New reserch Chems

[shamtul]

With the more than possible ban on 4-MMC in the near future, I was just wondering if anyone knew of any other similar reserch chems that have not yet come into the media spotlight... Wish people hadnt been soo stupid as to over do 4-mmc as realy like it, gutted its gonna dissapear off the radar soon. Even if it is still avalible through non legal sorces the price is prob gonna hike up to that of coke.

[Angel]

I wonder why you ask on a public forum when you say you don't want it to come in to the public media..

:crazy_diz

Other people that the members here read the forum, and you really don't know who they are..

[Iacchus]

MDPV - new research chem stimulant.. small dosage required which is good. 4 hits (40mg) for a tenner round here but its legal can probably be bought online

[General Lighting]

I have a nasty feeling that all the RC's what haven't been already made illegal are more poisonous than either existing street drugs or new RC's...

MDPV has a fuckload of side effects according to this wiki and appears to be even more similar to methamfetamine than 4-MMC

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone)

[Iacchus]

indeed, nothing is more tried and tested then good old fashioned MDMA!

but desperate times call for desperate measures

[General Lighting]

if people get too desparate the whole EU could go on lockdown though and the prohibitionists will win another battle.. Bear in mind too many people take for granted our public healthcare service and go running to them after they have overdone it..

in other EU nations such as where Angel lives their government is a lot more right on and democratic than ours and yet they are first to outlaw RC's because of the burden their users put on the health services (as well as the suffering the individual users go through).

the real solution is tolerance and acceptance of recreational drug use in the EU if not worldwide (and with Barack Obama now in power there's slightly more chance of getting away with this without provoking negative sanctions from the USA) but it won't happen until users learn to self-regulate...

[elretardo87]

MDPV has a fuckload of side effects according to this wiki and appears to be even more similar to methamfetamine than 4-MMC

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone)


I would ignore the wiki article. The dangers with MDPV usually come from the fact that the dose is so small that most people fuck themselves up. This is a chem that is fun and a lot safer than many of the others but gets a bad rap because no one knows about it (or believes that such a small dose will do anything).

A dose is like 8-12mg but most people who buy grams of the internet will do big fat lines of it and end up awake for 3 days tweaking with heart palpatations. Also avoid more than 3 doses in quick succession.

[General Lighting]

the other issue is how many people have the scientific equipment required to measure out such a small dose or can get access to it?

[Iacchus]

indeed, dont do it unless u have milligram sensitive scales and know what you're doing

agree the bad reports are generally down to people being idiots and overdoing it, but still stick to tried and tested stimulants when u can

[Buzz]

fuck taking all these new stimulants, gonna fuck you up more than MDMA every could. try them if you want, but bear in mind no one really has any idea what they can do to you in the long run.

[TheLostOnes]

MDPV is a learned high, you have to know before doing it, what it is all about. Not really a party drug imo, good but a bit of a wierdos drug.

[p0ly]

MDPV is sick, 3 hour high snorted then the worst comedown!!

[TheLostOnes]

Yeah that what I mean when I say it is a bit of a weirdos drug, pointless for recreation great for people who just want stimulation plus a 15 hour sex session.

[p0ly]

i know of some research drugs, but they're precious

[vernting]

mdpv is great cos its so fucking small and potent! i think 2c-t-2 and 2c-t-7 and 2c-I and 2c-E are much better ,its all about the 8 hr wibbly wobbly ones methinks not just plain old rocket dust

[barafundle]

indeed, nothing is more tried and tested then good old fashioned MDMA!

but desperate times call for desperate measures

problem is in north scotland there isnt any! lol

[barafundle]

im not too sure but wasnt ketamine a research drug just as humans started with it? somehow it sticks in my head lol

[MisterDuck]

problem is in north scotland there isnt any! lol

ain't any decent stuff anywhere mate

supply has gone tits-up, think GL has posted reasons behind this a few times

anyone who says they have still have a consistent source of good stuff is chattin shit

[MisterDuck]

fuck taking all these new stimulants, gonna fuck you up more than MDMA every could. try them if you want, but bear in mind no one really has any idea what they can do to you in the long run.

agreed mate

i done bare meph/lone this summer

theres somethin about them thats just... fuckin sketch

[Buzz]

RC's arnt all bad, just look at the 2c's, their my new best friends.

[Iacchus]

tried 2CT21 on friday

pretty interesting.. no body load at all which was nice

did some acid ontop to spice it up a few hours later ;)

[p0ly]

tried 2CT21 on friday

pretty interesting.. no body load at all which was nice

did some acid ontop to spice it up a few hours later ;)

but t-2 still your favourite?

[Iacchus]

hmm t2 more rewarding but more 'effort' so depends really

[Buzz]

t2 gives me nausea :/

[Iacchus]

t2 gives me nausea :/

you can buy anti nausea medication over the counter from any pharmacist

MOTILIUM tablets (http://home.intekom.com/pharm/janssen/motilium.html)

I never do a 2c without popping one of these guys first :)

[dynamickid]

^^^That's not cool. The whole part of the experience is in the body load!

[Iacchus]

you want to feel nausia and body discomfort?

[Buzz]

id rather just do t7 tbh.

looking forward to trying some 2c-e and 2c-i mixed :D read some trip reports and it sounds pretty intense raaaraaa