you up as well.
I know I was playing on words :laugh_at:


opiates are ok but as with everything you need to be careful - and esp as you can build tolerance up so quicly - I know I did - on prescription coedine.


and physical tolerance is so much harder to stop than psychologiacl for some peeps


opiates - fun but not in the long run at all...........

[p0ly]

can you get much of a good hit off codeine?

[Tank Girl]

can you get much of a good hit off codeine?
depends on tolorance -


and it differs from person to person


I was presribed 30mg straight with no paracetamol -

took the months worth in a week - obviously drinking too :wink:



they refused to prescribe again unless it had paracetamol in it - stops you over using app



later for my arms / hand prob

had 30mg (codiene phosphate) parcetamol 500mg, and as hadnt had any in ages got quite monged, and spacey first and second dose - with in days was on x2 tabs 4 times a day with no noticable differance


for months and months



then put on co-dydramol dihydrocoedine 10mg para 500mg, fine as had built up a tolerance to my prescription - no noticable difference at all


then 4th op - didnt take so many / hardly any pain killers at all before it -


on the co-dydramol after op and chucking my guts up as no used to the strength



not used em for months - back bad after crash took 2 ( when was used to taking 8 +) and nauseous, itchy and fucked...... tolerance right back down




my bro in laws GP clocked on to him - prescribed patches to stop him over using - he eneded up either wearing 2 ir 3 patches in stead.....



opiate addiction is nothing to fuck about with IMO

[p0ly]

yes! i finally managed to get hold of some oxycodone which i've been after for years!!

it's quite potent but i was disappointed to tell the truth

[Tank Girl]

yes! i finally managed to get hold of some oxycodone which i've been after for years!!

it's quite potent but i was disappointed to tell the truth
you maybe dissapointed but do be careful honey

physical tolerance to opiates happens quite fast and is a cunt to deal with if in it

[p0ly]

oh ye i definitely noticed intense physical tolerance!! but i got these as a one off cos my mates dad died on it (cancer)

RIP

[Tank Girl]

oh ye i definitely noticed intense physical tolerance!! but i got these as a one off cos my mates dad died on it (cancer)

RIP
:hopeless: shame - RIP


thats how most peeps get 'borrowing' off cancer sufferers ....

[p0ly]

by the way the guy passed away as he was an alcoholic for a long time, just thought i'd mention it!

[Tank Girl]

by the way the guy passed away as he was an alcoholic for a long time, just thought i'd mention it!
no need


i got lorazepam and other off me uncle :wink:

me dad stole the viagra :laugh_at:


( and copious ammonuts of porn :weee:)

I got the whiskey and rum :wink:

[p0ly]

hmmm i think u misread me =p

lorazepam, that's very dose sensitive isn't it. 2mg doses?

[Tank Girl]

hmmm i think u misread me =p

no, was just telling you what we got when me uncle passed :wink:

lorazepam is a short acting benzo -



so if not used to,
can be very strong....



much less half life than diaz etc

[p0ly]

what is the half life of diazy btw?

[Tank Girl]

what is the half life of diazy btw?
not sure as me BNF doesnt say -


wiki says 20 - 50 hours????



but am thinking this is more guess work or dose indicated - without telling the dose :hopeless:

as it can be adminsistered every 4 hours,

oxazepem better for peeps with liver disorders as half life shorter and much easier to metabollise ,



but far too pissed to really work out for you P0ly

[p0ly]

i've taken phenazepam, the half life for that is long... 60 hours =o