Blue Screen of Death

[DIONYSUS]

right looks like my computer is proper fucked. :(
When i turn it on it goes to this message that says stop then has a long list of numbers after. you reckon its about time i took it to someone to get fixed or can i do it myself?
thanks

[p0ly]

maybe its the matrix speaking to you

[DIONYSUS]

maybe its the matrix speaking to you

that was my first thought.

[joshd96320]

r u on vista?

[DIONYSUS]

r u on vista?

yes. :(

[photographthesun]

If you can post the message i might be able to help, do you know if its the BIOS or windows?

[DIONYSUS]

If you can post the message i might be able to help, do you know if its the BIOS or windows?

ill have a look tonight and right it down for you. its well long. Whats BIOS? i know next to nothing about computers...

[photographthesun]

If the message comes up before windows starts to load its probably the BIOS, Basic Input/Output System.

If theres lines and lines of code or numbers dont bother with that just the english and short codes. Try searchin in google etc, and if you have made any recent changes to the system its probably related to that. Unfortunatly I know sod all about vista (other than its bollox and i cant wait to format and install XP).

[DaftFader]

does it beep when it blue screens? .. if so .. how many times?

[elretardo87]

If you can post the message i might be able to help, do you know if its the BIOS or windows?


BSOD is a windows fault not the BIOS.

[joshd96320]

yes. :(

good.... so am i, it always fucks over into a BSOD if i install updates.

u got a vista disk? u might need 2 reinstall vista

[DaftFader]

windows 7 ftw .. shame it's only in beta and nothing works easily on it .. but when it comes out .. it's gonna kick the shit out of vista

[DJCliffy]

I've heard nothing but bad things about Vista. :/

[DaftFader]

you just have to know how to turn all the crap you don't need off .. and after getting all vista compatable stuff .. it's not too bad .. just alot of stuff that isn't "vista compatable" works doesn't properly with it. win 7 if very compatable .. and has alot of cool things ... just bit sketchy atm cos it's noly beta

[photographthesun]

BSOD is a windows fault not the BIOS.

I wasnt even aware the traditional BSOD even exsisted anymore, Iv not seen it since 98 myself.

[elretardo87]

I've heard nothing but bad things about Vista. :/


That will be mostly from people trying to run the 32 bit version. The 64bit version is pretty damn stable and you no longer care that it needs 2 gigs of RAM if you can stick 16 gigs in the machine.

[photographthesun]

That will be mostly from people trying to run the 32 bit version. The 64bit version is pretty damn stable and you no longer care that it needs 2 gigs of RAM if you can stick 16 gigs in the machine.

Its far from just a stability issue

Criticism of Windows Vista - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista)

[DIONYSUS]

If the message comes up before windows starts to load its probably the BIOS, Basic Input/Output System.

If theres lines and lines of code or numbers dont bother with that just the english and short codes. Try searchin in google etc, and if you have made any recent changes to the system its probably related to that. Unfortunatly I know sod all about vista (other than its bollox and i cant wait to format and install XP).

forgot to have a look didnt i, rubbish. :(
Its happened since i moved house, so not sure if ive knocked something inside it loose.
It doesnt beep either as far as i could hear...

[Dom_sufc]

forgot to have a look didnt i, rubbish. :(
Its happened since i moved house, so not sure if ive knocked something inside it loose.
It doesnt beep either as far as i could hear...

These are usually logged in the Event Viewer. Just press start and type it in the search.

In the middle, look for "Summary of Admin Events", look for one under crtitical. Click and and the event should come up. Make note of the the Event ID. Then post it here. Also if you double click that entry loads of jargen will pop up, look for the error code "0x0000398548" or something like that. Post them all!

As for the beeps Daft, wouldn't they only do that if there was a Hardware failure preventing boot?

Oh another thing. If it happens again, reapeat the above, just to make sure it's the same thing. Also make a note of what you were doing on the computer. For example, loading a big application, playing a game ect. Could even be something more subtle.

[Dom_sufc]

As for that article Photographthesun, how much of that is up to date? I have barely any issues with Vista. Well, about the same I do with XP. Im running 32bit too. Wish I could run 64bit but my network card drivers don't support it!

I think people are too quick to slate Vista without even using it. I was one of them. I switched to vista, then back to XP after about 6 months. A month later Vista again. The filing system is so much more responsive and the live search in the start menu is brilliant. Not to mention Aero looks fantastic too.

That's to name a few, there are plenty more pros. I play games alot and they work fine. I'll bet most people that complain have old systems that struggle to run a bulkier OS. But considering hardware is cheaper for the same bang as a few years ago, it's not exactly a con. I use alot of software and everything I use works perfectly on Vista, no compatibility issues as of yet, i doubt there will be. Vista is mainstream now, so there shouldn't be anyone designing anything without Vista compatibility.

Only bad thing I have noticed is the slow boot up time, however my system is on 24/7 anyway so makes no difference to me. Even if I didn't it'd be a small thorn.

[DIONYSUS]

These are usually logged in the Event Viewer. Just press start and type it in the search

windows doesnt even start up. computer goes to the blue screen and error probably about 10seconds after turning it on... ill post the error up here tomo. :(

[Dom_sufc]

windows doesnt even start up. computer goes to the blue screen and error probably about 10seconds after turning it on... ill post the error up here tomo. :(

Oops I can't read, sorry.

[DaftFader]

As for the beeps Daft, wouldn't they only do that if there was a Hardware failure preventing boot?
yeah was just ruling that out ... don't think you get blue screen with that tho

[DaftFader]

try pushing all your compnents back into the mother board to make sure they are plugged in propperly

[DIONYSUS]

try pushing all your compnents back into the mother board to make sure they are plugged in propperly

ill give that ago tonight.. fingers crossed.

[swish]

This could be because of two major reasons, either there is a fault with your m/board, ram or your windows installation has got some virus in it. The best way to deal with it is -- keep pressing f8 when you switch the system on, a screen with some option will appear. Now select "Last known configuration that worked" from the menu using the arrow keys. Now restart. If there was a problem with your windows, it should go now. If it is a hardware error (less likely though) ... you will have to go through the hit and trial method to figure out what is wrong.

[DIONYSUS]

This could be because of two major reasons, either there is a fault with your m/board, ram or your windows installation has got some virus in it. The best way to deal with it is -- keep pressing f8 when you switch the system on, a screen with some option will appear. Now select "Last known configuration that worked" from the menu using the arrow keys. Now restart. If there was a problem with your windows, it should go now. If it is a hardware error (less likely though) ... you will have to go through the hit and trial method to figure out what is wrong.

nice one, cheers for that and welcome to PV! :love:

[photographthesun]

As for that article Photographthesun, how much of that is up to date? I have barely any issues with Vista. Well, about the same I do with XP. Im running 32bit too. Wish I could run 64bit but my network card drivers don't support it!

I think people are too quick to slate Vista without even using it. I was one of them. I switched to vista, then back to XP after about 6 months. A month later Vista again. The filing system is so much more responsive and the live search in the start menu is brilliant. Not to mention Aero looks fantastic too.

That's to name a few, there are plenty more pros. I play games alot and they work fine. I'll bet most people that complain have old systems that struggle to run a bulkier OS. But considering hardware is cheaper for the same bang as a few years ago, it's not exactly a con. I use alot of software and everything I use works perfectly on Vista, no compatibility issues as of yet, i doubt there will be. Vista is mainstream now, so there shouldn't be anyone designing anything without Vista compatibility.

Only bad thing I have noticed is the slow boot up time, however my system is on 24/7 anyway so makes no difference to me. Even if I didn't it'd be a small thorn.

The point with vista really is what is the advantage to upgradeing? becuase its not cheap, and this contuined upgrade spiral is a rather good way to make money. Theres lots of reasons not too upgrade as mentiond in the site, but as you say, vista will work. Theres no major problems bug wise as far as im aware (althoug from personal experance there are lots of little issues). I guess it looks a bit nicer. *shrugs* for me its the old if it aint broke dont fix it, plus more bugs, plus less supportd products, plus it will just slow down your system in a number of ways. Ugh god I dont care achally. Wheres the whiskey..

[DIONYSUS]

forgot again. im rubbish. :(

[Dom_sufc]

The point with vista really is what is the advantage to upgradeing? becuase its not cheap, and this contuined upgrade spiral is a rather good way to make money. Theres lots of reasons not too upgrade as mentiond in the site, but as you say, vista will work. Theres no major problems bug wise as far as im aware (althoug from personal experance there are lots of little issues). I guess it looks a bit nicer. *shrugs* for me its the old if it aint broke dont fix it, plus more bugs, plus less supportd products, plus it will just slow down your system in a number of ways. Ugh god I dont care achally. Wheres the whiskey..

Firstly I have never paid for a piece of software, so I never factored in cost hehe.

Secondly, as for the compatibility, is on par with XP. Anyone having issues is probably using some old obscure program which isn't updated anymore meaning there is probably something out there to surpass whatever it is it was meant to do.

Thirdly, and to reiterate an earlier point, the "slow down" by Vista is relative when you compare to XP really. What XP needs to run smooth cost, say, X amount 4 years ago. That same smoothness can be achieved for the same price on Vista, however that will be equal to a few more gig of RAM ect.

Still, for a basic user, XP is fine really. Like cars, some people don't drive enough to give a fuck about what they are driving, so same applies to computers, which is fine :)

[photographthesun]

Firstly I have never paid for a piece of software, so I never factored in cost hehe.

Secondly, as for the compatibility, is on par with XP. Anyone having issues is probably using some old obscure program which isn't updated anymore meaning there is probably something out there to surpass whatever it is it was meant to do.

Thirdly, and to reiterate an earlier point, the "slow down" by Vista is relative when you compare to XP really. What XP needs to run smooth cost, say, X amount 4 years ago. That same smoothness can be achieved for the same price on Vista, however that will be equal to a few more gig of RAM ect.

Still, for a basic user, XP is fine really. Like cars, some people don't drive enough to give a fuck about what they are driving, so same applies to computers, which is fine :)

Its not on a par with XP I can think of several programs that dont run properly under vista. And yes you can upgrade so vista will run better, but why would you want to do that when XP worked fine and vista has few (if any) possitives? *shrugs* I just think being pushed to change something that was working fine, and then having to buy more hardware to get the same performance just isnt worth it unless there are significant advantages or your well into your PC's.

I got some whiskey :) nice

[Tank Girl]

cant be bothered to read this all

my dad had this once my mate Ol fixed it (computer wizard) and he has it back again - I told him to stop looking at dodgy porn, he said errr.... yeh I guess :yakk: yuck coz its me dad.........

[p0ly]

stop looking at dodgy porn!!!!! HAHAHAH

[photographthesun]

cant be bothered to read this all

my dad had this once my mate Ol fixed it (computer wizard) and he has it back again - I told him to stop looking at dodgy porn, he said errr.... yeh I guess :yakk: yuck coz its me dad.........

being sumwhat dislexic i read that as doggy porn. *shudders*

[Tank Girl]

being sumwhat dislexic i read that as doggy porn. *shudders*
:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

[p0ly]

doggy porn, oh my!!!!!!!

[elretardo87]

Its not on a par with XP I can think of several programs that dont run properly under vista. And yes you can upgrade so vista will run better, but why would you want to do that when XP worked fine and vista has few (if any) possitives? *shrugs* I just think being pushed to change something that was working fine, and then having to buy more hardware to get the same performance just isnt worth it unless there are significant advantages or your well into your PC's.

I got some whiskey :) nice

Fuck XP or Vista.

Windows 7 is where it's at. Just installed the RC and it is slick as shit. Looks good, boots quickly and uses the same amount of resources as XP.

[photographthesun]

Fuck XP or Vista.

Windows 7 is where it's at. Just installed the RC and it is slick as shit. Looks good, boots quickly and uses the same amount of resources as XP.

and with all its security flaws hackers will love you mmmmmmmmmmmm :p

[DaftFader]

Fuck XP or Vista.

Windows 7 is where it's at. Just installed the RC and it is slick as shit. Looks good, boots quickly and uses the same amount of resources as XP.
ditto .. i love it




also photographthesun ... you get FULL kaspersky antivirus free to use whilst you have windows 7 beta + the entire windows defender and firewall from vista ... so tbh there's not many secruity flaws at all .. you need to research what you are sing b4 you say it as you make points that are in acurate

[Tank Girl]

I have a new puter, with vista - is it shit then?

[photographthesun]

ditto .. i love it




also photographthesun ... you get FULL kaspersky antivirus free to use whilst you have windows 7 beta + the entire windows defender and firewall from vista ... so tbh there's not many secruity flaws at all .. you need to research what you are sing b4 you say it as you make points that are in acurate

Service pack 1 and 2 are a common feature of windows because hackers discover security flaws over time, bugs are found etc. In fact even with XP if you dont enable updates you system will be open to attack as they are STILL finding security problems. They are nothing to do with virus's or windows defender and software firewalls are very basic indeed. Windows has and always will have the problem of being attacked by large numbers of people. Using beta software is risky because by its very nature its still in its testing phase. Im really not making it up but theres plenty of info online about such things.

[photographthesun]

ps not that im saying its not save to use or anything, just worth being careful thats all, and I was only being light hearted anyway. *shoots self*

[photographthesun]

I have a new puter, with vista - is it shit then?

its swings and roundabouts, but unless your really into your computers I dout it will make much difference and It does look prittyer. Personally im downgrading I think or getting rid of windows all2gether.

[Tank Girl]

its swings and roundabouts, but unless your really into your computers I dout it will make much difference and It does look prittyer. Personally im downgrading I think or getting rid of windows all2gether.
I just brought a laptop coz I had to,

my techie mate suggested the one I have -

and to be honest he got more excited about it than I did - taking the back off and going on about stuff I dont understand


all I need is partyvibe :love:, FB, ebay, gmail, somehwehre to store my photos and a few other simple stuff and if I ever need to do documents for work etc,

so guess its ok for me.......

[photographthesun]

I just brought a laptop coz I had to,

my techie mate suggested the one I have -

and to be honest he got more excited about it than I did - taking the back off and going on about stuff I dont understand


all I need is partyvibe :love:, FB, ebay, gmail, somehwehre to store my photos and a few other simple stuff and if I ever need to do documents for work etc,

so guess its ok for me.......

yeah be fine :) tbh I wish id just keep my mouth shut, but I was just trying to be helpful.

[Tank Girl]

:group_hug no worries - I'm not joking that I had to get a techie mate to help me decied - I'm a girl and kept saying oh that ones pretty :laugh_at:



yeah be fine :) tbh I wish id just keep my mouth shut, but I was just trying to be helpful.

[joshd96320]

and to be honest he got more excited about it than I did - taking the back off and going on about stuff I dont understand


that would be me :P

this does not appeal to the ladies ehhh

i must up my game.

to the toaster!

[DaftFader]

Service pack 1 and 2 are a common feature of windows because hackers discover security flaws over time, bugs are found etc. In fact even with XP if you dont enable updates you system will be open to attack as they are STILL finding security problems. They are nothing to do with virus's or windows defender and software firewalls are very basic indeed. Windows has and always will have the problem of being attacked by large numbers of people. Using beta software is risky because by its very nature its still in its testing phase. Im really not making it up but theres plenty of info online about such things.
well windows 7 is bassed on vista .. but just stripped down and re-built as far as i can work out so i would assume they have factored in the security bit of vista. and vista was pretty well protected

[elretardo87]

Service pack 1 and 2 are a common feature of windows because hackers discover security flaws over time, bugs are found etc. In fact even with XP if you dont enable updates you system will be open to attack as they are STILL finding security problems. They are nothing to do with virus's or windows defender and software firewalls are very basic indeed. Windows has and always will have the problem of being attacked by large numbers of people. Using beta software is risky because by its very nature its still in its testing phase. Im really not making it up but theres plenty of info online about such things.


The RC is out now, I never bothered with the betas.

its swings and roundabouts, but unless your really into your computers I dout it will make much difference and It does look prittyer. Personally im downgrading I think or getting rid of windows all2gether.

Man you might as well stick windows 98 on it if that's your attitude. XP is a decent operating system but it's outdated and while it makes sense keeping it on older machines it's a waste of time having it on newer ones.

and with all its security flaws hackers will love you mmmmmmmmmmmm :p

Vista and I would assume Windows 7 are far more secure than XP from the beginning. They have the most effective defense against root kit virus', which are the only ones that worry me, and also IE isn't built into the system files it's now an addon program with no admin control. Anyway both are safer than XP, which was famous for security flaws.

[photographthesun]

I guess its a highly debated issue, I take your points about the root kit and IE they do sound like vast improvements if there arnt new security problems created. But it will take time to find out just how secure these things are. But yeah its all good perhaps its just a matter of taste and having the chunky PC.