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quietRIOT
26-08-2008, 10:19 AM
Yes can say they do work, :bounce_flhad 2 at the wknd and was up allll night dancing!!! felt like id had a really good ecstacy tablet, i bought uforic ones (cant remember how to spell that word)that were a bit speedy £10 for 3, gave one away, no comedown, felt fine yesterday, no going back now, can keep your drugs,ha...!!!
oh they were called london underground.....i like it !!!:love:
DaftFader
27-08-2008, 09:01 AM
Yes can say they do work, :bounce_flhad 2 at the wknd and was up allll night dancing!!! felt like id had a really good ecstacy tablet, i bought uforic ones (cant remember how to spell that word)that were a bit speedy £10 for 3, gave one away, no comedown, felt fine yesterday, no going back now, can keep your drugs,ha...!!!
oh they were called london underground.....i like it !!!:love:yeah london underground are relly good legal highs .. i have tried a few diferant types and they allways seem to be the better ones :wink:
elretardo87
28-08-2008, 11:26 AM
yeah london underground are relly good legal highs .. i have tried a few diferant types and they allways seem to be the better ones :wink:
Try anything from the pep pills range....these (http://www.apothecaryedinburgh.co.uk/acatalog/next_generation.html)ones or these (http://www.apothecaryedinburgh.co.uk/acatalog/extra_strong.html)ones. London Underground are usually pretty damn good but pretty damn expensive and recently the supply has been very problematic as they have had some customs issues.
ronnyrarr
28-08-2008, 12:38 PM
Try anything from the pep pills range....these (http://www.apothecaryedinburgh.co.uk/acatalog/next_generation.html)ones or these (http://www.apothecaryedinburgh.co.uk/acatalog/extra_strong.html)ones. London Underground are usually pretty damn good but pretty damn expensive and recently the supply has been very problematic as they have had some customs issues.
one of them links is for plant food. wouldnt wanna take them out rraving with me
ellie
28-08-2008, 12:44 PM
one of them links is for plant food. wouldnt wanna take them out rraving with me
i'm guessing the 'not for human consumption' and 'plant food' are to get round some loop hole in the law...how rediculous!
sirstonealot
28-08-2008, 01:08 PM
i'm guessing the 'not for human consumption' and 'plant food' are to get round some loop hole in the law...how rediculous!
Yeh they are not sold for human consumption, that way if somone eats one and dies there family cant sue, I must say that somone found the doves (labeled as plant food) to be the most enjoyable of the LU range.
Enjoy them well you can kids coz your fucking goverment will take them away from you as fast as they can.
Southcaver
28-08-2008, 05:06 PM
What sort of things are in these? It dosen't say.
sirstonealot
28-08-2008, 05:17 PM
I dont say so unless somone sends them for analsys that will remain a secret.
Some have lsa or beta ketones..sounds like fun stuff huh.
Tank Girl
28-08-2008, 07:14 PM
after taking LU doves we looked up some of the ingredients:
Ketone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone#Applications)
Dicalcium phosphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicalcium_phosphate)
Magnesium stearate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate)
Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFMPP)
dont know if this helps to give any idea of what they put into them, great buzz, we think we over did it by taking 2 - 3 as horrendeous horrendeous come down!!!!! :yakk:
General Lighting
28-08-2008, 07:50 PM
they are as "herbal" as monosodium glutamate, and are drugs just as much as as amfet, MDMA etc just that authorities haven't yet made them illegal (this takes about a year to do once the scientists have filed their risk assesments).
Chemically they would be slightly better made than street pills, but even when they have been analysed the ingredients keep changing and they have already been made illegal in NZ, which was formerly tolerant and the source of most of these things.
There is a amnesty period then the law is enforced in October (like what happened with Shrooms)
I suspect the reason why people say "wow these are good and no comedown" is also because many users are more mature and doing less drugs anyway, and don't binge as much. I'm sure if you do enough of these you will become physically and mentally ill same as any other drug.
I think NZ has a public health service just like ours (most Commonwealth countries do), I wonder if this is yet another backlash and loss of "freedoms" again because people got greedy?
elretardo87
28-08-2008, 07:56 PM
Two things....
1. The wiki article on ketones doesn't help you understand their use in legal highs at all. The LU doves contain one specific ketone, possibly ethylone or something similar. To learna bit more about them try searchinng for things like ethylone, butylone and methylone and you will get the general jist of what they are.
2. TFMPP is not in the new doves so the comedown is nowhere near as bad as it has been banned. Anyone selling you them is a naughty person and should also be selling them shit loads cheaper than the actual doves (without tfmpp).
BigAndy
29-08-2008, 12:20 PM
Try to steer clear of London Underground 3.1 range, there have been many reports of nightmarish nights and seriously bad comedowns. Although these are mainly cos people dont believe anything legal will work properly and just take all the pills in the pack. I think these have now been taken off the market but will still be available in some places.
L.U. Summer Daze are my favourite one, doves just last too long.
quietRIOT
29-08-2008, 12:29 PM
Yeah, i took them as it said ...one and another 2 hrs later...and drank water all night ,,.like i said , i Danced all night til about 9am...hahaa...and honestly no come down at all...now if id gone out and had a couple of so called ecstacy i would have felt like death warmed up the next day and not half as energetic on the night...£10 for 3 is pretty good....
Like yous were saying. if you get an idiot, who drops all 3 within and hour or 2....or they drink alcohol on em ,,,they are gonna be ill......
will def be buying them for september night out...!:love:
fishpaste
07-09-2008, 04:52 PM
i took a few pills that acording to the stall owner would get me tripping but done nothing to me. saying that i have smoked herbal spliffs that get me pretty lean. i got them all at camden m.
Dasein
08-09-2008, 06:56 AM
I looked at the London Underground website - 98% of the stuff there is illegal in the US. Sucks...All the so called legal highs (except for Salvia, which we get in pretty high quality) that show up here are total bullshit.
The common denominator appears to be BZP in the unavailable in the US stuff...Yet another reason to make a trip over there!
process
08-09-2008, 09:37 AM
I looked at the London Underground website - 98% of the stuff there is illegal in the US. Sucks...All the so called legal highs (except for Salvia, which we get in pretty high quality) that show up here are total bullshit.
The common denominator appears to be BZP in the unavailable in the US stuff...Yet another reason to make a trip over there!
BZP is fucking rank anyway mate i wouldnt be too sad about losing that one!
Dasein
09-09-2008, 06:43 AM
BZP is fucking rank anyway mate i wouldnt be too sad about losing that one!
Maybe I'm just too open to new experiences...I hear 'legal highs' next to unsolicited positive reviews and the first thing that comes to mind is "gimme some!"
process
09-09-2008, 10:46 AM
Maybe I'm just too open to new experiences...I hear 'legal highs' next to unsolicited positive reviews and the first thing that comes to mind is "gimme some!"
each to thier own i guess, my thought on bzp are that its similar to crap speed, the high isnt as good as speed, but it seems to last just as long if not longer and you feel fucking gruesome on the comedown, worse than a base comedown imo :yakk:
elretardo87
09-09-2008, 12:11 PM
each to thier own i guess, my thought on bzp are that its similar to crap speed, the high isnt as good as speed, but it seems to last just as long if not longer and you feel fucking gruesome on the comedown, worse than a base comedown imo :yakk:
Why is everyone obsessed with BZP its not in any of the new pills.
process
09-09-2008, 12:58 PM
i was just replying to daseins post mate.. there is also still loads of sights trying to push stupidly cheap bzp for 'research purposes' before the law completely rules it out.
Dasein
09-09-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm not obsessed with it at all...I just thought the pills that had been mentioned earlier in the post were also the ones that had BZP in them on the LU website. Crap speed I can do without, but if I could get legal pills that get me off and don't cost 20per, I'd be stoked.
process
09-09-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm not obsessed with it at all...I just thought the pills that had been mentioned earlier in the post were also the ones that had BZP in them on the LU website. Crap speed I can do without, but if I could get legal pills that get me off and don't cost 20per, I'd be stoked.
are pills 20$ in america now? when i was over there they were only 10$, i say only, but thats still pretty steep compared to uk prices... the ones in the us were a lot better than the ones over here tho even if we did get warned not to buy out there cause all the pills are pricey and shit.
Dasein
10-09-2008, 07:05 AM
Eh...20 for a get off is steep as hell, even if our pills are better - which is a more than a little shocking, btw...the story goes that all of our pills are smuggled in from The Netherlands via Canada and then NY, so I always assumed you guys just had a direct pipeline with the source. Should = cheap and good...
Last time there were really good pills here, though - last one I had anyway - was...I think they were blue dolphins. I rolled my balls off. Must have been about two years ago. Before that, the best ones that I ever saw - didn't take any, sadly...the whole party was fucking FLOORED - were the stop signs. Looked amazing, but the ex - wife wasn't with it. That was, ah, like seven years ago or so.
process
10-09-2008, 08:50 AM
sorry mate think i misunderstood you thought you'd said in your previous post that they were 20per pill.... they are pretty cheap over here, but mostly they are wank ones with hardly any md in them..
quietRIOT
10-09-2008, 11:00 AM
how do you know process you tried em all ? like i say them i had were bloody ACE !!!
process
10-09-2008, 01:31 PM
how do you know process you tried em all ? like i say them i had were bloody ACE !!!
i was talking about the illegal variety.
Dasein
10-09-2008, 11:03 PM
sorry mate think i misunderstood you thought you'd said in your previous post that they were 20per pill.... they are pretty cheap over here, but mostly they are wank ones with hardly any md in them..
No....you had me right. We pay 20/ when attending parties or whatever...a spur of the moment situation , for example, when we can't pick and choose...I just agree that it's steep. Best to know someone or just be a rockstar...every good dj should know a friendly pharmacist...:wink:
We do get fairly good stuff, though. WTF are we talking about again? I'm in class and I'm not following either very well...
An American raver friend of mine had some pretty glowing reviews of some west-coast e. Good MDMA content and nice combination of uppers as an enhancer as opposed to something to cut it with. Made me jealous:crazy_dru
As I understand it shit's a hell of a lot more expensive, but you get more bang per pill, as long as you don't wind up with bunk pills. Meth is supposed to be a pretty popular substance to pass off as e/dilute pills with because of how cheap it is, which isn't supposed to be nice at all.
mrschingchong
11-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Meth is supposed to be a pretty popular substance to pass off as e/dilute pills with because of how cheap it is, which isn't supposed to be nice at all.
what crystal meth ?:yakk:
what crystal meth ?:yakk:
Yeah. It's dirt cheap and it's a stimulant, so of course it goes in. Except it's not like e at all ane people come home from the stressful and unfun party and have to clean their houses for the next 24 hours straight, or whatever.
mrschingchong
11-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Yeah. It's dirt cheap and it's a stimulant, so of course it goes in. Except it's not like e at all ane people come home from the stressful and unfun party and have to clean their houses for the next 24 hours straight, or whatever.
isnt crystal meth psychicaly addictive? i heard that its huge in the states, the people who use it look pretty nasty though, doesnt tickle my fancy im afraid
isnt crystal meth psychicaly addictive? i heard that its huge in the states, the people who use it look pretty nasty though, doesnt tickle my fancy im afraid
Extremely. It also has a tendancy to make you forget to engage in any hygenic activities for the duration of the extremely long high, including sleeping.
''Meth sores'' are from excessive sweating that meth causes, which isn't cleaned off, dries and peels the skin, which causes pustulating sores. ''Meth teeth'' are because meth dries out your mouth and rots your teeth in it's smokable form, which means since you don't clean your teeth, they fall out, go brown, etc.
Here's a photo series; it's anti drug propoganda, but frankly, if any drug deserves anti drug propoganda, it's meth. Nasty, nasty shit.
http://www.methmadness.com/addictfacesofmethL.jpg
Diceface
11-09-2008, 09:29 PM
http://www.methmadness.com/addictfacesofmethL.jpg
pffff! looks like a halloween mask advertisement
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