Security check for jobs

[spangle]

Just been offered a job today in warehouse for a company that makes those cards u put in sky boxes, but first they gotta do a security check to see I ain't been in trouble with the police (which I have) before I start, anyone know what this covers? Not sure if I'll pass coz have been given cautions / final warning for drugs twice, 2 X criminal damage & theft, but I've never been to court and given a conviction... Any ideas??

[General Lighting]

if it doesn't specifically say declare cautions you do not have to declare them.

I worked in the Civil Service for a central Government Department for 4 years, despite having cautions and being known to the local cops. (the Civil Service can get access to an individuals PNC record without going via the CRB)

for a private company to get anything else on you they usually need to go via CRB and this is done after you have been offered the job and for certain positions only (such as working with kids or dealing with large amounts of money or life/safety critical occupations),

They will ask for various bits of ID from you which they need to show to the Govt before they can get the info because of data protection laws.

private security firms can often use old newspaper archives to bypass the privacy/spent convictions laws, but cautions aren't recorded in the media (particularly for juveniles).

TBH it seems that all the place you are applying for wants to know is that you are honest and won't rob them.

[jack_daniels]

a policeman when cautioning me said not to say that i had a caution unless it was for a government type job. unless convicted

[DaftFader]

normaly it is only convictions that they will look for (if they even bother) .. but as they say they are checking then it will most likly be a conviction that will lose you the job ... if they ask "have you any criminal convictions" ..they meens have you been to court, been charged and sentanced for any offence .... this could be failing to pay a parking ticket or murder .... this does not inclued cautions or other such slaps on the wrist that don't envolve you going to court and actualy getting done for some thing ... (as GL sais) unless they specificaly ask you to "declare" that you have been cautioned ect.

[General Lighting]

a policeman when cautioning me said not to say that i had a caution unless it was for a government type job. unless convicted
Not even all govt jobs make you declare cautions (probably wouldn't have got mine if that were the case!). The place I work today (in the private sector) knows about my cautions but they are not an issue to my employers as I am otherwise trustworthy.

I've also been told by many senior civil service managers that unless what you have done is totally against the ethos of the department/agency (such as major theft/dishonesty), or you have been a violent thug or a feckless junkie, they are not bothered about minor indiscretions in your past life.

Most companies (public or private) just want to get some sort of reassurance that you won't nick loads of stuff from them, nor beat up a customer or work colleague during a bad day.

[globalloon]

the application form must say whether they are asking for convictions or for convictions and cautions

if you have been fined, given probation, community service, jail time or some other punishment, that is a conviction

a caution or being bound over by a magistrate is not a criminal record; cautions will only show on enhanced CRB checks... as GL says, these are only used when working with children or vulnerable adults or in 'sensitive' jobs

[spangle]

Thanks for the response seems all good, I'd just got a bit worried coz in the interview she said they'd done a check on someone else and it turned out they "had drug problems" so couldn't employ them n then started questioning me on drugs etc. if I'd been in trouble with the police (sat there lying through my teeth...) Thought it wouldn't look too good if they then found I'd been nicked a few times, but I didn't say anything because as said legally its only convictions that need to be declared

Fingers crossed start work on Monday!

Shift work though, n getting up at 5AM when I'm used to bein up all night & sleeping all day is not the one:cry:

[e_babes]

It looks like you and I had the same problem spangle.

All mine are now spent, but I still had the problem of WHAT IF. What If they digged deeper?

Well I started today and so far so good.

:love:

[DIONYSUS]

when i started my job they actually asked if i had any cautions and convictions. i thought it would be best to tell the truth and owned up to my caution. I got the job fine. I was worried about other times tho when i had been arrested & put on bail for months luckily that never made it to court & didnt show up on my crb check!

[lilmstrixta]

dont worry i had to have one for my place i have a couple of cautions but i got in ok didnt show up

[spangle]

Yep it was all good they phoned me yestday n I'm starting on Monday!
Looks like I might have to cut the weekends partying a bit shorter than normal if I'm gonna manage turning up n seeming half alive for my first day!

[lilmstrixta]

nice one hun well in

[Raj]

Think with most businesses they are looking for current convictions [which indicate an existing problem] and fraud convictions [which will make a lot of employers think twice ]

Congratulations spangle raaa

[spangle]

nice one hun well in
Cheers! Pretty chuffed tis the first bit of proper work in nearly a year, can't wait till first payday..

I think the main problem why the did the security check is coz loadsa people try n rob the sky viewing cards they make (did think about it lol but apparently they prosecute everyone and theyr not even worth anything coz they dont work yet)

[lilmstrixta]

was gonna say what would be the point in them robbing them as they dont work untill there registered to an account lol.

[spangle]

was gonna say what would be the point in them robbing them as they dont work untill there registered to an account lol.

Ennit, seems there's quite a few idiots in my town (already knew that one!)

[e_babes]

I'll give it six months spangle until you find a way to get them cards working!

:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

And luckily I'm still in my job too - Feels good doesn't it Spangle?

[spangle]

I'll give it six months spangle until you find a way to get them cards working!

:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

And luckily I'm still in my job too - Feels good doesn't it Spangle?

6 months?! Highly doubt I'll (manage to) stay there that long! Feels good to be working but the work itself so far is boring as fuck today I put 40,000 letters with new cards in boxes to be sent off.... Gonna try last a couple of weeks n then the agency can get me a better job.

And I reckon I am gonna find a way to get those cards workin :wink:

[lilmstrixta]

sounds too exciting stil easy money though like lol

[spangle]

sounds too exciting stil easy money though like lol

I can't contain my excitement, nothing beats getting up really early to pack letters in boxes for 8 hours :weee:

Will be wickid though when I get paid, n £6.70/hour which is better than most other temp stuff I've seen

[lilmstrixta]

Lol well at least your making money i work for agency really wanna get contract for where i work you get instant 7grand payrise lol

[Southcaver]

I can't contain my excitement, nothing beats getting up really early to pack letters in boxes for 8 hours :weee:

Will be wickid though when I get paid, n £6.70/hour which is better than most other temp stuff I've seen

Don't worry about it, think of the ££'s.

I once worked at a place putting red peppers in bags 8 hours a day, 6 days a week for £5 an hour:yakk:

[DJCliffy]

I can't contain my excitement, nothing beats getting up really early to pack letters in boxes for 8 hours :weee:

Will be wickid though when I get paid, n £6.70/hour which is better than most other temp stuff I've seen

How many hours you gotta do? :wink:

[e_babes]

How many hours you gotta do? :wink:

Well, I'd take a guess that you would like a card, me too and about 60% at least of PV. Say a tenner a card, thats pretty good money.

Oh, you said how many hours!!

:laugh_at::laugh_at:

* e_babes says over and over again

"THINK OF THE MONEY SPANGLE, THINK OF THE MONEY!!"

:laugh_at:

[JonnyQuest]

Don't worry about it, think of the ££'s.

I once worked at a place putting red peppers in bags 8 hours a day, 6 days a week for £5 an hour:yakk:

i do the same job only with cd's and only get 5.52 so u should be over the moon

[spangle]

i do the same job only with cd's and only get 5.52 so u should be over the moon

Yeh tis the money that makes it worthwhile, just don't help I'm a lazy bastard & get bored easy!

As for the cards ATM I've just been sending out replacements to other countries one's for some random foreign company, should be doing some sky one's soon though, so looking in to how it all works..