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regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 08:14 PM
Almost eight years ago, I lost my faith in God. My grandmother [whom I lived with until her death], was dying and I prayed every night for nearly twenty minutes, just begging God, "Please, let her get through this; I don't know what I'd do without her..."

I know that in prayer, God doesn't always grant them, it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

So, after eight years, I've decided it was time to try and find a religion [not Christianity].

Suggestions?

lilmstrixta
25-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Personally i follow paganism very loosly now though,i was really into it when i was younger i no lomger go around and doing solcists ect i just follow the basic principles like what ever you put out comes back 3 fold, just basic balance everything happens for a reason.

DJCliffy
25-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Personally i follow paganism very loosly now though,i was really into it when i was younger i no lomger go around and doing solcists ect i just follow the basic principles like what ever you put out comes back 3 fold, just basic balance everything happens for a reason.

I agree with ya i'm into the same sort of beliefs, My family hate me for it tho and i swear they wanna burn me at the stake soon!:yakk:

lilmstrixta
25-01-2008, 08:51 PM
I agree with ya i'm into the same sort of beliefs, My family hate me for it tho and i swear they wanna burn me at the stake soon!:yakk:

awww thats a shame it makes me laugh how people can be so standofish against it seeing as it has been round longer that christianity.

regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 08:56 PM
I know what you mean. I have a lot of spiritual beliefs, such as reincarnation, karma, the hindi caste system..
My best friend Mellinna said she'd take me to the Buddhist temple her father goes to and translate the monks' lessons for me..and I'm super interested...
I don't know.

General Lighting
25-01-2008, 08:56 PM
dunno if is a cultural thing (regurgitron being from the USA) but although brought up as a Catholic I have never felt I needed official religion in my life.

hard to explain maybe but I feel whatever happens is more about how you act on earth rather than prayer/meditation and stuff.

That said I just live in a way where I try not to do anything too evil or hurt anyone without reason, and find if you do positive stuff it does help you in the end...

DJCliffy
25-01-2008, 08:57 PM
awww thats a shame it makes me laugh how people can be so standofish against it seeing as it has been round longer that christianity.

Yeah i know but when it comes to religion people can be fucking silly with it!:wink: Right i'm off to sacrifice half a gram of mandy to the nines! raaa

tarifa
25-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Almost eight years ago, I lost my faith in God. My grandmother [whom I lived with until her death], was dying and I prayed every night for nearly twenty minutes, just begging God, "Please, let her get through this; I don't know what I'd do without her..."
I know that in prayer, God doesn't always grant them, it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

So, after eight years, I've decided it was time to try and find a religion [not Christianity]. Suggestions?

First, sorry to hear about your nan but i'm not sure it works like that does it?

if i've got u wrong i'm sorry but. . .

- it seems that you're looking for a faith but will not accept christianity because that god let ur nan die

- if the christian god let ur nan die (if it works llike that) then all the other gods/godesses/etc let her die too

- its almost like ur punishing the christian god because ur so pissed off with him/her/it (in which case you arguably still believe)

my advice would be to read a load of books on as many different religions as you can. BUT i would have to say that faith isn't a matter of theoretical picking and choosing is it?

isn't faith about something you feel is right?

lilmstrixta
25-01-2008, 08:58 PM
I know what you mean. I have a lot of spiritual beliefs, such as reincarnation, karma, the hindi caste system..
My best friend Mellinna said she'd take me to the Buddhist temple her father goes to and translate the monks' lessons for me..and I'm super interested...
I don't know.

I'd go for it i would love to do that if i had the chance then again im kinda interestd in religon.

regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Until recently, I've been quite happy with my own independent beliefs, but call it morbid curiosity, I guess I just want to find out if I can be religious anymore.
There's a void, that I think maybe a religion will fill?

lilmstrixta
25-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Yeah i know but when it comes to religion people can be fucking silly with it!:wink: Right i'm off to sacrifice half a gram of mandy to the nines! raaa

I hate the sillyness of people.

regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 09:13 PM
First, sorry to hear about your nan but i'm not sure it works like that does it?

if i've got u wrong i'm sorry but. . .

- it seems that you're looking for a faith but will not accept christianity because that god let ur nan die

- if the christian god let ur nan die (if it works llike that) then all the other gods/godesses/etc let her die too

- its almost like ur punishing the christian god because ur so pissed off with him/her/it (in which case you arguably still believe)

my advice would be to read a load of books on as many different religions as you can. BUT i would have to say that faith isn't a matter of theoretical picking and choosing is it?

isn't faith about something you feel is right?

I never thought of it that way.
Yes, I am still pissed. She was the kindest person to walk this earth, and something let her die.
Plus, with all the christianity bullshit I've done in my day... [sigh]
Back when I still went to church, they would read all the stuff from the bible that condemned homosexuality, and I am pretty lesbian. It takes a special dude to get to me.
I just stopped going, because I knew I'd fight them, and I didn't really want to be shunned. I get enough of that from my mother.

Raj
25-01-2008, 09:14 PM
Until recently, I've been quite happy with my own independent beliefs, but call it morbid curiosity, I guess I just want to find out if I can be religious anymore.
There's a void, that I think maybe a religion will fill?

Perhaps instead of looking for the answers in religion you should look inside yourself? Your path will be unique to you and while it may be intertwined with others paths it is likely that it will only be exactly right for you :wink: therefore only you can find it IMO

regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Perhaps instead of looking for the answers in religion you should look inside yourself? Your path will be unique to you and while it may be intertwined with others paths it is likely that it will only be exactly right for you :wink: therefore only you can find it IMO

:wink: Thank you.

tarifa
25-01-2008, 09:22 PM
I never thought of it that way.
Yes, I am still pissed. She was the kindest person to walk this earth, and something let her die.
Plus, with all the christianity bullshit I've done in my day... [sigh]
Back when I still went to church, they would read all the stuff from the bible that condemned homosexuality, and I am pretty lesbian. It takes a special dude to get to me.
I just stopped going, because I knew I'd fight them, and I didn't really want to be shunned. I get enough of that from my mother.

there are all sorts of different takes on the meaning of life etc

i dont think you can expect a religion to make you whole, thats just using religion as a crutch isn't it?

still tis an interesting subject to study, so many different ideas

ever had a look at religious/philosophical stuff from some of Australia's aboriginal population? they have some very interesting ideas about birth an death

regurgitron2000
25-01-2008, 09:25 PM
I'll really have to look into that. :]

MrAHC
26-01-2008, 01:59 AM
Almost eight years ago, I lost my faith in God. My grandmother [whom I lived with until her death], was dying and I prayed every night for nearly twenty minutes, just begging God, "Please, let her get through this; I don't know what I'd do without her..."

I know that in prayer, God doesn't always grant them, it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

So, after eight years, I've decided it was time to try and find a religion [not Christianity].

Suggestions? I've always classed myself as a christian of the protestant failh. I take the bible as the true story of jesus who in my eyes was a freedom fightor of his time. Preying is for yourself and a time for contemplation on what is going on around you, its a time to atune yourself and bring yourself to earth.
Is god who it says in the bible? I dont know but when I prey Its for me to adress myself and i think about my ancestors who have passed away. Theres no gods and no masters just me and nature.. Though I still prey in an protestant church.....

globalloon
26-01-2008, 02:16 AM
organised religion is absurd and arrogant. men claiming to be representing "what god says"

what a senseless assertion

MrAHC
26-01-2008, 02:35 AM
organised religion is absurd and arrogant. men claiming to be representing "what god says"

what a senseless assertiondestroy the individual?

MisterDuck
26-01-2008, 01:34 PM
organised religion is absurd and arrogant. men claiming to be representing "what god says"

what a senseless assertion

innit. and it's fucking immoral a lot of it. the aids crisis in africa could be almost grind to a halt if the vatican would just say contraception is ok

to the thread starter, why do you need a religion? i'm agnostic myself, but at the end of the day i dont care, we're not gonna find out the answers anytime soon so why think about it so much?

the one religion i would consider though is buddhism.

regurgitron2000
27-01-2008, 03:58 PM
innit. and it's fucking immoral a lot of it. the aids crisis in africa could be almost grind to a halt if the vatican would just say contraception is ok

to the thread starter, why do you need a religion? i'm agnostic myself, but at the end of the day i dont care, we're not gonna find out the answers anytime soon so why think about it so much?

the one religion i would consider though is buddhism.

Yeah, I consider myself agnostic as well. I just feel that at the end of the day, it wouldn't hurt to put my faith in something. My best friend is actually take me to temple with her [she's Buddhist] one of these days and translate the monks' lessons.

tarifa
27-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Yeah, I consider myself agnostic as well. I just feel that at the end of the day, it wouldn't hurt to put my faith in something. .

you could put your faith in people :wink:

funkydan
27-01-2008, 10:02 PM
personally i believe in buddhism you can learn alot about life and nature from it also if you like spirituality look at shinto a japanese religion where everything has a spirit

Tank Girl
28-01-2008, 06:43 AM
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Greb
28-01-2008, 04:28 PM
To those of you interested in Buddhism:

I quite liked to sound of Buddhism because i guess I perceived it as different to other major religions. I spent a little time in Dhramsala (dalhi lama's residence) last year, even got to see him (from a great distance!)

But it all seemed the same as the other religions to me. The people (while very nice) didn't seem particularly enlightened or happy + I saw lots of monks looking very bored during long prayer sessions. reverence and idolisation of the lama seemed just like christian worship of christ to me. I think it has some great philosophy about it (which can be said of every religion), but there still seemed to be far too much dogmatic BS in the way too (also can be said of every religion).

Thats just my limited experience with one school of buddhism though, there are many more.

regurgitron2000
28-01-2008, 05:36 PM
you could put your faith in people :wink:

I have less faith in humanity than I do an attention span lol

cheeseweasel
28-01-2008, 06:47 PM
Sorry to be blunt but IMO its all bollocks. Fair one to anyone who is religious tho, i guess people have different ways of dealing with their insecurities.

tarifa
28-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I have less faith in humanity than I do an attention span lol

:wink: but there are a hell of a lot of decent people out there :wink:

regurgitron2000
28-01-2008, 10:05 PM
:wink: but there are a hell of a lot of decent people out there :wink:

Far and few between, but I'm lucky enough to have them as friends. [You guys here seem pretty wicked, yourselves :group_hug]

JonnyQuest
29-01-2008, 12:34 AM
until religion is gone the world will not develop to its full potential

regurgitron2000
29-01-2008, 12:57 AM
Ya got a point there, mate.