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process
18-01-2008, 10:52 AM
i cant remember who posted it, but i cant seem to find the thread.
Just wanting to find out what is called when your brain seems to find coincidences on its own, im not really explaining this very well.
An example is when u say split up with someone and all the songs u hear on the radio are about moving on or splitting up and all you seem to see everywhere are happy couples etc... i think it may have been TG that posted the wiki link actually thining about it...
hope that made sense...
Cheers.
Tank Girl
22-01-2008, 04:19 AM
i cant remember who posted it, but i cant seem to find the thread.
Just wanting to find out what is called when your brain seems to find coincidences on its own, im not really explaining this very well.
An example is when u say split up with someone and all the songs u hear on the radio are about moving on or splitting up and all you seem to see everywhere are happy couples etc... i think it may have been TG that posted the wiki link actually thining about it...
hope that made sense...
Cheers. just seen this thred -
dont know if I did think it may have been Tarifa?
- but was wondering if this could be something similar?
Coincidence is the noteworthy alignment of two or more events or circumstances without obvious causal connection. The word is derived from the Latin co- ("in", "with", "together") and incidere ("to fall on").
The index of coincidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_coincidence) can be used to analyze whether two events are related. A coincidence does not prove a relationship, but related events may be expected to have a higher index of coincidence. From a statistical perspective, coincidences are inevitable and often less remarkable than they may appear intuitively. The odds that two people share a birthday, for example, reaches 50% with a group of just 22[1] (http://www-micro.msb.le.ac.uk/1010/1011-19.html) (see the Birthday paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_paradox)).
In The Psychology of the Psychic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Psychology_of_the_Psychic) the author David Marks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Marks_%28psychologist%29) describes four distinct meanings of the term "coincidence". Marks suggests that coincidences occur because of "odd matches" when two events A and B are perceived to contain a similarity of some kind. For example, dreaming of a plane crash (event A) would be matched by seeing a news report of a plane crash on the next morning (event B).
In optics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optics), coincidence is also used to refer to two or more incident beams (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incident_beam&action=edit) of light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light) that strike the same point at the same time.
Remarkable coincidences sometimes lead to claims of psychic phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_phenomena) or conspiracy theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory). Some researchers (see Charles Fort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fort) and Carl Jung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung)) have compiled thousands of accounts of coincidences and other supposedly anomalous phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_phenomena) (see synchronicity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity)). The perception of coincidences often leads to occult or paranormal claims. It may also lead to a belief in fatalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism), that events are pre-destined to happen in the exact manner of a prior plan or formula. This lends certain events an aura of inevitability.
Déjà vu (pronounced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation) /ˈdeɪʒɑː ˈvuː/ (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/En-uk-dejavu.ogg) (help (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help)·info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:En-uk-dejavu.ogg)); French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) /deʒa vy/ (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Fr-d%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu.ogg) (help (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help)·info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fr-d%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu.ogg)) "already seen"; also called paramnesia, from Greek παρα para, "parallel" + μνήμη mnēmē, "memory") is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has repeated itself). The term was coined by a French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France) psychic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic) researcher, Émile Boirac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_Boirac) (1851 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1851)–1917 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917)) in his book L'Avenir des sciences psychiques (The Future of Psychic Sciences), which expanded upon an essay he wrote while an undergraduate. The experience of déjà vu is usually accompanied by a compelling sense of familiarity, and also a sense of "eeriness", "strangeness", or "weirdness". The "previous" experience is most frequently attributed to a dream, although in some cases there is a firm sense that the experience "genuinely happened" in the past. Déjà vu has been described as "remembering the future."
The experience of déjà vu seems to be very common; in formal studies 70% of people report having experienced it at least once. References to the experience of déjà vu are also found in literature of the past, indicating it is not a new phenomenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenon). It has been extremely difficult to invoke the déjà vu experience in laboratory settings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment), therefore making it a subject of few empirical studies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_studies). Recently, researchers have found ways to recreate this sensation using hypnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_ja_vu#_note-0)
process
22-01-2008, 09:36 AM
no thats not the same, still interesting tho.
Its the way that your brain seems to look for things that fit the mood its in if you know what i mean.. so if your friends have gone travelling there seems to be loads of songs about that or u seem to notice travel agent shops everywhere. Or if your in a sad mood every song seems to relate to that mood by being seeming to directly relate to your individual situation.
Know what i mean?
timid rabbit
22-01-2008, 12:29 PM
Too right mate, when me and the first serious g/f split every song I heard, every statement in a book, every scene in a film was talking to me PERSONALLY. It was awful and at one point I really felt i was going mad.
Looking back it was the best thing that could have happened for me, but at the time it was really shitty.
i don't know what its called though http://www.skinheads.org.uk/modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
DaftFader
22-01-2008, 12:35 PM
yeah i know what you meen .. i used to get it in extream when i used to smoke weed alot ... but in the normal sence of things like if you have never heard of something befour then you hear about it from 3 diferant places unrelated in the same week by chance (that excludes things like news storys ect.)
process
22-01-2008, 12:53 PM
U also sort of get it if u visit a new place or meet some1 from a place u havent heard of before. Then suddenly all u hear about is news about that place or people who are from that place etc etc...
timid rabbit
22-01-2008, 12:55 PM
U also sort of get it if u visit a new place or meet some1 from a place u havent heard of before. Then suddenly all u hear about is news about that place or people who are from that place etc etc...
the drugs are working
process
22-01-2008, 01:32 PM
......and not on drugs.
so stfu! ;)
timid rabbit
22-01-2008, 01:40 PM
......and not on drugs.
so stfu! ;)
meoooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
DaftFader
22-01-2008, 01:41 PM
meoooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
na dj p ... he was saying his drugs have started working .. :laugh_at:
he now thinks he is a cat :you_crazy
Tank Girl
22-01-2008, 05:42 PM
? this it ?
Ideas of reference
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Delusions of reference involve people having a belief or perception that irrelevant, unrelated or innocuous things in the world are referring to them directly or have special personal significance. Ideas of reference should be distinguished from delusions of reference and they are an exaggerated form of self consciousness, usually driven by social anxiety.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
The two are clearly distinguished in psychological literature. People suffering from ideas of reference experience intrusive thoughts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts) of this nature, but crucially, they realize that these ideas are not real. Those suffering from delusions of reference believe that these ideas are true.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
In their strongest form, they are considered to be a sign of mental illness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_illness) and form part of a delusional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion), paranoid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia) or psychotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic) illness (such as schizophrenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia) or delusional disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder)).
They may include experiences such as:
feeling that people on television or radio are talking about, or talking directly to them
believing that headlines or stories in newspapers are written especially for them
having the experience that people (often strangers) drop hints or say things about them behind their back
believing that events (even world events) have been deliberately contrived for them, or have special personal significance
seeing objects or events as being deliberately set up to convey a special or particular meaning
tarifa
22-01-2008, 08:20 PM
? this it ?
Ideas of reference
Delusions of reference
hey djp, TGs right this is the stuff i reckon
(i got ur post but pm-ing me would be easier/surer in future poss?)
the whole point of delusions is that the person is actually convinced that these are messages for them specifically - the rest of us know its wierd coincidence
JonnyQuest
22-01-2008, 10:31 PM
my brain doesnt work, not the way it should
process
23-01-2008, 08:13 AM
hey djp, TGs right this is the stuff i reckon
(i got ur post but pm-ing me would be easier/surer in future poss?)
the whole point of delusions is that the person is actually convinced that these are messages for them specifically - the rest of us know its wierd coincidence
yeah thats what i was talking about, nice one. yeah maybe pm next time...its so weird how your brain works.
tarifa
23-01-2008, 08:15 AM
its so weird how your brain works.
gee thanks djp, an you dont even know me!
process
23-01-2008, 08:31 AM
gee thanks djp, an you dont even know me!
not your brain ;)
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