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Offyahead
06-10-2009, 12:32 PM
Just wondering about what drugs you wouldnt take and the reasons why you wouldnt take them.

p0ly
06-10-2009, 12:35 PM
jenkem!! lol

1984
06-10-2009, 12:36 PM
expensive ones that I would have to pay for

p0ly
06-10-2009, 12:36 PM
inhalants as they are the most damaging pile of crap ever (apart from nitrous and i may try ether once if the oppurtunity was there)

p0ly
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
i'd like to think i'd never touch heroin!! don't think i ever would but i did glady take a couple of free morphine pills earlier and last night

p0ly
06-10-2009, 12:39 PM
DATURA!! YUCKKKK, THAT STUFF SOUNDS HORRIBLY INTENSE...

Offyahead
06-10-2009, 12:39 PM
i dont think id ever touch crack, heroin or laughing gas (Thats some scary shit when you see people on that)

p0ly
06-10-2009, 12:44 PM
scary seeing people on NOS? wow..... maybe if you've seen people go over the top and KO/fit

DaftFader
06-10-2009, 12:50 PM
DATURA!! YUCKKKK, THAT STUFF SOUNDS HORRIBLY INTENSE...
my mate tried this without reading trip reports .. big mistake .. and it's lucky he not dead .... disapeared into a his own world for a few days (he kept topping up) and at one point thinks he drank bleach he was so spangled ... he's lucky he's not dead tbh ..... then he read the trip reports and most of the people that have tried it ended up in hospital for some reason or another ... f'in nasty shit .. i allways warn people about how dangerous this is when i hear it's name...

Offyahead
06-10-2009, 12:50 PM
Saw one guy sucking it in from the balloon and just started rolling on the floor all over just absolutely laughing his head off for no reason for about 10 mins none stop SCARY SHIT...

olboy
06-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Saw one guy sucking it in from the balloon and just started rolling on the floor all over just absolutely laughing his head off for no reason for about 10 mins none stop SCARY SHIT...

Hmmm, I've heard of worse drug effects than just laughing... I do that on mushrooms, well, for the first 20 minutes after I feel the effects... I must look a right twat, :you_crazy and it really did used to make my stomach muscles ache because of all the laughter. But I suppose at least mushies are FREE. Hmm, but NOX doesn't make me feel like I've pissed my pants...

...it's a trade off I guess, lol

1984
06-10-2009, 01:00 PM
Saw one guy sucking it in from the balloon and just started rolling on the floor all over just absolutely laughing his head off for no reason for about 10 mins none stop SCARY SHIT...

nos lasts 60seconds tops, probably just attention seeking haha

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 01:40 PM
I would never try PCP. Fuck that.

Iacchus
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
hmm id probably try anything once apart from solvents

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Crack, heroin, Meth, PCP, These drugs are fucking rank and (can) destroy peoples lives. Have seen it happen so would never go there.

p0ly
06-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Saw one guy sucking it in from the balloon and just started rolling on the floor all over just absolutely laughing his head off for no reason for about 10 mins none stop SCARY SHIT...

yeah that just sounds ridiculous, 10mins......

barnzy001
06-10-2009, 03:06 PM
wouldnt try crack or heroin not that im not interested to see what the buzz is like but because i have a very addictive personality

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 03:09 PM
I wouldn't mind giving Heroin a blast. Just have a little smoke.

Buzz
06-10-2009, 03:17 PM
crack, heroine, crystal meth, solvents raaa

p0ly
06-10-2009, 03:35 PM
mtpt!

Dom_sufc
06-10-2009, 03:43 PM
Crack, heroin, Meth, PCP, These drugs are fucking rank and (can) destroy peoples lives. Have seen it happen so would never go there.

To be fair though, Crack is one i've had from that list and it's not that bad at all. You don't have one go on it and then fall down the slippery slope.

In my opinion, these drugs destroy people's lives, but not directly, the user has to have issues beofrehand and take the drug enough to become addicted. Maybe not in all cases, maybe some people are naive and just hammer it like other drugs. But say people like you and me who have fairly happy lives and don't want to self-destruct. I know that feeling and you do want to fuck up, which is why I think people sometimes turn to things like this. There's other ways to express that feeling aswell which are just as life fucking. Making people deliberately fall out with you and detach themselves from you etc.

I would try smack aswell, for the same reasons. To me it would be something different. I would draw the line at pinning up though, same goes with anything.

I'm interested to hear from any ex-addicts/addicts, to see how right or wrong I am here. It's just my own theory based on my own experience.

As for PCP and meth... 2 minds about these. Being that buzzed up doesn't appeal too much to me. And also on PCP, I have read it can produce very unpredictable, and violent results. So for the sake of other people, I wouldn't fancy. Don't like not being in control too much.

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 03:45 PM
I would probably try any drug that is not scary and too much ie PCP. I would like to try crack and Herion, and I can imagine that it is just bullshit that if you have it once then that is it, junkie. I wan't to try an opitated buzz before I die anyway.

Buzz
06-10-2009, 03:47 PM
yeah but do you think people that end up addicted think "yeah im gonna become a junkie" when they first try it?

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 03:52 PM
Of course I don't,I know that nobody wants to be an addict. I probably will not try Heroin for this reason though. Crack and Herion do not seem a huge deal when they are first taken, they only become a huge deal when people get addicted to them. For example I know some people who smoke crack now and again, and have been doing so for years at there own wanting, not the drugs.

p0ly
06-10-2009, 03:56 PM
i'd do pcp, meth, crack. they don't really scare me as there are worst case senarios for every drug and if you are stupid enough to fall for the scare stories then it's a shame.

you heard the fucking shit people do on lsd and shrooms? not fucking pretty shit, it's the same fucking thing.

Dom_sufc
06-10-2009, 03:58 PM
yeah but do you think people that end up addicted think "yeah im gonna become a junkie" when they first try it?

No. I'd say they rather think "I don't give a fuck", without thinking too much about becoming addicted at all. Like I say, this is only guesses on my part.

I suppose some people just like things too much. All characteristics work on a spectrum after all. I think I've got an addictive personality, but just not enough to go down those roads. So there must be some people who would.

Crack was a bit shit anyway. No where near the hype. Probably not banging anyway because we made it ourselves. Still, was over very quickly and we went through a gram (of coke we used) in about half an hour taking it in turns using the can. Barely said a word to each other. Woooo :/

If we'd had used that gram and sat round for a few hours sniffing it, it would have been more fun. Get some conversation and laughs in there. Crack seems like quite a solo thing. You only really buzz while you're on the can, and maybe a minute after.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 03:59 PM
To be fair though, Crack is one i've had from that list and it's not that bad at all. You don't have one go on it and then fall down the slippery slope.


Still though i wouldn't ever try it. It and always will be a dirty drug to me.

Have seen some utterly brilliant people turn into complete and utter scum bags from smoking that shit (brown as well).

Although that is my opinion. I know a couple people that are actually pretty sound with it.

p0ly
06-10-2009, 04:00 PM
i know quite a few people who've done crack and it really has been hyped up alot (they said it isn't that amazing), i know people who are FULLY on the powder cocaine x 50 than the people who do crack

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 04:01 PM
How is crack dirty to coke or any other drugs apart from the obvious. People would happily sit there and sniff anything up there nose, all kinds of chemicals, where as crack is in its purest form smoked.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Another drug i would never take again is Viagra. Swallowed one and it got caught in my throat. Had a stiff neck all day.






























(ill get me coat)

Dom_sufc
06-10-2009, 04:06 PM
i know quite a few people who've done crack and it really has been hyped up alot (they said it isn't that amazing), i know people who are FULLY on the powder cocaine x 50 than the people who do crack


Yeah know what you mean. Crack isn't something you sit round with your mates doing. Not with anyone I know anyway. Coke is something pretty much everyone accepts you doing at house parties and bars etc. Like social alcoholism.

Buzz
06-10-2009, 04:09 PM
i dont know about that tbh, theres a lot of people that would kick you out their house if you started racking up lines on their living room table :laugh_at:

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Yeah depends on who you hang with. Some groups of friends would love it if I had all types of shit on me, some would hate me for it. Same with venues.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 04:22 PM
How is crack dirty to coke or any other drugs apart from the obvious. People would happily sit there and sniff anything up there nose, all kinds of chemicals, where as crack is in its purest form smoked.

I don't mean dirty in the literal sense.

TheLostOne
06-10-2009, 04:30 PM
Dirty as in Donkey Punching a sixteen year old.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 04:34 PM
Dirty as in Donkey Punching a sixteen year old.

Yeah man that is a bit dirty. haha Donkey Punching, I ain't heard that in a while.

uglyprettytrash
06-10-2009, 05:16 PM
solvents, meth, smack, crack, pcp, dmt and probably some others that don't spring to mind at this moment in time.

i just don't have any interest in trying them i suppose..

DaftFader
06-10-2009, 05:24 PM
I don't belong in this thread :laugh_at:

p0ly
06-10-2009, 05:32 PM
solvents are just plain sick!! nerve damage, what a buzz

DaftFader
06-10-2009, 06:26 PM
yeah there's things i have tryed that i would never do again ... did gas when i was in school and knew no better .. till a mate of mine died from doing it ... bit of a wake up call really

Dom_sufc
06-10-2009, 06:43 PM
yeah there's things i have tryed that i would never do again ... did gas when i was in school and knew no better .. till a mate of mine died from doing it ... bit of a wake up call really

Yeah forgot about those! Fuck that.

My nan read loads into these Anti-drug articles and programmes. I remember when I was about 15 I had a cold, and got a small rash under my nose. Obviously it just so happened that last week in the readers digest that that rash was a sign of heavy blue sniffing :D

This went on for years, and didn't help when she found an old lighter with no grindy bit on, and the petrol can in my room.

Ahhhh, nans :laugh_at:

Dom_sufc
06-10-2009, 06:45 PM
There was also the time a when in the past (PAST!) I was selling a bit of coke, and my nan went around telling other family members and her friends I was selling heroin.

Ahhh nans hehehe. Sorry to deviate. Where were we :D

Tek Offensive
06-10-2009, 06:53 PM
i wouldnt take anything poly gave me,

theres lots i say i wouldnt take. but then again i used to think id never smoke fags or do k, and theyve become daily habits

Southcaver
06-10-2009, 06:58 PM
I don't think there's a lot i wouldn't try, i've tried most things at least once and i'm working my way through the RC's.
I'm not addicted to anything or had a really bad time on anything apart from once on 2-cb but that was my own fault and i've learn't from that.
I did think about doing datura but the trips pretty long and you need a couple of sitters i reckon.

1984
06-10-2009, 07:16 PM
crack never appeals, apart from the obvious like addictive nastiness, because its so short lasting. A very expensive drug that lasts minuets (as far as I understand it), sounds rubbish.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Yeah it doesn't appeal to me either, Tbh most drugs don't really appeal to me these days. The comedowns are getting worse no matter what i do.

Could it be time to pack it all in? Or maybe just get on it more often.

Maybe i'm losing my touch.

1984
06-10-2009, 09:35 PM
Yeah it doesn't appeal to me either, Tbh most drugs don't really appeal to me these days. The comedowns are getting worse no matter what i do.

Could it be time to pack it all in? Or maybe just get on it more often.

Maybe i'm losing my touch.

perhaps a year or half a year off?

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 09:43 PM
perhaps a year or half a year off?

could be the one mate.

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 09:50 PM
Mephedrone.

The stuff is the new K. It is physically addictive and there are shit loads of horror stories coming through from other head shops.

Shooting pains across the chest
Queues for the shop to open
Heart palpatations
Cysts in peoples noses (which have required surgery)
Stomach ulcers

Anyway that is aside from the other stories you can read online. I hate the stuff and actively discourage anyone from buying anything that contains it from my shop. If it was up to me I wouldn't stock any of the products but as it's not my shop I can't do that. I think I've sold one item that contains it as not many people buy it after the length of my rant.

1984
06-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Mephedrone.



Shooting pains across the chest
Queues for the shop to open
Heart palpatations
Cysts in peoples noses (which have required surgery)
Stomach ulcers



that sounds rather worrying!

p0ly
06-10-2009, 10:04 PM
i wouldnt take anything poly gave me,

theres lots i say i wouldnt take. but then again i used to think id never smoke fags or do k, and theyve become daily habits

your loss mate :laugh_at:

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 10:05 PM
Mephedrone.

The stuff is the new K. It is physically addictive and there are shit loads of horror stories coming through from other head shops.

Shooting pains across the chest
Queues for the shop to open
Heart palpatations
Cysts in peoples noses (which have required surgery)
Stomach ulcers

Anyway that is aside from the other stories you can read online. I hate the stuff and actively discourage anyone from buying anything that contains it from my shop. If it was up to me I wouldn't stock any of the products but as it's not my shop I can't do that. I think I've sold one item that contains it as not many people buy it after the length of my rant.

What about methylone, You been hearing anything about that stuff?

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 10:27 PM
What about methylone, You been hearing anything about that stuff?


Nothing bad so far.

DJCliffy
06-10-2009, 10:30 PM
Nothing bad so far.

Cool man.

Buzz
06-10-2009, 10:41 PM
methylone it is raaaraaa

p0ly
06-10-2009, 10:44 PM
it's only cos u cannot redose as much on methylone! if people didn't get stupid and greedy they wouldn't have all these health problems

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 11:13 PM
it's only cos u cannot redose as much on methylone! if people didn't get stupid and greedy they wouldn't have all these health problems


That's exactly what all the K-heads said 6 years ago. Now they need reconstructive surgery on their bladders and replacement kidneys.

Physically addictive substances are just that, physically addictive. 4-MMC is physically addictive, it's the beta-ketone analogue of 4- methyl methampphetamine.

A drug with some wonderful side effects


It has noticeable after-effects that turn into long lasting insomnia of a very specific kind, mood disturbances, disturbances of memory and cognition upon repeated dosing, pointing at serotonin depletion and possibly marked neurotoxicity. They can include a depression so black, that only heavy cocaine use comes to mind to compare it with.

And yes, the 5-HT2B. Long term use of such a drug may probably result in cardiac muscle damage or other cardiac diseases nobody would be happy to encounter.

Anyway I have no reason to bash meph I work in a shop that would sell it if it wasn't so fucking bad for people. We could make a killing really easily (a key is only about $3000) but it's fucking dangerous and people need to realise that just because it is fun and legal they can't just cain it.

DaftFader
06-10-2009, 11:31 PM
ahh i knew it had some corilation to methampphetamine .. i was saing this to a mate of mine .. and i think i was talknig to cliff about it as well ..

Buzz
06-10-2009, 11:37 PM
well tbh im only using mephe cos theres no decent pills/mandy doing the rounds atm :o/

CozMik
06-10-2009, 11:43 PM
http://www.ownlabelproduct.co.uk/nat-lax_TNT.jpg

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 11:45 PM
ahh i knew it had some corilation to methampphetamine .. i was saing this to a mate of mine .. and i think i was talknig to cliff about it as well ..

Nah methacathinone is the beta ketone of methamphetamine.

4-MMC is the BK of 4 methyl-methamphetamine


Chemically close but not quite the same.

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 11:47 PM
well tbh im only using mephe cos theres no decent pills/mandy doing the rounds atm :o/

There are other options though. I'm not saying they are all bad just mephedrone.

CozMik
06-10-2009, 11:50 PM
desoxypipradrol

elretardo87
06-10-2009, 11:59 PM
desoxypipradrol


That shit is grim. We bought some online like 3 years ago.

The drug part lasts like 3 hours but the awake part lasts for days.

Buzz
07-10-2009, 01:49 PM
high for 3 hours, and awake for days doesn't sound good :o/

Offyahead
07-10-2009, 01:57 PM
Never new all that shit bowt it :S

i fucking love the stuff never knew it was phisically addictive either, been having it every friday/sat for the last 3 months and im only 16, might start calming down on it.

my friends started having it on weekdays aswell as the weekend.

i love it but, kinda wish i never took the stuff.

p0ly
07-10-2009, 02:26 PM
every friday and sat for the last 3 months, you are gonna be burnt out in no time mate.

Offyahead
07-10-2009, 02:36 PM
What you mean by burnt out in no time?

Offyahead
07-10-2009, 02:38 PM
My tolerance has increased loads on it too, half a g used to put me off my head nah it wouldnt touch the sides i do about 1g in on a friday.

mishap
07-10-2009, 04:37 PM
i wouldnt take rohypnol if offered to me by a 40 yr old white bloke,
anything else is fair game(cept heroin/crack/etc)

CozMik
07-10-2009, 05:02 PM
What you mean by burnt out in no time?

no serotonin left in zee brain!

Buzz
07-10-2009, 05:51 PM
I have lots of serotonin stocked up, im all good :laugh_at:

Southcaver
07-10-2009, 06:05 PM
Cheers for the facts on methedrone elretardo, think i'll be staying clear:wink:

TheLostOne
07-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Man, what is mephedrone some killer drug now? No it's not, it is actually fun and a nice high. It is not dangerous if you do it not that often. Obviously. if you took drone twice a month max, you will be fine. It is getting a bad name because twats exist and ruin it for other people putting 50 grams up there nose a month, then going 'this mephedrone stuff ain't safe, stay away' what the fuck.

Southcaver
07-10-2009, 06:15 PM
Man, what is mephedrone some killer drug now? No it's not, it is actually fun and a nice high. It is not dangerous if you do it not that often. Obviously. if you took drone twice a month max, you will be fine. It is getting a bad name because twats exist and ruin it for other people putting 50 grams up there nose a month, then going 'this mephedrone stuff ain't safe, stay away' what the fuck.


Easy tiger, Grrrrrrr:laugh_at: