Hello PV People

[SweetAss]

Ez all,

been on here for a while but never properly introduced myself..... Hi, hope your all enjoying the sun.....

Whilst im at this anyone know where I could pick up a relativley small (portable) wind turbine from???

[DIONYSUS]

Ez all,

been on here for a while but never properly introduced myself..... Hi, hope your all enjoying the sun.....

Whilst im at this anyone know where I could pick up a relativley small (portable) wind turbine from???

think there pretty expensive mate, but we should be able to get some plans off of the internet and make one i reckon. :wink:

[p0ly]

yo, where abouts in bucks?

[SweetAss]

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[SweetAss]

yo, where abouts in bucks?
North Bucks, not far from the boarder with Oxfordshire mate........ you around these 'ere parts?

[p0ly]

aylesbury

[SweetAss]

aylesbury
Got quite a few mates down that way, may even be in the Harrow on Sat, come down if you fancy a beer.....:weee:

[p0ly]

got no moneyyyyyyy =((((

[Angel]

Welcome to Partyvibe SweetAss http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/RaiAngel_2007/Smilies/bummy.gif?t=1240501942

[p0ly]

Welcome to Partyvibe SweetAss http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/RaiAngel_2007/Smilies/bummy.gif?t=1240501942

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[SweetAss]

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Poly................what a cracker!!! :yakk::yakk::yakk:

[SweetAss]

Cheeky!!

[dancehard]

Welcome to PV .Have fun!

[DIONYSUS]

Welcome to Partyvibe SweetAss http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/RaiAngel_2007/Smilies/bummy.gif?t=1240501942

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[SweetAss]

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[Angel]

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[SweetAss]

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[globalloon]

Home Made Energy: Renewable Energy For The Rest Of Us (http://www.homemadeenergy.org/)

[DIONYSUS]

Home Made Energy: Renewable Energy For The Rest Of Us (http://www.homemadeenergy.org/)

nice one glo. gonna have it on that icecream bike soundsystem thing we wanna build.

[SweetAss]

Home Made Energy: Renewable Energy For The Rest Of Us (http://www.homemadeenergy.org/)
As process just stated quality!!! Got a couple of little solar panels sorted aswell............
This is gonna be sweet!!:sign0098:

[DJCliffy]

You can buy the same plans on Ebay for naff all!

[globalloon]

You can buy the same plans on Ebay for naff all!

do they include the plans to run the electricity straight into your meter at home, in layman's terms? cos that's the hard part

if so, link me up!

[DJCliffy]

do they include the plans to run the electricity straight into your meter at home, in layman's terms? cos that's the hard part

if so, link me up!

Dunno bout that pal, haven't read that much into it but heres the link anyways FREE ENERGY Solar Power,Panel Cell CD, Do it yourself on eBay, also Alternative Solar Energy, Electrical Solar, Tools Home Improvement, Home Garden (end time 10-May-09 20:39:33 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FREE-ENERGY-Solar-Power-Panel-Cell-CD-Do-it-yourself_W0QQitemZ110375553198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item110375553198&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18) :wink:

[General Lighting]

the first plan is American and would be unlikely to work on the 230V AC single phase UK power system without extensive modification. the second seems a bit fishy as its from a Yank but his picture shows what is probably an Australian setup (they still state the mains voltage as 240V)

In this country, feeding electric back into the grid needs approval from both your electric supplier and your distributor (such as Western Power Distribution, EDF or SSE) as well as a part P qualified sparky to do the work because of to the safety issues and it has to be co-ordinated with the distributor so the service fuse can be pulled to get your meter/tails/changeover kit/inverter connected safely. (this is all complicated and expensive, more so due to the bureaucracy and conflicting commercial interests at play here)

that said, if you google "home made solar panel" various genuinely free resources exist, and you could build enough kit to power maybe a laptop or PC, router and some loudspeakers from solar/non-grid power - you get "free" electric and the benefits of a UPS this way...

(these posts ought to be split into a separate thread)

[globalloon]

the first plan is American and would be unlikely to work on the 230V AC single phase UK power system

i've spoken to him and he provides kits for a number of countries, inlcudinding the UK

In this country, feeding electric back into the grid needs approval from both your electric supplier and your distributor (such as Western Power Distribution, EDF or SSE) as well as a part P qualified sparky to do the work because of to the safety issues and it has to be co-ordinated with the distributor so the service fuse can be pulled to get your meter/tails/changeover kit/inverter connected safely. (this is all complicated and expensive, more so due to the bureaucracy and conflicting commercial interests at play here)

granted the actual hook up has to be done by someone qualified, but you can save about £5000 by building the rest of the kit yourself

[General Lighting]

he is charging money for stuff you can easily find on the internet if you do a bit of googling and like any salesman the yields have been exaggerated. the sort of money outlay he mentions will get you (if you are lucky) a 150W or so panel which will charge a battery and keep small electronics going - it might power DJ processes bike sound system or some other relatively low powered equipment and I wouldn't dismiss the idea out of hand but it won't power the whole house.

this is a critical review from someone what bought the plans taken from the forums of a respected peak oil/economic crash site. even the tip on re-using damaged solar panels is mentioned for free on a variety of sites, with the caveat about water ingress (remember we are in rainy England...).

I lent mudstomper a book about "the autonomous house" which has loads of plans for wind generators in there and its dated 1972... got that for £3 from a Reading charity shop...

Pandabonium,

Your call on the referenced site is spot on. I decided to purchase the booklet to see what value was out there for the advertised price of $47.00. You get to download the authors data which is informative and generally vague enough to avoid any lawsuits but not worth the efforts you would have to invest to find out that it would not do what you expect.

As an example, the way you build a PV system for $200 is to locate damaged panels on e-bay and assemble them ona piece of plywood.

For those interested in valuable info you should follow the suggestions found in the rest of Pandaboniums' post as well as many others on this site. As was noted above, if it seems to good to be true .......go with your instincts as CM suggests.

Coop Chapter 20: What Should I Do? - homemadeenergy.org ad legit? | Forums at Chris Martenson (http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/homemadeenergyorg-ad-legit/12041)

http://digg.com/environment/Homemade_Energy_Review_Is_Homemade_Energy_Scam

here's more about the scam and how its perpetrated - the original blag with a slightly different name (earth4energy) came from Australia so at least there is a 240V version, although the Aussies again have slightly different electric kit to us)

- plus a link to more realistic info and even the actual book for free...

If you are genuinely interested in all this and can wait a few months I want to investigate solar panels for powering some telecoms kit anyway and am willing to share any findings of mine on this website and tribal living for free...

earth4energyscam scam - Open Solar (http://blog.opensolar.org/2009/02/earth4energyscam-scam.html)

Rip-off Report: Earth4Energy.com - Swerd - Earth4energy alternate energy electric solar wind generator rippoff renewable energy, greener earth, recyclable energy, reusable energy Internet (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/373/RipOff0373972.htm)

Earth4Energy is fraudulent. Earth4Energy is a SCAM. Earth4Energy is a ripoff. (http://www.nlcpr.com/Deceptions6.php)

Earth 4 Energy (http://www.scribd.com/doc/6132596/Earth-4-Energy?autodown=pdf)