View Full Version : Are you Racist? No? Care to Test That?
marcusblanc
29-11-2008, 11:05 PM
instead of all this boring crap bout K, or the people we love to hate (:wink:), why not try something genuinely challenging and thought provoking...
the Implicit Association Test (IAT) will challenge ur assumptions about how u regard different groups in society.
the most well known test is the Race IAT, but many other versions of the IAT are available on this Harvard site (eg sexuality, gender etc) simply follow the instructions on the screen...
please note this is a controversial test, so be prepared to be challenged...
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/ (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/)
see the wiki for criticisms, i've posted this cos i think its interesting, and i'd be interested to see wot u lot think...
Implicit Association Test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_Association_Test)
marcusblanc
29-11-2008, 11:39 PM
well, i got a moderate preference for white americans over african americans, on the Race IAT. And havin read a bit about his test, i think it is probly right that i am subconsciously racist towards black people. :hopeless:
But my dad is basically austrian, and my mum is irish... i am aware of the difficulties of bein of another culture, i didn't really fit in that well at school... i really should be pretty tolerant.
but we don't really control our unconscious mind, so despite my clear conscious embrace of equality for all, and my clear liberal leanings...
i failed the test! :crazy::hopeless:
anyone else, wot do u think?
Tank Girl
29-11-2008, 11:45 PM
interesting stuff,
I know I like to think I am not racist and that there is no 'subconcious' racism in me..
but I'm sure being brought up in my family -
my dad held very bizzarre racist views -
based on his upbringing and total ignorance - and I'm sure he said stuff more as he knew it wound me up (as he's a bit of a wanker now but used to be a total arsehole ) you knowthe type of - if he 'knows 'em' its alright' type shit.....:you_crazy
he has seems to have become a much nicer person in the last 10 - 15 years with all sorts of his personality / behaviour changing and growing
but I'm guessing it must have had some impact on my subconcious whether I like it or not, as I think my sister holds the sort of views he did and she reads the sun - so that says it all :laugh_at:
anyway (wrongbow rambelling) here's my results of the black / white one :
Black People-White People IAT
Your data suggests:
Little to no automatic preference between White people and Black people.
Thank you for your participation.
Most respondents find it easier to associate Black People with Bad and White People with Good compared to the reverse.
marcusblanc
29-11-2008, 11:56 PM
fuck, i got moderately subconsciously racist! :hopeless: on the Race IAT
i kinda thought i wud, as i'm readin a book where the extremely bright author 'failed', despite havin a black mother, and also lookin at the stats on the general population.
even tho my dad is austrian and my mum irish (so i know about racism), an i'm a total liberal. mayb i should have tried harder! :wink:
i would think i would have done better with asians and gays, cos i'm from leicester and i worked in the theatre for many years...
dunno if i'm gonna try any more tho... :cry:
Tank Girl
30-11-2008, 12:08 AM
well I am conciously aware I am
err... whats the word.. very judgemental towards fat people (sorry)
so I did that one next and am very surprised at my results and dont realy believe them....:hopeless:
Strong automatic preference for Fat People compared to Thin People.
marcusblanc
30-11-2008, 12:16 AM
ur a subconscious fatty lover! :yakk:
oh dear... :cry:
i said the results might be challenging, ha ha!
pork fancier! :laugh_at:
Tank Girl
30-11-2008, 12:26 AM
pork fancier! :laugh_at:
well...............
now I've stopped smoking maybe I'm swapping allegiancies in case i join em :hopeless:
marcusblanc
30-11-2008, 12:36 AM
well...............
now I've stopped smoking maybe I'm swapping allegiancies in case i join em :hopeless:
aah, coverin all the bases, so to speak! :laugh_at:
Tank Girl
30-11-2008, 12:42 AM
aah, coverin all the bases, so to speak! :laugh_at:
indeed - back to exersize tomorrow
anyway we know each others thinking patterns quite well
how about the other PV-ers?
I'm not gonna do any nore tonigt as I'm too pissed :laugh_at:
BioTech
30-11-2008, 02:24 AM
The race one came up with this for me:
Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American.
I was quite suprised and I'm not totally convinced it's an accurate test, but then again who knows what my subconcious thinks and what my concious has trained itself to think.
hairygrape
30-11-2008, 08:16 PM
I got 'Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for European American compared to African American.'
I don't really know why... I don't think how quickly you press buttons can accurately determine it... although I did find it interesting, I was expecting a better-backed-up reason for why. :apathy:
DontBeliveTheHype!
30-11-2008, 08:45 PM
well I am conciously aware I am
err... whats the word.. very judgemental towards fat people (sorry)
so I did that one next and am very surprised at my results and dont realy believe them....:hopeless:
Strong automatic preference for Fat People compared to Thin People.
chubby chaser!:crazy_dru
marcusblanc
30-11-2008, 10:50 PM
The race one came up with this for me:
I was quite suprised and I'm not totally convinced it's an accurate test, but then again who knows what my subconcious thinks and what my concious has trained itself to think.
in the book i'm readin the author describes a guy who repeatedly favoured whites over blacks in the IAT, then one day the effect didn't show up...
turned out the guy had been watchin the olympics that mornin... the thinkin bein that he had, for a change, been exposed to positive images of black people in the media.
hopefully the Obama's and Hamilton's of this world are helping to unwind some of these unconscious biases. :bounce_fl
marcusblanc
30-11-2008, 10:57 PM
I got 'Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for European American compared to African American.'
I don't really know why... I don't think how quickly you press buttons can accurately determine it... although I did find it interesting, I was expecting a better-backed-up reason for why. :apathy:
same result as me mate, i think it doesn't really address 'why' specifically (ie cause n effect), its more a matter of association.
i think the media is probably reason number 1, and if u are not particularly exposed to a certain group in society, wot else does ur subconscious have to go on? :hopeless:
i'm glad i'm not the only one who came up with this result, thanks for bein honest! :group_hug
DontBeliveTheHype!
30-11-2008, 11:11 PM
i got ...
Your data suggests:
Strong automatic preference for White People compared to Black People.
witch is a bit scary .. i don't think it's all that acurate tho ... as when it switches the sides of the black and white faces and not the good or bad words it really threw me as i was used to them being on the other side the whole time ... i think thats suposed to throw you .. but i just couldn't work out what side they were suposed to go on .. not sure how that can determin my racial preferances .. doesn't seem to have worked by the result .. and i am pretty sure even subcontiously i don't feel that way .. i'll give it another go tomorrow when iam not so tired
marcusblanc
30-11-2008, 11:22 PM
i got ...
Your data suggests:
Strong automatic preference for White People compared to Black People.
witch is a bit scary .. i don't think it's all that acurate tho ... as when it switches the sides of the black and white faces and not the good or bad words it really threw me as i was used to them being on the other side the whole time ... i think thats suposed to throw you .. but i just couldn't work out what side they were suposed to go on .. not sure how that can determin my racial preferances .. doesn't seem to have worked by the result .. and i am pretty sure even subcontiously i don't feel that way .. i'll give it another go tomorrow when iam not so tired
hmm... having another go would defo be interestin... it is called subconscious or unconscious for a reason, ie u arnt aware of it!
if u get the same result 2moro, maybe u cud try a day of conscious reprogramming, watch a few speeches by obama, nelson or martin luther king, a video of usain bolt etc...
it'd be great to think u cud improve ur result on this, it wud prove a point...
:group_hug
DJCliffy
01-12-2008, 12:28 AM
This test is silly.
DontBeliveTheHype!
01-12-2008, 08:39 AM
This test is silly.
have you been uncovered as a massive rasist as well then? :laugh_at:
globalloon
01-12-2008, 02:11 PM
inconclusive
i think that's because i did the first part of the test but declined to answer the 20 direct questions. I think the method is a nonsense
DontBeliveTheHype!
01-12-2008, 02:31 PM
inconclusive
i think that's because i did the first part of the test but declined to answer the 20 direct questions. I think the method is a nonsense
i didn't answer any of them questions either and it worked for me .. alltho it did call me a massive rasist .. mby thats cos i didn't answer the details about where i live ect lol
DJCliffy
01-12-2008, 03:00 PM
have you been uncovered as a massive rasist as well then? :laugh_at:
Something like that. :crazy:
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Something like that. :crazy:
well, me too... i'm glad it wasn't just me who 'failed' it. i think u can say its crap for other reasons, but not because it didn't give yer a comfortable result...
cos then it looks like u are just shooting the messenger!
i said it was challenging... :wink:
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 04:06 PM
basically, i think its entirely concievable that almost all people are subconsciously prejudiced, in one way or another. In fact, imho, to suggest otherwise, is a bit niave really...
DJCliffy
01-12-2008, 04:09 PM
http://i3.bebo.com/038a/9/mediuml/2007/10/19/23/2677826431a5869054655ml.gif (http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.jsp?PageNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=0&MemberId=2266808448&PhotoId=5903218647)
Dom_sufc
01-12-2008, 04:17 PM
Load of shite.
It's the way the test Is presented.
Strong automatic preference for White People compared to Black People.
I got used to answering firstly with White on the right side, then Good on the same side, then when they swapped, It was merely testing how quickly I could remember which side I was meant to be sorting them Into.
I think If the test were the opposite round, then so would my score.
In terms of my actual opinions, I have no Issues with any race, and would like to think I treat everyone equally. Although I will admit Im more cautious, or maybe deliberately act nicer towards another "colour" person, but only because I've never really knocked about with black/Asians ect. Not through choice, just never been many In my areas. Im not nice in a patronising way, or nice if they're a nob, I just mean Im probably subconsciously trying not look racist lol. It'd probably be different If I'd met/hung around with other skin coloured people.
I think I know one Indian origined person (Although English) and barely even would call a friend (Because hes a dick anyway). I've also only had one good mate who was black when I was about 8.
All the same I don't like this test. Although It does kind of match my subconscious feelings (because im not used to other ethnicities) It doesn't reflect what I know Is right or how I act much.
Why we need a test to tell ourselves If we are racist Is beyond me :you_crazy
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 04:18 PM
http://i3.bebo.com/038a/9/mediuml/2007/10/19/23/2677826431a5869054655ml.gif (http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.jsp?PageNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=0&MemberId=2266808448&PhotoId=5903218647)
:laugh_at: :laugh_at: nice work fella!
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 04:20 PM
inconclusive
i think that's because i did the first part of the test but declined to answer the 20 direct questions. I think the method is a nonsense
ha ha, are we sure we didnt get a result?
Super contribution, thanks! :wink:
DJCliffy
01-12-2008, 04:25 PM
:laugh_at: :laugh_at: nice work fella!
:bounce_fl
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 04:51 PM
hmm, those stoopid Harvard people! fancy puttin in all that effort into setting up the site, and not even thinkin it thru...
i guess people don't like bein called racists, and that is understandable, i wasn't entirely happy either! :group_hug but i dont think it is anything to be particularly ashamed about. The media discriminates in a totally blatant manner, for a start, and we are understandably ignorant about cultures that we have little contact with...
this is cribbed from the site, and this bloke (some bloody foriegner! :wink:) puts it better than i could.
Many years ago, Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."
Load of shite.
It's the way the test Is presented.
Strong automatic preference for White People compared to Black People.
I got used to answering firstly with White on the right side, then Good on the same side, then when they swapped, It was merely testing how quickly I could remember which side I was meant to be sorting them Into.
I think If the test were the opposite round, then so would my score.
In terms of my actual opinions, I have no Issues with any race, and would like to think I treat everyone equally. Although I will admit Im more cautious, or maybe deliberately act nicer towards another "colour" person, but only because I've never really knocked about with black/Asians ect. Not through choice, just never been many In my areas. Im not nice in a patronising way, or nice if they're a nob, I just mean Im probably subconsciously trying not look racist lol. It'd probably be different If I'd met/hung around with other skin coloured people.
I think I know one Indian origined person (Although English) and barely even would call a friend (Because hes a dick anyway). I've also only had one good mate who was black when I was about 8.
All the same I don't like this test. Although It does kind of match my subconscious feelings (because im not used to other ethnicities) It doesn't reflect what I know Is right or how I act much.
Why we need a test to tell ourselves If we are racist Is beyond me :you_crazy
from the FAQs on the site...
Could the result be a function of the order in which I did the two parts? I had to group one category together with pleasant words first. I then found it difficult when I later had to group the other category with pleasant words.
Answer: The order in which tests are administered does make a difference to the overall result in some tests. However, the difference is small and recent changes to the test have sharply reduced the influence of order. Because of this order effect, the orders used for IATs presented on this website are assigned at random. For any data we present, we are careful to be sure that half the test-takers got the A then B order and the other half got the B then A order. With the revised task design, the order has only a minimal influence on task performance. If you want to check whether the order made a difference for you, you can take the test again and complete it if you get assigned to the reverse order. If you do take the test twice in different orders and get different outcomes, the best estimate of your result is intermediate between the two. For more information about the order effect, see this paper (Nosek, Greenwald, & Banaji, in press) (http://www.projectimplicit.net/articles.php#1).
so maybe u should do it again...
I also think that i slightly over compensate for lack of familiarity, when in the company of people i percieve to be different, so i certainly see where you coming from on that one.
i would have thought it was useful to know if u were subconsciously prejudiced against any particular group, if u were interviewng people for a job for example.
Or merely to raise awareness...that even though we might feel ourselves to be free of prejudice intellectually, our behaviour may tell a different story.
thanks for explaining your feelings anyway, :group_hug remember that most of us that have managed to get a result from the test, have been labelled as prejudiced, so your not the only one. :wink:
i'm organising some pointy hats and burning crosses for us all, i should able to get a considerable discount, cos there are so many of us! :laugh_at: :laugh_at:
marcusblanc
01-12-2008, 04:53 PM
here are the FAQ's, if anyone else wants a quick look, it seems to cover a fair amount...
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/background/faqs.html
:group_hug
It's interesting, but I always have trouble understanding what the sentences mean, the ones where you have to agree/disagree/slightly agree/slightly disagree etc. ...maybe I'm just dumb :weee:
marcusblanc
04-12-2008, 11:42 PM
yeah, i did glaze over at that point, which might not have helped things...
i thought the first bit wasd good tho. i read that 80% of white americans show a preference for, well.. white americans, and 40 or 50% of black americans show a preference for, u guessed it... white americans! :crazy:
which is bad really...
Your Result
Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.
DIONYSUS
05-12-2008, 12:28 AM
i dont really get it...
just seems like button pushing exercise that sort of luls you into a pattern then changes it, and you've pressed the button before you have time to think about it, but i guess thats the point.. anyway.
Your data suggests a moderate automatic preference for Black people over White people
Your data suggests a strong automatic preference for Barack Obama over John McCain
marcusblanc
05-12-2008, 06:14 PM
well, we are doing v well now. i've just checked and its not 80% of whites show preference for whites, its more than 80% of everyone who has ever taken the test, ended up having pro-white associations.
that includes 50% of approx 50,000 black people who have taken the test so far...
Mahzarin Banjani, who teaches psychology at Harvard and is one of the leaders in IAT research says "You don't choose to make positive associations with the dominant group. But you are required to. All around you that group is being paired with good things. You open the newspaper and you turn on the TV, and you can't escape it."
DIONYSUS
06-12-2008, 11:53 AM
well, we are doing v well now. i've just checked and its not 80% of whites show preference for whites, its more than 80% of everyone who has ever taken the test, ended up having pro-white associations.
that includes 50% of approx 50,000 black people who have taken the test so far...
Mahzarin Banjani, who teaches psychology at Harvard and is one of the leaders in IAT research says "You don't choose to make positive associations with the dominant group. But you are required to. All around you that group is being paired with good things. You open the newspaper and you turn on the TV, and you can't escape it."
so what does that mean about my result?
MrAHC
06-12-2008, 04:17 PM
Who gives a fuck? Boring boring...
DJCliffy
06-12-2008, 04:18 PM
Who gives a fuck? Boring boring...
:laugh_at:
uglyprettytrash
06-12-2008, 08:32 PM
I'm unconvinced this test is accurate. Using "good" and "bad" as opposed to any other adjective, doesn't conclude anything.
Though I'm gonna be loads freaked out if I see any of those people again :crazy:
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 07:05 PM
Who gives a fuck? Boring boring...
Thanks for the contribution! :wink:
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 07:39 PM
so what does that mean about my result?
weell, err, i feel a bit like Mystic Meg now... surely it was a good result for ya? i wish i had done that well. :hopeless:
There are several thoughts that occur tho, maybe...
1 Ur not as influenced by the mainstream media as some of us!
or
2 the Obama effect! seems a bit unlikely.
or
3 i think there is an issue surrounding reaction time, i think the quicker u react, the less likely it is that ur conscious brain is gonna get involved. Thats why it goes on about not worrying about makin mistakes, cos they want you to be as quick as possible. If i'd thought about my answers long enough, i would hope i would have got a 'better' result.
or
4 Maybe you could try it again if u r skeptical about your result. It should be reasonably consistent over a number of goes, according to the documentation. Also, u could do it with the other start point, altho the info i have already posted suggests its not that big an issue.
or
5 maybe the results profile would be different in the UK, therefore ur result would be more 'normal' (!).
or
6 wilful contrarianism! :wink:
err... i can probly think of more stuff, if i think a bit harder, which i will do if u wanna respond. I'm not sayin this test is the last word or anything, but i think it is measuring something that is interesting.
To me anyway! :laugh_at:
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 07:51 PM
I'm unconvinced this test is accurate. Using "good" and "bad" as opposed to any other adjective, doesn't conclude anything.
Though I'm gonna be loads freaked out if I see any of those people again :crazy:
Its a measure of association, rather than a 'cause and effect' thing... so it will never absolutely 'prove' anything.
I'm not quite sure i understand ur point, i think the test is trying to associate positive and negative feelings toward different groups in society, and seems to work on gender, sexuality, etc, etc, as well as race.
If the adjectives were different, you would be looking at some other association, which is fine, if you can think of a reason for doing so.
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 07:54 PM
:laugh_at:
:hopeless: Jus cos u gotta pointy hat! :wink:
Snot as nice as my pointy hat...and i've got a cross i might burn as well! :laugh_at:Ur just jealous...
DJCliffy
08-12-2008, 08:01 PM
:hopeless: Jus cos u gotta pointy hat! :wink:
Snot as nice as my pointy hat...and i've got a cross i might burn as well! :laugh_at:Ur just jealous...
I like my ghost outfit. :bounce_fl
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 08:05 PM
Us racists have all the best outfits! :wink:
DJCliffy
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Us racists have all the best outfits! :wink:
Lol :wink:
MrAHC
08-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Thanks for the contribution! :wink:
I hate racism, I hate the topic racism I want to ban the word. Its devisive in as such that whoever invented the theory wants shooting.
Everyone descriminates against some type of person or group, social as generaly people want to be around similar people to themselves whatever.
You find that the biggest anti racists actualy have very few if any non white friends in there social group. And your avrage run of the mill a political un pc not paticualy bothered person is more likely to have non white friends.
The term racist is used to much and people are begining to get fed up with it. Why do0 you think the BNP are gaining so much support, people are just fed up with the PC brigade. :you_crazy
I'm probbly racist for saying this now!!
marcusblanc
08-12-2008, 10:52 PM
point taken, but this is the only thread i've ever done that lasted more than a day without sinkin like a stone! :laugh_at: Admittedly, i perhaps made the title a lil confrontational... :wink:
I think this test echoes your point that almost everyone discriminates against someone, in that you might survive the race test, but then there is the gender test, the sexuality test, the disability test, the 'fattist' test and on and on.
And therefore 'let he/she that is without sin (prejudice) cast the first stone'...
Not that i'm sayin racism is acceptable, but its not an easy problem to address without being extremely careful about some being more equal than others, because to renounce one form of prejudice, without addressing all such issues is surely folly...
For example, to relate this to another thread, we are all familiar with the Nazi atrocities in the concentration camps in WW2, but we might also reflect that a 'just' war was fought by the US (with segregated army units, and a deeply racist domestic policy) and the UK (which had horrendous policies in place in, for example, Australia, against the 'subhuman' aboriginals, and who had famously invented the concentration camp 40 years before, in the Boer War).
We should always be very careful about assuming we have the moral high ground.
CozMik
10-12-2008, 05:11 PM
i gotta bit of a thing bout ginger people...always have done since i was little...i dont hate em!...but i hate there ginger hair:laugh_at:...sometimes i feel a bit 'uneasy' when im in the company of one.
dont know if that defines me as a racist or not...
DJCliffy
10-12-2008, 05:16 PM
i gotta bit of a thing bout ginger people...always have done since i was little...i dont hate em!...but i hate there ginger hair:laugh_at:...sometimes i feel a bit 'uneasy' when im in the company of one.
dont know if that defines me as a racist or not...
Not a racist, Probably a bit Gingism tho.
CozMik
10-12-2008, 05:20 PM
Not a racist, Probably a bit Gingism tho.
Cheers Doc!:laugh_at:
.. i might start a thread called gingism. id like to no if others get it
DJCliffy
10-12-2008, 05:27 PM
Cheers Doc!:laugh_at:
.. i might start a thread called gingism. id like to no if others get it
I don't get it but i am afraid of little people. Dunno why but midgets scare the hell out of me.
CozMik
10-12-2008, 05:49 PM
I don't get it but i am afraid of little people. Dunno why but midgets scare the hell out of me.
whats classed as a midget though, someone under 5ft?
people with long beards proper freak me out, fucking weird!
marcusblanc
10-12-2008, 06:03 PM
i'm definitely 'fattist', but i attribute that to hangin round with ravers for ages. On my birthday last year my sister observed that not on of the 30-ish people there was remotely fat.
i think there is a fattist IAT, i'll check...
DJCliffy
10-12-2008, 06:08 PM
whats classed as a midget though, someone under 5ft?
Not 5ft but i mean really small midgets. I don't dislike em or nothing, quite the opposite. I'm just a bit fearful of them. it's that fucking leprahaun film that ruined me when i was young.
marcusblanc
10-12-2008, 06:11 PM
well there is a fattist IAT but no gingist IAT...
I think this is because everyone already knows that gingers are wrong uns, why bother to even test, its just a fact! :wink:
With the honourable exception of anyone who reads this.
I'm sure i'm contradicting my earlier point about treating all prejudices equally... :hopeless:
i guess i don't take gingist discrimination seriously.
mrschingchong
10-12-2008, 06:18 PM
I heard that the ginger people are a dieing breed and will be exstinct in 100 hundred years time:bounce_fl.
CozMik
10-12-2008, 06:24 PM
theyre always lookin so down in the dumps when ever i spot one i guess i feel sorry for em, its not there fault. they jus hapen to piss me off:laugh_at:
marcusblanc
10-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Not 5ft but i mean really small midgets. I don't dislike em or nothing, quite the opposite. I'm just a bit fearful of them. it's that fucking leprahaun film that ruined me when i was young.
Ur a 'midgist'! :laugh_at:
i worked with a fair few dwarves in a panto i worked on years ago...
they were a total pain in the arse! somthing to do with the amount of painkillers they had to take.
they had loads of physical problems, its quite sad really. :hopeless:
DJCliffy
10-12-2008, 07:59 PM
Ur a 'midgist'! :laugh_at:
i worked with a fair few dwarves in a panto i worked on years ago...
they were a total pain in the arse! somthing to do with the amount of painkillers they had to take.
they had loads of physical problems, its quite sad really. :hopeless:
Or PORGism
People Of Restricted Growth ism. It is quite sad really but they still freak me out.
marcusblanc
10-12-2008, 08:04 PM
u wouldnt have liked the show i did then, they tend to marry other short uns, so we had whole families of em runnin about! :laugh_at:
a couple of em had been in the film Time Bandits, that might cure u cos it is a great film. :group_hug
DontBeliveTheHype!
10-12-2008, 08:53 PM
u wouldnt have liked the show i did then, they tend to marry other short uns, so we had whole families of em runnin about! :laugh_at:
a couple of em had been in the film Time Bandits, that might cure u cos it is a great film. :group_hug
cliffy more into midget films such as arse bandits ect. :hopeless:
marcusblanc
10-12-2008, 09:46 PM
cliffy more into midget films such as arse bandits ect. :hopeless:
:laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at:
DJCliffy
10-12-2008, 10:24 PM
cliffy more into midget films such as arse bandits ect. :hopeless:
Slanderous.
hairygrape
11-12-2008, 10:54 AM
u wouldnt have liked the show i did then, they tend to marry other short uns, so we had whole families of em runnin about! :laugh_at:
Haha, sounds like a nightmare Cliffy would have. :laugh_at:
Cliffy - imagine going to a rave where everyone surrounding you (even the DJ) is a midget... 100's of dancing dinkies all around you bopping to the beats... Scared yet? :wink:
DJCliffy
11-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Haha, sounds like a nightmare Cliffy would have. :laugh_at:
Cliffy - imagine going to a rave where everyone surrounding you (even the DJ) is a midget... 100's of dancing dinkies all around you bopping to the beats... Scared yet? :wink:
Fuck that man. I have been to a rave once where i did some proper trippy pills and had swig of some vodka laced with acid. Anyway there was a midget there who i swear looked like a fucking oompa loompa. Someone told matey this and he started chasing after me, not in threatening way but he kept jumping out at me. no joke man i fucking locked myself in the bogs and next thing i see this little face peer under the bog door.
Thought i was in a bloody horror film so started screaming and actually thought he was going to eat my soul. Good times..............:cry:
hairygrape
11-12-2008, 05:43 PM
Fuck that man. I have been to a rave once where i did some proper trippy pills and had swig of some vodka laced with acid. Anyway there was a midget there who i swear looked like a fucking oompa loompa. Someone told matey this and he started chasing after me, not in threatening way but he kept jumping out at me. no joke man i fucking locked myself in the bogs and next thing i see this little face peer under the bog door.
Thought i was in a bloody horror film so started screaming and actually thought he was going to eat my soul. Good times..............:cry:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at: :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:
DIONYSUS
11-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Fuck that man. I have been to a rave once where i did some proper trippy pills and had swig of some vodka laced with acid. Anyway there was a midget there who i swear looked like a fucking oompa loompa. Someone told matey this and he started chasing after me, not in threatening way but he kept jumping out at me. no joke man i fucking locked myself in the bogs and next thing i see this little face peer under the bog door.
Thought i was in a bloody horror film so started screaming and actually thought he was going to eat my soul. Good times..............:cry:
that is fucking funny.
are you sure he was actually there?:laugh_at::you_crazy
DJCliffy
11-12-2008, 06:01 PM
that is fucking funny.
are you sure he was actually there?:laugh_at::you_crazy
He probably wasn't but fuck me man it was scary. I kept hearing the music in my head on the way back, kept looking over my shoulder thinking a troop of oompas were gonna perform a flanking maneuver and ambush me. :hopeless:
hairygrape
11-12-2008, 06:41 PM
He probably wasn't but fuck me man it was scary. I kept hearing the music in my head on the way back, kept looking over my shoulder thinking a troop of oompas were gonna perform a flanking manuvore and ambush me. :hopeless:
Hahaha, this shit should be stickied.... Just Cliffy's bit! raaa
MrAHC
12-12-2008, 10:15 AM
i'm ginger when my hair grows.
hairygrape
12-12-2008, 10:51 AM
i'm ginger when my hair grows.
KILL IT WITH FIRE
My dad is ginger too. That means I'm a carrier! :sign0068: Maybe I should be put down for the good of Cosmic_Enegery's kind of people...
elretardo87
14-12-2008, 08:50 AM
It called me a racist. Probably because its a test designed by Americans and they are all idiots.
Not really I got bored about 2 minutes in because I haven't been to bed.
marcusblanc
14-12-2008, 03:55 PM
It called me a racist. Probably because its a test designed by Americans and they are all idiots.
aah, join the club... free pointy hat with every effort! :wink:
many of the posters have been skeptical, but i have just read a very good book about this subject, and there is loads of evidence that wot is being tested is a real effect.
in one study, subjects were shown a white or a black face, and then shown a picture of a gun, under extreme time pressure. Care to guess which group recognised the gun quickest? thats right, the subjects that saw the black faces first... :hopeless: anyone wanna argue about what that shows?
the scary thing is that the study was repeated with a wrench, the subjects still saw it as a gun more often after seeing a black face!
Whites More Likely To Misidentify Tools As Guns When Linked To Black Faces (http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/gunbias.htm)
This is one reason why the police are more likely to shoot a black man, or even a Brazilian perhaps...
Its worth re-emphasizing that we are talking about subconcious prejudice here, and i don't think its really that shocking, when u think about it... but people are understandably reluctant to to accept the evidence! :laugh_at:
DontBeliveTheHype!
14-12-2008, 03:57 PM
It called me a racist. Probably because its a test designed by Americans and they are all idiots.
:laugh_at:
aah, join the club... free pointy hat with every effort! :wink:
many of the posters have been skeptical, but i have just read a very good book about this subject, and there is loads of evidence that wot is being tested is a real effect.
in one study, subjects were shown a white or a black face, and then shown a picture of a gun, under extreme time pressure. Care to guess which group recognised the gun quickest? thats right, the subjects that saw the black faces first... :hopeless: anyone wanna argue about what that shows?
the scary thing is that the study was repeated with a wrench, the subjects still saw it as a gun more often after seeing a black face!
Whites More Likely To Misidentify Tools As Guns When Linked To Black Faces (http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/gunbias.htm)
This is one reason why the police are more likely to shoot a black man, or even a Brazilian perhaps...
Its worth re-emphasizing that we are talking about subconcious prejudice here, and i don't think its really that shocking, when u think about it... but people are understandably reluctant to to accept the evidence! :laugh_at:
it would be interesting to see what would happen if the test was done by some one who didn't know there own color ... but this would be allmost imposible i would imagin
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