Best Documentry I Have Ever Seen.

[Dom_sufc]

Zeitgeist - The Movie

Absolutely fantastic. Covers a few areas over the most informative mind bending 2 hours you are likely to experience through a documentary. It's well made, concise and clear, and the evidence and personal accounts seem true. Often with these things Im slightly sceptical, but but there's alot of video evidence of news reports, actual press conferences ect.

Firstly covers religion in a way I never knew before. The links between most religions in the world, and as you compare they are all actually based on the same thing. It moves onto how religeon is now used as a controlling power through politicians, the moving onto who really controls the world. It also covers 9/11, and how international banks play a massive part in everything.

I used to enjoy the NWO stlye theories, but to be honest, the explanation giving in this doc is much more realistic and I have never been so shocked really.

If you have ever been interested in life, watch this.

I do often tend to get too excited about these things, but like I say, the evidence given is far too plentiful and credible for it to be bollocks.

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Zeitgeist, The Movie - Remastered / Final Edition (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197)

[joshd96320]

i saw this about a year or so back its absolutely excellent watched it a few times now

[Dom_sufc]

i saw this about a year or so back its absolutely excellent watched it a few times now

I can definitely see myself watching it a few more times too!

I wish I could remember more of the information to pass on to people so I can explain it to them a bit more easily. It's hard sometimes to get your mates to sit down and watch a 2 hour doc.

[p0ly]

someone i really like watched this and got really paranoid that jews would take over the world n shit, not nice

i read this review and wonder what you think of it?


'Zeitgeist is poorly researched and/or purposely deceitful.

I say this as someone who questions the idea of a historical Jesus.

Oh, also, the 9/11 bull in part two, and world domination conspiracy in part three just kinda shows that they're...not quite...sensible.

I mean, for a movie that's supposed to be about questioning what's presented to you, QUESTION WHAT THE MOVIE PRESENTS TO YOU. To me, it's the ultimate irony that people are accepting what this movie says, as if it's true, without doing any research.'

[Holeydel]

Some of us were chinwagging about this doc on one of the threads on here. I was a bit sceptical before watching it, though afterwards my brain was asking so many questions I didn't know what to think. I had to go get a paracetamol.

It's a great doc and like the others I recommend it to anyone who hasn't had a butchers at it yet.

[p0ly]

i havent watched this film yet but i will, i just really hate this kind of stuff these days










'"They" are not out to exploit you for money---THEY are. THEY, as in the filmmakers.


Why do conspiracy theories consistently exist and consistently spread among the uneducated and educated alike?

Because there's money to be made among propogating them. Websites get hits from people reading their crap. And filmmakers make money by making films like these. Even if you can view a film like this online for free, they still released it on DVD and people still bought it.



And here's another thing you should ask yourself: What next?

What are we supposed to do with this "groundbreaking" and "mindblowing" information gained from this film? What do you think they expect from you now that you "know better" and are "on to" the government and the bankers and all the Illuminati Jews Skull and Bones Freemasons conspiracy secret society groups? Are you supposed to rise up in rebellion and wage a civil war? Are you supposed to sit and smile at the government, and simply refuse to pay taxes?


The real answer: You're supposed to tell more people about it, and get them to buy more of their stuff.'

[Dom_sufc]

someone i really like watched this and got really paranoid that jews would take over the world n shit, not nice

i read this review and wonder what you think of it?


'Zeitgeist is poorly researched and/or purposely deceitful.

I say this as someone who questions the idea of a historical Jesus.

Oh, also, the 9/11 bull in part two, and world domination conspiracy in part three just kinda shows that they're...not quite...sensible.

I mean, for a movie that's supposed to be about questioning what's presented to you, QUESTION WHAT THE MOVIE PRESENTS TO YOU. To me, it's the ultimate irony that people are accepting what this movie says, as if it's true, without doing any research.'

Firstly, what does it mean by a historical Jesus?

Secondly, some of the questions asked about 9/11 have interesting answers. For example, the fact surrounding the main Twin Towers about how the structure of the building works. It's a steel core of 47 massive beams in a rectangle shape. Each beam needing such a huge amount of heat to melt as they did. Something that cannot be created by burning jet fuel or anything like that. Not to mention the way the building collapsed, it fell too fast experts say and ran simulations. To create this speed you would need to pre-detonate the floors in a time sequence as it falls, exactly like in a planned demolition. Also, in a planned demolition, you need to cut the beams at an angle, and fit the explosive in there to put gravity on it's side, like a tree. At the bottom of the tower, these clean slices are pictured at the bottom. Something a falling building wouldn't cause.

Oh I could go on forever, just watch it! :)

[joshd96320]

to be honest i do question everything and i question the authenticity of the documentary

i still find the questions it raises interesting

[Dom_sufc]

Firstly, what does it mean by a historical Jesus?

Secondly, some of the questions asked about 9/11 have interesting answers. For example, the fact surrounding the main Twin Towers about how the structure of the building works. It's a steel core of 47 massive beams in a rectangle shape. Each beam needing such a huge amount of heat to melt as they did. Something that cannot be created by burning jet fuel or anything like that. Not to mention the way the building collapsed, it fell too fast experts say and ran simulations. To create this speed you would need to pre-detonate the floors in a time sequence as it falls, exactly like in a planned demolition. Also, in a planned demolition, you need to cut the beams at an angle, and fit the explosive in there to put gravity on it's side, like a tree. At the bottom of the tower, these clean slices are pictured at the bottom. Something a falling building wouldn't cause.

Oh I could go on forever, just watch it! :)

Found the image. Sorry for the long paragraph, I don't have time to sort and I was just adding to it as I rememberd.

This is at the bottom of the building. Also note the molten metal black bit. The same effect after a planned demolition using Thermite. How does a falling building create a clean slice and suddenly burn at an angle at the lowest part? Surely it was have been bent and squashed.

http://www.xpose911.com/assets/images/thermiteonwtccolumns_small.jpg

[p0ly]

i have shown this video on another thread

YouTube - Twin Towers Collapse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho6DCYggFKo&feature=channel_page)

but to me i can clearly see the metal bend and cave in, either conspiracy theorists are blind/do not want to know or i have got it really wrong

i cannot see no 'demolition' in the fuckin slightest!!!

[Dom_sufc]

i have shown this video on another thread

YouTube - Twin Towers Collapse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho6DCYggFKo&feature=channel_page)

but to me i can clearly see the metal bend and cave in, either conspiracy theorists are blind/do not want to know or i have got it really wrong

i cannot see no 'demolition' in the fuckin slightest!!!

Instead of debating over a documentary you haven't seen, why don't you watch it and I will happily debate with you.

[p0ly]

but i do not need to see the film to know that that video clearly debunks the whole 'the metal couldn't possibly bend lie'

what do you think about it?

[Dom_sufc]

but i do not need to see the film to know that that video clearly debunks the whole 'the metal couldn't possibly bend lie'

what do you think about it?

The main metal structure is in the middle for a start.

That video doesn't show anything.

[Dom_sufc]

How about the WTC7 that collapsed and didn't even get hit by a plane. Didn't even look damaged, had a few fires in it. Steel buildings don't collapse by normal fire.

6 mins worth

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4556787288866368337

[p0ly]

i have very little time for super paranoid fiction these days, a few years back i used to think wow conspiracy theories are interesting and did alot of research for and against but i just find them pretty ridiculous these days to be honest.

that video doesnt show anything at all? if you say so mate

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - World Trade Center 7, Building 7 (http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm)

why don't you look at both sides of the arguement? not just some controversial money making film.

i doooo not believe in jews taking over the worrrld or the american government getting muslim people to commit suicide into buildings!!!

I'll watch it soon but i do not think i'm gonna like it from what i have read, sounds controversial but pretty funny

[Dom_sufc]

i have very little time for super paranoid fiction these days, a few years back i used to think wow conspiracy theories are interesting and did alot of research for and against but i just find them pretty ridiculous these days to be honest.

that video doesnt show anything at all? if you say so mate

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - World Trade Center 7, Building 7 (http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm)

why don't you look at both sides of the arguement? not just some controversial money making film.

i doooo not believe in jews taking over the worrrld or the American government getting Muslim people to commit suicide into buildings!!!

I'll watch it soon but i do not think i'm gonna like it from what i have read, sounds controversial but pretty funny

I could say most of things to you too. I do look at both sides of the argument, and you seem to be assuming what the film is about. Is it not just as absurd to read someone's reviews about it on the net and decide you believe this more and believe this is some paranoid fiction?

Why not watch it and make your own opinion. You are following up what I have written with things that have been tackled in the film. Which Is why i said watch it, then come back and debate.

There are 2 sides to these types of things. The "normal" people who think the other side is a bunch of paranoid idiots and the other side who think the normal people aren't opening their minds. I prefer to sit in the middle. At the minute you appear to be the first. Automatically branding this doc as some conspiracy money making film. Watch it before you make an opinion

[p0ly]

but you do not just need to watch this film to know about 9/11..!!??

it only came out two years ago...

[JonnyQuest]

alright dom? hows it goin?

[p0ly]

'What I hate most about conspiracy theories today and also those who tell conspiracies, is how they create disclaimers of sorts, because they know what they are saying is easily proven incorrect. For example, Zeitgeist, the movie's web site essentially says that the movie is not supposed to be the truth, but rather help people look for the truth. It is a ridiculous disclaimer in order to tell others that "if I'm wrong, I already knew it; it wasn't meant to be true, just to help you keep an open mind." '


LOL!

[Holeydel]

but you do not just need to watch this film to know about 9/11..!!??

But you do Poly, it just so happens the film you watched and decided to follow wasn't called Zeitgeist.

[Holeydel]

For example, Zeitgeist, the movie's web site essentially says that the movie is not supposed to be the truth, but rather help people look for the truth. It is a ridiculous disclaimer in order to tell others that "if I'm wrong, I already knew it; it wasn't meant to be true, just to help you keep an open mind." '


LOL!

This isn't a disclaimer. It's explaining the movie isn't about being able to answer the questions or bring forward 'the truth', it's about presenting enough evidence to be able to ask the questions that conflicts with the stories we are led to believe is true.

The most effective way to reach out to people is by film and television, so it's not neccessarily a money making machine. And if it is, then shit - I'd rather go make this film money then kick back and watch Disney's Cinderella.

[p0ly]

but there have been many many debunks of 9/11 which i have read before and honestly do believe

even south park says if u believe in 9/11 conspiracy you are a retard (that isnt a debunk but it is funny)

[Holeydel]

but there have been many many debunks of 9/11 which i have read before and honestly do believe

even south park says if u believe in 9/11 conspiracy you are a retard (that isnt a debunk but it is funny)

Then it's obvious ain't it - Cartman and the rest of the South Park gang are behind 9/11

[joshd96320]

Then it's obvious ain't it - Cartman and the rest of the South Park gang are behind 9/11

:laugh_at:

[p0ly]

Then it's obvious ain't it - Cartman and the rest of the South Park gang are behind 9/11


butters must of been the leader!

[benbear]

Watched this yesterday

It's a dark tale so be warned.

north korea - Google Videos (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=north+korea&emb=0&aq=1&oq=north+#)

[p0ly]

is it factual?

[Dom_sufc]

is it factual?

Is there such a thing?

I think the massive question in life is how much "faith" you are going to put into other people. Afterall, anything you have seen or experienced yourself is open to misinterpretation, heresay, chinese whispers, lies ect ect. Everyone goes on about "Nah, don't be daft it's this", or "But didn't you read that"... Whereas noone knows fuck all either way.

Buuuut, it would be a sad life if we couldn't make a an opinion even still but I suppose we'd all be daft and hypocritical if we put too much passion into these opinions.

Course there is exceptions where things are obvious, but for the rest of things...

[p0ly]

Is there such a thing?



of course! :love:

[ketordeath]

I agree with Dom, basically he is asking the philosophical question is there is an 'objective' reality that we all experience ( a strain of thought associated with behaviouralism) or do we all see the world through our own lens view, i.e. are our views socially constructed (social constructivism) ...

...personally i am on the social constructivism side of the argument......

......sorry to sound like a twat, but doing a political science degree and i guess some of it must be sticking cos i am starting to relay my course to arguments i see in the media/forums and even pissed up arguments with mates.........

.....fuck i think i need to get a new hobby.......