Valium v Xanas v Temazepam

[aeknisie]

hey everyone,

I was wondering what people on this forum thought was the benzo to take on comedowns to take the edge off. I about to get either one of those (valium v xanax v temazepam) and was wondering which one would be best?

:love:

thanks for any replies:)

aeknisie

[Tank Girl]

valium v xanas v temazepam

I dont know what xanas is over here .. (uk)

I googled it and got some hairy fanny come up :yakk: and couldnt be arsed to look any more

but I'd guess IMO temazies could be good if you want knocking out / sedating but vallium better if you wanna nice come down buzz

[aeknisie]

sry, i meant xanax;) lol

[Tank Girl]

I really dont think we get that one over here,

have heard of xanax (mainly reading 'american psycho':wink:) but not seen it prescribed here

[process]

but I'd guess IMO temazies could be good if you want knocking out / sedating but vallium better if you wanna nice come down buzz

thats what i reckon too, even tho i voted for xanax by mistake...

ive got a presription by the way mr officer.:obey:

[DaftFader]

diazipam (valium) is the best thing if you don't wan't to knock your self out compleatly ... and just get rid of the bad come down :bounce_fl

[Playground Politics]

i find that having a straight mind and being emotionally stable helps the comedown

[DaftFader]

i find that having a straight mind and being emotionally stable helps the comedownso i am doomed to have bad come downs for ever then :cry::laugh_at:

[Dom_sufc]

i find that having a straight mind and being emotionally stable helps the comedown

Wish I could say the same. Comedowns piss me off, i always fret about things lol.

I find comedowns worse after Ive had a few hours sleep though. But before I sleep, I usually have a smoke. Sorts me out :)

Ive never thought to try Valium for a comedown before though.

[DaftFader]

Wish I could say the same. Comedowns piss me off, i always fret about things lol.

I find comedowns worse after Ive had a few hours sleep though. But before I sleep, I usually have a smoke. Sorts me out :)

Ive never thought to try Valium for a comedown before though.i have known a few people that have done that on a pill come down .. and they recon its well good .. i only tryed it on a coke come down .. and boy did it fucking help ... only problem is i know people who have done thae same thing with smack and got hooked on it as a result .. if you do pills all the time .. then its not an easy way out of come downs as you will end up getting hooked on benzoes wich is far worse than a pill come down imo ...

[General Lighting]

my dad was addicted to benzos (and they may have done his kidneys in) and thats whats always put me off doing them

not just the risk of a chronic illness but the feeling I would be "turning into my Dad"

by taking a comedown drug you are substituting one addiction for another

I stopped having bad comedowns after 2002 (although I didn't exactly become a goody two shoes :wink:) - all I needed to do was pace myself properly, not get hammered every weekend and ensure other stuff in my life (such as work, etc) was as good as it could be and not a cause of further stress

[Tek Offensive]

ensure other stuff in my life (such as work, etc) was as good as it could be and not a cause of further stress

think thats pretty important, ive been blowing most of my money on chang recently and its a shit feeling not being able to sleep with the added worry of knowing your gonna have a shit month finacially. :hopeless:

ive never tried valium or xanax but have used temazepam recently and that lets me sleep within half an hour with a 20mg dose no matter how much im still buzzing.

[DaftFader]

think thats pretty important, ive been blowing most of my money on chang recently and its a shit feeling not being able to sleep with the added worry of knowing your gonna have a shit month finacially. :hopeless:

ive never tried valium or xanax but have used temazepam recently and that lets me sleep within half an hour with a 20mg dose no matter how much im still buzzing.20mg is alot for most people ... 5or10mg should do the trick ... but if that dont work .. take more i guess lol:laugh_at:

[Benzo]

Give me Valis any day of the week. I think xanax is banned in UK, connected with lots of suicides.

[n.r.g]

all of the above no medals 4 bravery when it comes to comin down but not together mind u

[e_babes]

Erm Guys,

Don't forget body mass - bigger and fatter the person the more they probebly would need.

If I was a first time user of valium i'd take 20mg for a comedown.

Xanax is supposed to be 5x's stronger and it acts quicker but it doesn't last as long (the half life is a lot shorter) and just if not as more addictive than vallies.

Temmazzies are way down the list for addiction. They are habbit forming but nowhere near as bad as the other two which are benzos. I think tamazepam are classed as a Hypnotic - however, I dont get much off the tammies now. I do have a stash off 2 of these "Types" of drugs for "emergency" uses somewhere.


* e_babes winks at the room

Has anyone tried 30mg Temazepams? :laugh_at: They are much better than expected

Oh, yes back onto subject

Xanax if its a 2.0mg tab take one, perhaps half. if its a 1mg tab take one, perhaps 2, if its a (I think 0.25 or 0.5mg) then well, what can I say?

Also let me know if you get what they call "GATOR BARS" - YUMMY!!

OH, ANY ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOL - I MEAN IT. NO ALOCOHOL. BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING YOU IN A COMA - GOT IT?



PLUR

THE MEDICAL ADVICE YOU HAVE JUST READ IS AN OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO USES PRESCRIPTION DRUGS TO GET HIGH/LOW. THIS HAS NOT COME FROM A PRACTICTIONER OR QUALIFIED EXPERT. IF YOU ARE PRESCRIBED THESE DRUGS, THEY CAN BE HABIT FORMING. PLEASE TAKE AS DIRECTED AS PER YOUR PSHYSISIAN.

[process]

how dangerous on a scale of 1-10 is drinking and taking vallies/temazzies etc? cause, and im not trying to show off or whatever but ive took loads of each when ive been properly pissed after a night/morning out. probably like 100mg+ is the most, not all at once but spread out a bit, but ive not died yet, maybe ive just been v.lucky. i know they say you can go into a coma, but people can also have a heart attack from one line of coke, just wondering what the actual truth is cause obvious;y the safty labels have got to say stuff like that to cover their own back...

[GiantMidget]

Haha, hairy fanny!

[DaftFader]

Haha, hairy fanny!did you just look down and type what you saw? :laugh_at:

[e_babes]

how dangerous on a scale of 1-10 is drinking and taking vallies/temazzies etc? cause, and im not trying to show off or whatever but ive took loads of each when ive been properly pissed after a night/morning out. probably like 100mg+ is the most, not all at once but spread out a bit, but ive not died yet, maybe ive just been v.lucky. i know they say you can go into a coma, but people can also have a heart attack from one line of coke, just wondering what the actual truth is cause obvious;y the safty labels have got to say stuff like that to cover their own back...


Mixing alcohol with benzos such as vallium would only exacerbate the situation. The alcohol would make the benzo appear to be stronger. However, the risk is quite low say 4/10. Obviously, if you vomit whilst asleep then your putting yourself at more risk.

Mixed with other drugs such as heroin this is a scale of 9/10 for danger due to overdose and tolerance.

See, you can never actually die from a benzo overdose - its when you mix benzos with other substances that actually increase the chances of getting a free taxi to hospital.

Remember the old rule when your at a party? Tell your friends what drugs you have taken and how much to drink you have had and if anything happens to you then someone can tell the ambulance?

And if no-one has heard of that before then the scene has changed for the worse.

:cry:

[Nadz]

careful with mixing downers, especially booze. i know of someone who died in his sleep from mixing/taking loads, i've heard it was xanax+ket+valium+booze.

[Tank Girl]

Dependence At low doses within the therapeutic range, tolerance does not develop to any great extent and only small increases in doses are reported over time. But among street users who are using large amounts, tolerance to the sedative effects (but not to the calming effects) develops rapidly and doses escalate.

Dependence can also develop quickly and some people report withdrawal symptoms after only four weeks' use at therapeutic (low) doses. People vary in the severity of symptoms they experience. Among long-term and heavy users, panic attacks, feelings of unreality, distortion of perception, sweating, restlessness and tremor are common.

Sudden withdrawal from benzodiazepines is dangerous as seizures can occur. Therefore withdrawal from the drug should be gradual and conducted under medical supervision. Withdrawal from benzodiazepines can be distressing because symptoms often last for many months. Long-term use The effects of long-term use of benzodiazepines include mental confusion, memory loss, depression, aggressive behaviour and loss of physical coordination.

Injecting with dirty or used needles can cause serious infections like hepatitis B, blood poisoning and HIV infection. Injecting crushed tablets or jelly (from green capsules) can cause serious circulation problems and in some cases, loss of limbs. Overdose risk Death from overdose is rare with this group of drugs because large doses are needed but the risk increases if benzodiazepines are mixed with other "downers" like opiates, barbiturates or alcohol.

the risk is depression of breathing, so using other ' depressants' like alcohol increase the risk of OD

[JonnyQuest]

heroin helps with the comedown

[d.r.e.a.m]

Temmazzies are way down the list for addiction. They are habbit forming but nowhere near as bad as the other two which are benzos. I think tamazepam are classed as a Hypnotic - however, I dont get much off the tammies now. I do have a stash off 2 of these "Types" of drugs for "emergency" uses somewhere.




as far as i no temmazzies are still benzos and are still habbit forming same as nitrazepam,lorazepam,lormatazepam,flunitrazepam apart from these are all classed as tranquelizers were as valium (diazepam) are sedatives which as e_babes says wont knock you straight out but will take care of the worst of come downs,tho in my experiance i have seen people just ko on 10mg of valium so it depends on who you are i supose.

also in my experiance i find valium go damn nice with uppers you get a floaty happy buzz of the vallies an a nice rush of the mdma.

Not something to get into to much tho as gl said they will give you 1 nasty habit!

[redneck]

jellies all the way for me.:crazy:
i remember sliding off the couch onto the floor and into a deep sleep after a good pill and a temazapan.
last thing i did was sing 'flipper, fipper, the bush kangaroo' apparently :crazy_dru

[e_babes]

jellies all the way for me.:crazy:
i remember sliding off the couch onto the floor and into a deep sleep after a good pill and a temazapan.
last thing i did was sing 'flipper, fipper, the bush kangaroo' apparently :crazy_dru

You can still buy yellow eggs - but rarely in the UK - :cry:

[redneck]

You can still buy yellow eggs - but rarely in the UK - :cry:
we used to get the green eggs off the tramps in london, 4 for a quid.

my mate hid some in the garden on easter morning for us to find after getting in from a raindance party and miraculously we found them all :weee:

[Tank Girl]

my mate hid some in the garden on easter morning for us to find after getting in from a raindance party and miraculously we found them all :weee:

now that sounds like a good easter egg hunt :wink:

[smokeitup]

my mums off on a 10hour flight to mexico next week.. shes worried coz she wont be able to have a fag. so ive offered to get her some bluies to help take the edge off of things.. but i was thinking maybe they wouldnt knock her out (like she wants) so how about Nitrazepam? i know a guy who conning the government left right and centre and has loads of prescrips.. any ideas?

[redneck]

my mums off on a 10hour flight to mexico next week.. shes worried coz she wont be able to have a fag. so ive offered to get her some bluies to help take the edge off of things.. but i was thinking maybe they wouldnt knock her out (like she wants) so how about Nitrazepam? i know a guy who conning the government left right and centre and has loads of prescrips.. any ideas?
most people do 10 or 20mg of valium on long trips in thailand or india or on the flights there and back.
10mg will nearly always knock me out if i'm a bit tired.

[smokeitup]

*sigh* id forgotten how much fun vallies can be.

[Cab]

Benzos are kind of boring on their own, but with a little alcohol (and fuck, I really mean a little, like three bottles of beer or a couple of shots) you can totally lose all inhibitions.

This can be nice, but man, most people (myself included) are kind of total assholes without any kind of inhibitions. So it's a combination of drugs that I don't really like.

[smokeitup]

woopsie...

didnt wake up in time for work this morning..

maybe 3 vallies at 4am when u have to be up at 7am isnt such a good idea..

[e_babes]

3? :laugh_at:

I remember the times of popping 20 and still staying awake!

Not anymore though - tolerance gone well down, perhaps a few on a regular basis 2-3 10mg and thats it.

Keeps me chilled out all day and a good sleep at night

[wingman]

Erm Guys,

Don't forget body mass - bigger and fatter the person the more they probebly would need.

If I was a first time user of valium i'd take 20mg for a comedown.

Xanax is supposed to be 5x's stronger and it acts quicker but it doesn't last as long (the half life is a lot shorter) and just if not as more addictive than vallies.

Temmazzies are way down the list for addiction. They are habbit forming but nowhere near as bad as the other two which are benzos. I think tamazepam are classed as a Hypnotic - however, I dont get much off the tammies now. I do have a stash off 2 of these "Types" of drugs for "emergency" uses somewhere.


* e_babes;212938 winks at the room

Has anyone tried 30mg Temazepams? :laugh_at: They are much better than expected

Oh, yes back onto subject

Xanax if its a 2.0mg tab take one, perhaps half. if its a 1mg tab take one, perhaps 2, if its a (I think 0.25 or 0.5mg) then well, what can I say?

Also let me know if you get what they call "GATOR BARS" - YUMMY!!

OH, ANY ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOL - I MEAN IT. NO ALOCOHOL. BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING YOU IN A COMA - GOT IT?



PLUR

THE MEDICAL ADVICE YOU HAVE JUST READ IS AN OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO USES PRESCRIPTION DRUGS TO GET HIGH/LOW. THIS HAS NOT COME FROM A PRACTICTIONER OR QUALIFIED EXPERT. IF YOU ARE PRESCRIBED THESE DRUGS, THEY CAN BE HABIT FORMING. PLEASE TAKE AS DIRECTED AS PER YOUR PSHYSISIAN.
how you doing hope all is well. its all turned to shit for me back to were i was
but worse need your advice on a few things will be moving back to the uk soon will pm
you soon.

[Southcaver]

what are ultram's like for comedowns, anyone know?

[Diceface]

hey everyone,

I was wondering what people on this forum thought was the benzo to take on comedowns to take the edge off. I about to get either one of those (valium v xanax v temazepam) and was wondering which one would be best?

:love:

thanks for any replies:)

aeknisie


ive always fround upon all the kinds, i think the type of people who take these either have mental issues or are jus complete wreckheads who cant be arsed drinking to get drunk, lets face it, its effects are prety much the same as being drunk, its a lightweights drug imo.
a close m8 of mine who i knew since high school died from taking too many vallies whilst he was drunk, (he had also smoked a small small amount of brown) his heart slowed down so much that it just stopped, right there in front of me, twas a bad night that i'll never forget..

[Tank Girl]

what are ultram's like for comedowns, anyone know?

Ultram = Tramadol

is an opiate based pain killer,
so not a benzodiazepine like valium / temazepam etc on this thread

Tramadol can be addictive if used long term like any other opiate

[Southcaver]

Ultram = Tramadol

is an opiate based pain killer,
so not a benzodiazepine like valium / temazepam etc on this thread

Tramadol can be addictive if used long term like any other opiate



I see cheers, also is Xanax a benzowhatsit

[Tank Girl]

yeh it is - I've not head that brand name in the UK but have in the US

Alprazolam, also known under the trade names (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam#Availability) Xanax and Niravam, is a short-acting drug of the benzodiazepine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine) class used to treat moderate to severe anxiety disorders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_disorder), panic attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_attack), and as an adjunctive treatment for anxiety associated with major depression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder). It is also available in an extended release (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_release) form, Xanax XR. Both forms are now available generically.

[ev31]

Holy feck are you all giving your Dr's bribes??

[tartipants]

I tend to find that having a smoke and some alcohol works wonders. Sod having to down more pills! lol

[p0ly]

no need to bribe the dr when you have the internet. i use onlinepharmacylist.net to order my benzos.

cheers

looks good, but dodgy

[photographthesun]

Iv never taken a large dose of Valuium. Id like to change that.

[p0ly]

ive never taken it =(

could of once but thats another story

[p0ly]

true, but what website is actually free these days without looking dodgy? this particular one is free and only refers other sites. ultimately any website that requires a credit card to order, i'm fine with because if i don't get my order, i chargeback.

£300+ is the lowest price, dodgy as you cannot even buy a small amount to see if it turns up

[smokeitup]

whenever i have a valium i always listen to
cy2syg8puiE

[p0ly]

oxycontin =O

[drunkenclaire]

vallies for me
wanting to buy loads, anyone got a link they can pm?

[p0ly]

Online Pharmacy List - Online pharmacy drugs, no prescription (http://www.onlinepharmacylist.net/)

[JamZandwich]

polygon do you know if that site is legit?

[p0ly]

nope, i would not trust it

[drunkenclaire]

Online Pharmacy List - Online pharmacy drugs, no prescription (http://www.onlinepharmacylist.net/)


thankies
xx

[p0ly]

good luck..

[Diceface]

hahaaha