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amyberthelet
22-10-2008, 05:57 PM
Lord, help me to put on the whole armor You have provided for me so that I can stand strong against the enemy. Help me to be strong in Your Word and in obedience to Your ways. Help me to be steadfast in faith so that I won't waver in the face of ominous circumstances. Help me to be mighty in praise and worship of You, of who You are and all that You do. Help me to be strong in Your power.

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Ephesians 6:11

- Prayers For Emotional Wholeness (Stormie Omartian)

Southcaver
22-10-2008, 06:08 PM
Whatever floats your boat, aint doing nothing for me though.

Acidfairy
22-10-2008, 06:16 PM
Whatever floats your boat, aint doing nothing for me though.

Then don't hang about in the religion section then....Nobody's making you read it...

Amy is obviously a very spritual person and you're not, that's fair enough.. but this section is here for discussion not slating peoples comments...

Southcaver
22-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Ok then, I would like to know how that helps you stand strong.
What does reading it do for you amy?
I'm not slating it, its just that as a non religious person from a non religious family I find it hard to understand.

Acidfairy
22-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Ok then, I would like to know how that helps you stand strong.
What does reading it do for you amy?
I'm not slating it, its just that as a non religious person from a non religious family I find it hard to understand.

Great much more constructive.. Thanks :wink:

I think I could probably answer this, but I think it would be better to allow Amy to answer...

DJCliffy
22-10-2008, 10:42 PM
Sounds like a soldiers prayer. :love:

amyberthelet
23-10-2008, 01:24 AM
Well you're on the right track! It is a prayer for the WARRIOR - we do not fight against flesh and blood, but powers, principalities.....(sorry, I may be a Christian but I still can't locate everything...) This is about putting on the whole armor of God - it's Ephesians 6 ....all I have handy rt now is The Message version - also have 'the word on the street', which is targeted more for the UK...... let me know if you'd like that translation as well....

"... God is strong, and He wants you strong. So take everything the Master has set out for you, well-made weapons of the best materials. And put them to use so you will be able to stand up to everything the Devil throws your way. This is no afternoon athletic contest that we'll walk away from and forget about in a couple of hours. This is for keeps, a life-or-death fight to the finish against the Devil and all his angels.

Be prepared. You're up against far more than you can handle on your own. Take all the help you can get, every weapon God has issued, so that when it's all over but the shouting you'll still be on your feet. Truth, righteousness, peace, faith, and salvation are more than words. Learn how to apply them. You'll need them throughout your life. God's Word is an indispensable weapon. In the same way, prayer is essential in this ongoing warfare. Pray hard and long. Pray for your brothers and sisters. Keep your eyes open. Keep each other's spirits up so that no one falls behind or drops out." Ephesians 6:10-18 The Message)

amyberthelet
23-10-2008, 06:06 PM
I realize I haven't really been clear on why I am posting these.....
I have a bunch of Daily Devotionals all centered around recovery, hope, etc.....I have a calling on my life to use what I know and have learned/am still learning about drugs, addiction, recovery from a Christian perspective to help people in the UK. I really want to get over there in person, but it's not in the finances yet...so in the meantime the Internet is my forum. When I post elsewhere on here I will TRY to avoid Christianity (no promises tho - it's who I am) - but when I'm on here just know where I am coming from, that my posts are from an Evangelical standpoint etc. I simply hope that these will shine some light on someone's day..... :love:

Lord, when I feel weak I turn to You, for You are my strength. When I am at my weakest, You give me a song in my heart. It's a song of praise to You that I can sing whenever fear threatens to overtake me. Because You have saved me and rescued me from a life of wandering and death, I can now depend on You for guidance, deliverance, healing, and strength. Help me to remember that You are my stronghold in the time of trouble and the rock on which I stand every day.

The Lord is my strength and song, and He has become my salvation. The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tents of the righteous; the right hand of the Lord does valiantly. Psalm 118:14-15

- Prayers for Emotional Wholeness (Stormie Omartian)

photographthesun
23-10-2008, 06:08 PM
Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a color TV ?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, won’t you buy me a color TV ?

Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a night on the town ?
I’m counting on you, Lord, please don’t let me down.
Prove that you love me and buy the next round,
Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends,
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Acidfairy
23-10-2008, 06:22 PM
I realize I haven't really been clear on why I am posting these.....
I have a bunch of Daily Devotionals all centered around recovery, hope, etc.....I have a calling on my life to use what I know and have learned/am still learning about drugs, addiction, recovery from a Christian perspective to help people in the UK. I really want to get over there in person, but it's not in the finances yet...so in the meantime the Internet is my forum. When I post elsewhere on here I will TRY to avoid Christianity (no promises tho - it's who I am) - but when I'm on here just know where I am coming from, that my posts are from an Evangelical standpoint etc. I simply hope that these will shine some light on someone's day..... :love:


Thanks for sharing that with us Amy, i kinda guessed that the prayers were things you said to get you through :wink:

I know a lot of addicts who want to help other people that are in the same situation they used to be in and I think that's to be commended and I'm sure that your posts will shine some light on someone :love:

amyberthelet
24-10-2008, 05:10 PM
Thank You, Lord, that in my weakness You are strong. Please perfect Your strength and power in me. In the areas where I feel weakest, I pray that Your strength will be revealed in me as a force to be acknowledged. I know that the things You have called me to do, even in the daily requirements of my life, are things I cannot do without You. Stengthen me to run the race every day with high hopes of great victory.

He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ mat rest upon me. 2 Corinthians 12:9

- Prayers For Emotional Wholeness (Stormie Omartian)

Raj
25-10-2008, 01:59 AM
Personally I have always felt that only I could make myself do these things but then I am a bit of a persnickety about personal responsibility.....

amyberthelet
25-10-2008, 06:14 PM
Well, humans are great at getting into trouble - no probs doing that....but very few people can just decide - ok I'm going to stop being an addict today and actually DO it. I know I wasn't able to - some are and that's great.....I needed Divine help!

O-D
25-10-2008, 07:49 PM
Huzzah for you, at least you got off of the stuff, despite believing in fiction.raaa

amyberthelet
25-10-2008, 07:51 PM
Lord, I come to You right now to draw on Your strength and power. I ask You to be with me to strengthen me in all areas where I feel weak. I pray that You will help me to stand strong, no matter what comes against me. Save me from the things that would try to destroy me. Your power is far greater than that which I fear could crush me. Thank You that because I draw close to You constantly, You are always near me to be my strength.

You, O Lord, do not be far from me; O my strength, hasten to help me! Psalm 22:19

- Prayers For Emotional Wholeness (Stormie Omartian)

amyberthelet
26-10-2008, 04:58 PM
How Can I Resist Temptation?

God's Response

Use every piece of God's armor to resist the enemy in the time of evil, so that after the battle you will still be standing firm. Stand your ground, putting on the sturdy belt of truth and the body armor of God's righteousness. For shoes, put on the peace that comes from the Good News, So that you will be fully prepared. In every battle you will need faith as your shield to stop the fiery arrows aimed at you by satan. Put on salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Pray at all times and on every occasion in the power of the Holy Spirit. Stay alert and be persistent in your prayers for all Christians everywhere. Ephesians 6:13-18

The time to prepare for battle is before it begins. The time to prepare for temptation is before it overwhelms you. Your greatest defense against temptation is to arm yourself by praying and studying God's Word. Don't fool yourself into thinking that you can resist temptation without knowing the special tactics God provides in the Bible.

God's Promise

Remember that the temptations that come into your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will keep the temptation from becoming so strong that you can't stand up against it. When you are tempted, He will show you a way out so that you will not give in to it. 1 Corinthians 10:13

- The One Year Mini For Women (Tyndale) raaa
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Tank Girl
26-10-2008, 05:58 PM
I'm not religious one iota

but I do like aspects of the 'serenity prayer' minus the lord bit :laugh_at:

to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.


as I'm with you Raj on personal responsibility



its used in AA/NA/CA etc

amyberthelet
27-10-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm not religious either! I just worship the Lord Jesus Christ - there's a big diff!!!! Most peeps don't clue in on that....

Anyway - if you are saying that prayer, who are you praying to??? Who will grant you the serenity????? Sometimes you CAN'T just 'do it by yourself'.....

DIONYSUS
27-10-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm not religious either! I just worship the Lord Jesus Christ - there's a big diff!!!! Most peeps don't clue in on that....

Anyway - if you are saying that prayer, who are you praying to??? Who will grant you the serenity????? Sometimes you CAN'T just 'do it by yourself'.....

im sorry, what? how can you say you worship jesus christ, but are not religious? That just doesnt make any sense. Also the endless posting of prayers on here is starting to get a bit tedious. Do you not have anything else to say? Im not slagging off your beliefs its just coming across as a bit like spam now tbh.

photographthesun
27-10-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm not religious either! I just worship the Lord Jesus Christ - there's a big diff!!!! Most peeps don't clue in on that....

Anyway - if you are saying that prayer, who are you praying to??? Who will grant you the serenity????? Sometimes you CAN'T just 'do it by yourself'.....

Please do explain this one...

Tank Girl
27-10-2008, 07:07 PM
I'm not religious either! I just worship the Lord Jesus Christ - there's a big diff!!!! Most peeps don't clue in on that....

Anyway - if you are saying that prayer, who are you praying to??? Who will grant you the serenity????? Sometimes you CAN'T just 'do it by yourself'.....


:hopeless: I'm not 'praying' in the 'conventional' way - I'm saying the words to myself, as I've already said I dont believe in god / god's
but I DO believe in self / personal responsibility!!!!

some people may not feel they can do 'it' themselves however I believe we all the the choice to make changes in our own lives - whereas you believe some people / you needed god - who's to say I am right or you are right?

Take it as this - I like the words / the statement / the sentement ......


And I dont have a clue how you can worship the 'lord jesus christ' and not be religious? please explain......

amyberthelet
28-10-2008, 05:49 PM
Ok, I'll put it like this.... the statues, altar, priests etc... THATS RELIGION. They are outward symbols of man's attempt to communicate with God. They are NOT GOD! Statues and altars and even priests are NOT NECESSARY to feel God's presence - in fact, He is NOT present in many! There are many 'dead' churches, where they are just going through the motions, and God and His Holy Spirit in fact are Not present!!!

Religion is things like tradition, memorized prayers,going through the motions every Sunday kind of thing.....that is NOT what Christ died to bring about!!!!! He shed His blood on the cross so you would turn to Him in your darkest moments, repent of your sins, and be reborn into a new life! This can happen ANYWHERE - even a nasty old abandoned house that smells like pee!!!! Yes it is important that Christians gather together for worship - but not necessary to salvation! You can feel His presence anywhere, from a grand cathedral to your own bedroom. He loves you, and all he wants is you to repent from your sins - and just love and trust Him!

It is hard to get out from the pre-conceived notions of who God is that we were taught in our youth - I was brought up strict Roman Catholic by grandparents who believed that if you even VISITED another denomination's church you would go to hell! http://forum.recoveryandsupport.com/images/smilies/girl_devil.gif
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photographthesun
30-10-2008, 11:30 AM
Ok, I'll put it like this.... the statues, altar, priests etc... THATS RELIGION. They are outward symbols of man's attempt to communicate with God. They are NOT GOD! Statues and altars and even priests are NOT NECESSARY to feel God's presence - in fact, He is NOT present in many! There are many 'dead' churches, where they are just going through the motions, and God and His Holy Spirit in fact are Not present!!!

Religion is things like tradition, memorized prayers,going through the motions every Sunday kind of thing.....that is NOT what Christ died to bring about!!!!! He shed His blood on the cross so you would turn to Him in your darkest moments, repent of your sins, and be reborn into a new life! This can happen ANYWHERE - even a nasty old abandoned house that smells like pee!!!! Yes it is important that Christians gather together for worship - but not necessary to salvation! You can feel His presence anywhere, from a grand cathedral to your own bedroom. He loves you, and all he wants is you to repent from your sins - and just love and trust Him!

It is hard to get out from the pre-conceived notions of who God is that we were taught in our youth - I was brought up strict Roman Catholic by grandparents who believed that if you even VISITED another denomination's church you would go to hell! http://forum.recoveryandsupport.com/images/smilies/girl_devil.gif
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religion 
–noun 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. 7.religions, Archaic. religious rites.8.Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow

The defenition of religion is not ambigious, your defenition is not a correct one. I would suggest that preaching inacurately will not aid your conversion attempts. :)

amyberthelet
30-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Jesus was AGAINST the religious Pharisees and Saducees! You can call it religion, Christianity, whatever you wish - it is all about Jesus and His blood that was shed for you, period. No amount of incense,praying to idols, saying rosary beads etc. will save you - just the SHED BLOOD OF CHRIST. God is not after sacrifice, but a humble heart and contrite spirit.

DIONYSUS
31-10-2008, 10:35 AM
is the world gonna end in 2012?

Sini
31-10-2008, 10:47 AM
is the world gonna end in 2012?

I keep hearing this, i'm not that impressed with the prospect of dying at 25!

DIONYSUS
31-10-2008, 11:35 AM
it probably wont happen.. probably.

Sini
31-10-2008, 12:50 PM
Yeah you're probaly right, nothing to worrie about at all [shifty eyes]

photographthesun
31-10-2008, 03:10 PM
Jesus was AGAINST the religious Pharisees and Saducees! You can call it religion, Christianity, whatever you wish - it is all about Jesus and His blood that was shed for you, period. No amount of incense,praying to idols, saying rosary beads etc. will save you - just the SHED BLOOD OF CHRIST. God is not after sacrifice, but a humble heart and contrite spirit.

Jesus didnt have periods he was a boy silly!

DJCliffy
31-10-2008, 06:48 PM
is the world gonna end in 2012?

It might do but then again it might not. I have a funny feeling if it does, it will be down to me in some small way, not easy being the AntiChrist ya know. raaa