heroin helped me

[everlastuk]

hi there,
ive had a shoulder injury now for nearly 10yrs and i have such low energy levels, sum days i dont even want to get out of bed. Doctors beleive the injury was due to a boxing and sports which may have caused the injury but to this day cant diagnose me with a medical condition, so am left mind boggled with what and how to explain to people what i have. Anways i went through a phase of 4 month trying heroin and i couldnt beleive how much it helped me get back to my feet, i started taking it because i felt low and depressed and saw a friend taking it and used to see the effects it had on him, how he would change from being all snappy and moody to up and ready for anything. so after taking it a few times i relised i wasnt aching or feeling tired or low etc i even started playing basketball hrs on end like i used to before my shoulder injury i couldnt beleive the effects, my muscles werent getting fatigued either i was actually getting in to really good shape, working out regularly things were getting so good i was changing into someone i used to be, i was able to do things without even feeling any pain, even family at home couldnt beleive i was feeling so well.But as with all drugs i had to stop my use of herion due to not being able to afford to feed the habit. Now that am clean from the drug, im struggling getting that full of life feeling where i can get up pick up a basketball and hit the courts for hrs on end, and the feeling to get in the gym and do a good solid workout without muscle fatigue, instead am gettin the old feeling back where i used to just stay in bed aching from head to toe tiredness etc i really hate this, but i really dont want to go back to taking heroin, as much as i used the drug to aid me back onto the love of my life (basketball, boxing and working out) i just cant go back onto it, is there anyone out there who can explain to me or break down wot i was experiencing and is there a cheaper safer legal way of getting that feeling back i dont care if i dont get a high i dont want no highs i just want the pains to go so i can do wot i love best.
thank you very much

p.s just out of curiosity could morphine be the drug which gave me all that effect? not sure if heroin contains morphine, just taking a guess.

[DiscoTeam]

take some neurophen and bomb a biiiiiiiig lump of base, play basketball for days!

[DaftFader]

heroin and basketball ... intersting combination ... there is a legal drug i have heared of called ....kratom .. used it my self and it did nothing much but make me feel tired ... i checked up on the dosage and did a pretty small one ... apparently its a realy good legal smack substitute .. and is used as such in certain countrys ... but it is fucking well addictive ... on a par with opium mby ... so watch out if you decide to go down this route ... it is un regulated .... and you might just be opening up another can of worms ... make sure you research it first .. look deep into it .. and see if it makes sence for you ...

[DaftFader]

ps. i am not a medisanary of any kind so dont just take my word for it look into it your self .. as i may make mistakes :group_hug

[Tank Girl]

p.s just out of curiosity could morphine be the drug which gave me all that effect? not sure if heroin contains morphine, just taking a guess.


have you spoken to your GP honestly about the pain you are experiencing and how it is debilitating, as resoting to smack seems quite extreme ?

(as in -- all the additional complications that can come from using it...)

you may ask to be refered to a pain clinic where they are specialists at dealing with pain managemnet - every hospital has one

rather than get your self an illegal smack habit and addiction,
they can look at non physically addictive options such as steriod injections (and alternatives) straight in the the muscle / joint,


they may look at opiated pain relief (legal- morphine based) but I know quite a few people who have had this and got themselves a nice little legal habit, and ended up getting a physical and psychological dependance to these,

and in a few cases needed help from their local drug team to be detoxed, as their GP or clinic just keep prescribing.....

over the counter pain relief can be codiene and paracetamol prepairations - however if you have built up a tolerance they may not even touch the sides





let us know how you get on :group_hug


also you may want to look at your life in a holistic way and see if there are other areas in which you want to improve it - as I just find it extreme that you would use 'H' when pretty much all of know where it leads.................... and its not a good place

[Playground Politics]

personally i wouldnt rely on anythings(drugs relate) and id give u the same advice!

[everlastuk]

have you spoken to your GP honestly about the pain you are experiencing and how it is debilitating, as resoting to smack seems quite extreme ?

firstly thanks for all the replies, basically over the yrs ive had numerous mri scans on my shoulder and neck, ive had the nerve and muscle test twice, ive had physiotherapy, ive had acupunture and ciropractice over the years ive tried alot things ive never really sat back and just tried to live with the pain, doctors cant seem to find the problem and sometimes come across as they dont really give a damn, the one thing that really scares me and it could be the cause of everything, is ive not had a any kind of examination of the head, its just so scary to find out theres a problem with the brain etc, my next step is to get a brain scan not sure if you guys agree with me there. Anywas if i wanted to get relief via morphine wot would be the best way to go about asking my doctor cause ill be honest he just dont seem to care he most of the time assumes am ok and i can live with it.
hope to hear from you guys soon
thank you

[DiscoTeam]

in all seriousness, i do hope you get your issues sorted, probably best to stay away from using smack to deal with it.

[Tank Girl]

Anywas if i wanted to get relief via morphine wot would be the best way to go about asking my doctor cause ill be honest he just dont seem to care he most of the time assumes am ok and i can live with it.


this is difficult - as if a doctor thinks your 'drug seeking' as in opiates they will put it on your file,

a family member of mine who has a major problem with prescribed meds (was told by his doctor if he actually needed the ammount he is on - he shouldnt be able to walk - however the GP carried on prescribing him!!!! ) has an alert if he goes to A&E etc with do not prescribe opiates - however as he is a 'suit' he now goes private after being referred to the local drug team

the best thing to do is ask for a referral to the pain clinic and see what they say - but going down the opiate route can lead to some dark places....

[everlastuk]

this is difficult - as if a doctor thinks your 'drug seeking' as in opiates they will put it on your file,

a family member of mine who has a major problem with prescribed meds (was told by his doctor if he actually needed the ammount he is on - he shouldnt be able to walk - however the GP carried on prescribing him!!!! ) has an alert if he goes to A&E etc with do not prescribe opiates - however as he is a 'suit' he now goes private after being referred to the local drug team

the best thing to do is ask for a referral to the pain clinic and see what they say - but going down the opiate route can lead to some dark places....


so would you suggest not mentioning about taking heroin in the past to my GP? and just explain the pain am in is getting worse and to ask for a referrel to the pain clinic?

[Raj]

Get a referral to a pain clinic - sounds like you have explored everything else. Good luck - Constant pain is exhausting :group_hug

PS has your doctor offered you anti-depressants as they may have a positive effect on your pain [they do on mine - the difference between wanting to get up and do things on a couple of pain tablets a day as opposed to chewing them all day and still hurting badly.] [Mine is a back and shoulder injury so its possibly similar]

[JonnyQuest]

u tried ganja my man sworn by world over from the dawn of time to be the best pain medicine going

[MrAHC]

df118 is a better option (dihydrocodine) its a morphine salt whereas heroin is diamorphine and much more adictive than dihydrocodine. heroin is a right cunt to control, you should be able to get df118 off your doctor with abit of blagging.

[elretardo87]

apparently its a realy good legal smack substitute .. and is used as such in certain countrys ... but it is fucking well addictive .

Nah its not really...I know loads of people who take it everyday and when we didn't have any in the shop for two weeks they were hardly climbing the walls.

[Playground Politics]

personally i wouldnt rely on anythings(drugs relate) and id give u the same advice!

sorry im talking outta my ass, didnt read ur thread properly, if u do have pain seeing a doc is the best thing to do

[everlastuk]

Nah its not really...I know loads of people who take it everyday and when we didn't have any in the shop for two weeks they were hardly climbing the walls.

ive just been doin some research on kratom and so far ive liked what ive read, i would be really interested in knowing what other people who have taken kratom experienced? also does kratom do long term damage? has anyone had a similar problem like mine and benifited from kratom?

thanks in advance guys

[MrAHC]

ive just been doin some research on kratom and so far ive liked what ive read, i would be really interested in knowing what other people who have taken kratom experienced? also does kratom do long term damage? has anyone had a similar problem like mine and benifited from kratom?

thanks in advance guys
i been doin smack on n off for over 15 years and can honestly say that df118 is your best option thats dihydrocodine. its availible from doctor n on the black market. dont go lookin for weird n wonderfull drugs that no one knows to much about stick to whats availible and tryed n tested.

[everlastuk]

i been doin smack on n off for over 15 years and can honestly say that df118 is your best option thats dihydrocodine. its availible from doctor n on the black market. dont go lookin for weird n wonderfull drugs that no one knows to much about stick to whats availible and tryed n tested.

is dihydrocodine also called dyrocodone (vicodin)? i did forget to mention ive took co-codamol for a long time its 8mg codiene and 500mg paracetomol, but ive grown a real tolerance to it and basically it dont do nothing at all for me now however it did used to do wonders for me, i was wondering wud dyrocodone benefit me more?
is it less harmful than co-codamol?

thanks

[MrAHC]

is dihydrocodine also called dyrocodone (vicodin)? i did forget to mention ive took co-codamol for a long time its 8mg codiene and 500mg paracetomol, but ive grown a real tolerance to it and basically it dont do nothing at all for me now however it did used to do wonders for me, i was wondering wud dyrocodone benefit me more?
is it less harmful than co-codamol?

thanks
its usualy 20mg codine hydrocloride without the paracitamol. theres a way of extracting the codine out of co-codamol its on a drugs website somewhere. paracitamol is harmful to your liver so stay away from it.

[everlastuk]

[quote=MrAHC;229930]theres a way of extracting the codine out of co-codamol its on a drugs website somewhere.quote]

thanks for that reply,i have been reading up on extracting the codeine, its called "cold water extraction" but what really confuses me is 30/500 co-codamol would give a reasonable euphoria but on some of the how to's online it explains crush upto 10tabs which equals 300mg of codeine once extracted from the paracetamol, now if i a30mg in co codamol gives a gud sensation for numbing pain etc would 300mg give a high soo bad it would cause damage? sorry if this is a silly question just never ever heard of this procedure til now.
thanks

[MrAHC]

you got to remember morphine and its derivitaves arent going to realy harm you unless injected so you'll probbly just be floored or very monged out by a huge dose of codine.

[everlastuk]

you got to remember morphine and its derivitaves arent going to realy harm you unless injected so you'll probbly just be floored or very monged out by a huge dose of codine.

but the dose which im gonna attempt is 48mg(6 co-codamol) tablets
would that ammount be ok? or should i start with a even lower dose?

thanks

[e_babes]

I have to echo the same comments about pain management.

Depending on the country you are in will depend on whats on offer.

Heroin does has morphine in but only once when mixed with an acid and water which makes diamorphine.

Even drugs such as Oxycontin, Vicodin etc are huge problems in America and was thought to be an excellent cure for pain management. Regretfully, the internet is full of web sites dedicated to people who suffer from drug addiction courtessy of the local doctor.

Using an illegal substitute for your pain management I can seriously understand and relate too in a big way but you are on a slippery slope downwards and if you don't seek assistance in the normal manner you will end up on a methadone programme with even more pain (its called withdrawell)

Seek propper medical attention as you have over the period of time - your condition is serious and has affected your life and will. I echo the words of Raj and Tank Girl (speaking from personal experience)

[Diceface]

fuck dat been reading this page and it has been another great example as to why i will never ever touch fucking smack, it cant be worth it surely!