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r1cky1
26-12-2007, 08:49 PM
be n1ce if we could mention rig names for charging at doors (id give you more if you came round with a hat for the fuckin rig). Its suposed to be free party not pay party.

Score some points for how bolshey crews who run the partys are.

Some points for who keeps the most ketmim away and suports the xstasy tablet.

More points for who gets the most totty at the partys.

Iam rating my local rigs as they knows how to put on a fat ass party 'wiltshire 'barks 'west oxfordshire these local crews know how its done.

Comes down to this i aint travelling for a ripper unless i know its gonner be a ripper know more.

Few peeps might have sumit to say about this 'say it only voice'in a few things ive seen along the way.

MisterDuck
26-12-2007, 08:53 PM
or lets not name a loada rigs. or say how bolshy they are. or give a bad impression/associate rigs with certain incidents or areas.

my favourite rig is crimestoppers, its a fat party.

MrAHC
26-12-2007, 09:01 PM
I rate my crew coz were the best coz we dont take ourselves seriously at all. Anything goes so long as everyone has a good time, no attitudes, no egos, no snobbery.

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 09:19 PM
just wanted to have some feed back wether its ok to put rig names here ....?

MisterDuck
26-12-2007, 09:21 PM
just wanted to have some feed back wether its ok to put rig names here ....?

well there are a lot on wikipedia anyway

i wudnt put how bolshy or whatever they are

but i'd wait for a mod to answer

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 09:23 PM
yeah true ... i was only gonna put my few favs anyways:wink: .. so few i like most are

[EDIT]

Angel
26-12-2007, 09:25 PM
just wanted to have some feed back wether its ok to put rig names here ....?

I don't think you should


Better safe than sorry :group_hug

r1cky1
26-12-2007, 09:27 PM
not 1 E in the building & ran out of petrol on the way home boxing day morning not good. i was on lsd and yes it was a total headfuck had to walk 8 miles for petrol. Fair play to this muslim blokey givin us a lift back to the car. Took pitty on us at 4.30am
Didnt speak a word of english but was all help. Thanks too you

Yes iam gonner get a rippin for this you may laugh.
but you try and find a petrol station thats open boxing day morning.
Had 1/4 of a tank when started lookin for more fuel but there was none open.. Anxwax i live another day.

Angel
26-12-2007, 09:30 PM
If you were on LSD and totally headfucked you shouldn't be driving at all :hopeless:

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 09:36 PM
sry angel i was editing that post when you replyed .. want me to take it down?

r1cky1
26-12-2007, 09:38 PM
no don't think i was or maybe

Angel
26-12-2007, 09:43 PM
sry angel i was editing that post when you replyed .. want me to take it down?I think you should please :wink:

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 09:46 PM
there ya go :group_hug

la-la
26-12-2007, 09:47 PM
i rate my team cuz wev got the :laugh_at: boom diggity ;) lol!

Angel
26-12-2007, 09:47 PM
there ya go :group_hug


:group_hug

r1cky1
26-12-2007, 10:30 PM
:you_crazy e
Serious mindless nonsence

(Good rig name that)

process
26-12-2007, 11:18 PM
I rate my crew coz were the best coz we dont take ourselves seriously at all. Anything goes so long as everyone has a good time, no attitudes, no egos, no snobbery.

raaaraaaraaa

process
26-12-2007, 11:21 PM
be n1ce if we could mention rig names for charging at doors (id give you more if you came round with a hat for the fuckin rig). Its suposed to be free party not pay party.

Score some points for how bolshey crews who run the partys are.

Some points for who keeps the most ketmim away and suports the xstasy tablet.

More points for who gets the most totty at the partys.

Iam rating my local rigs as they knows how to put on a fat ass party 'wiltshire 'barks 'west oxfordshire these local crews know how its done.

Comes down to this i aint travelling for a ripper unless i know its gonner be a ripper know more.

Few peeps might have sumit to say about this 'say it only voice'in a few things ive seen along the way.

slaggin of crews i think isnt the way forward. Most people know which crews know how to put on a good party and have a safe crowd, and also which crews just wanna cause trouble.

Support the good crews, and try and avoid the rest.
and for the record i dont mind stickin a couple of quid in for a good night (pound for sound!)

Also i dont rate a party by how much 'totty' is there i go there for the music and vibe not trying to pull some girls if i wanted that id go to the city centre!

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 11:23 PM
yeah i thought that when i posted my last post.. my bad :wink: .. it's summing you just tell your friends not post on forums

General Lighting
26-12-2007, 11:34 PM
if you slag off crews in public, the people who lurk here to get info for the cops can use that info against the crews.

I know none of you on here would willingly grass, but doing this may inadvertantly have that effect with so many people what disagree with raves "lurking in the shadows" on forums like this (plus there are journalists who feel its their crusade to "help the cops deal with antisocial behaviour")

Remember "canoe man"?

we may not think we have much in common with a disaffected ex-prison officer in his middle years, but the reality is that although cops were looking for him, they didn't have enough evidence to justify an arrest..

First his picture was put in the papers, then an ordinary member of the public found more evidence on line, contacted the authorities, and within days he was nicked. You are now easily accountable for the effects of what you put on line, they can affect yourself and others...

DaftFader
26-12-2007, 11:37 PM
yeah .. rigs names should only be put onto a post on a public forum by the owner / members (of the crew) them self/ves ... even if nothing bad is being said about them as it may bring unwanted attention to them!!! ....

and you could be tied in with what ever they might be doing ...

think b4 you type ....:group_hug

General Lighting
26-12-2007, 11:49 PM
Also i dont rate a party by how much 'totty' is there i go there for the music and vibe not trying to pull some girls if i wanted that id go to the city centre!

when blokes start rating a party in this manner it has a counterproductive effect. Many girls prefer raves to townie clubs because they haven't got blokes constantly trying it on with them..

There are lots of fit girls at "Norfolk" raves, but their numbers are actually dropping because many are experiencing a lot of sexual harrasment at parties, and they are tired of seeing the fights (with cops and even between ravers) - girls tend to grow up quicker than us blokes do and they start losing the desire to take so many risks with their lives, especially if the parties are becoming same as townie events!

But if you are running a positive party without people trying to prove themselves you will get a good mixture of people of all genders and backgrounds.

some of the girls said they wanted to start up a rig with more females running it and DJing. (I think I may have drunkenly offered myself up as a "rig slut" if they did do this, I look way younger than I actually am and can help with shifting the boxes and getting stuff working) :laugh_at:

MrAHC
26-12-2007, 11:50 PM
theres crews i woul & wouldnt work with for verious reasons but i wouldnt say on a forum as its counter productive.

DaftFader
27-12-2007, 12:00 AM
yeah about the rig with mostly female crew .. i like the idea of it ... im a guy .. but i hate the fact that in sport .. for instance .. there are just blokes playing .. thinkgs shoud be more mixed imo ... after all .. blokes who play football proffeshanaly (god dam spelling again) ... are bigger girls than real girls are xD ..oh noes he knocked me .. im gonna fall on the floor and scream .. :laugh_at:but in all hounasty .. i enjoy listerning to female dj's there arn't nearly equal amounts of them to guy dj's .. and it seems all that more special cos of that reason ...tho in saying that female dj's should be as adverage as male dj's ... it would just make every thing more mixed and fairer

MrAHC
27-12-2007, 12:04 AM
i'm actualy scared of women at free partys so i just st up then hide in a van. i also never go to partys that my rigs not at and just sit in my local pub. :love:

spark_plug
27-12-2007, 01:20 AM
:bitter:still think ur a fed

DaftFader
27-12-2007, 01:21 AM
:bitter:still think ur a fed

the guy who wrote this thread???

spark_plug
27-12-2007, 02:33 AM
the guy who wrote this thread???

yeh

General Lighting
27-12-2007, 09:14 AM
nah I've chatted to ricky a few times

he's just a bit older (my sort of age group) and was last partying at a more innocent time in the early 2000s.. Back then crews hadn't pissed off so much of the normal community so they could "shout a bit louder" online about what they got up to. We could easily have got away with a thread like the one he has tried to start in 2002-2004, in fact I'm sure that in our archives there are similar threads.

Ricky just found someone he loved and decided to start a family, and now with the kids a bit more grown up he wants to party again, and has come back to a far more paranoid and sketchy scene in the space of just 5-6 years..

I encounter loads of people in this situation these days - TBH many of them give up partying because their partners stop letting them out or they can't get childcare as easily and the kids come first, but at least some of the older people want to get back into partying.

And although we do need to be security aware, TBH I very much doubt the cops would bother with an expensive and chancy deep cover operation (with the risk of a young detective being sucked into drugs use which is what happened "back in the day"!) to get info about noisy gatherings that people even photograph and upload to the public internet.

If there is any deep cover investigative stuff going on on this scene (and I still think its highly unlikely) it would be targeted at those who are "proper villains" i.e. if they were serving up tons of drugs and doing burglaries of places to fund their rig, rather than most teenage/20 something ravers.

process
27-12-2007, 12:26 PM
when blokes start rating a party in this manner it has a counterproductive effect. Many girls prefer raves to townie clubs because they haven't got blokes constantly trying it on with them..

There are lots of fit girls at "Norfolk" raves, but their numbers are actually dropping because many are experiencing a lot of sexual harrasment at parties, and they are tired of seeing the fights (with cops and even between ravers) - girls tend to grow up quicker than us blokes do and they start losing the desire to take so many risks with their lives, especially if the parties are becoming same as townie events!

But if you are running a positive party without people trying to prove themselves you will get a good mixture of people of all genders and backgrounds.
Last few parties ive had to rescue a few of my female mates by going over and saying im their boyfriend etc. Its really annoying can seriously put your night on edge when you've got some pricks lurking around perving on girls. I dont know if there ever have been any rapes at parties, but it could happen if you think about it. girls wonder off on their own to go for a wee in the dark and some pervy creep follows them. I think if i found out that, that had happened at a party i had been at i would seriously question taking my g/f to anymore or going to anymore myself. Lets hope it never happens.:hopeless:

r1cky1
28-12-2007, 01:17 AM
right the girley thing - my ladie goes to nearly every rave with me when i say totty that was wroung word.
I mean ladies. company for the ladies that do go like my misses usally its me 2 male pals the misses & my nieace.
So dont get me wroung i aint no perv
Just think it would be good for the scean. And i have a little girl and anytime spare i wanner end up at a blinder. ravein has been my life since 15 and i likes to think i have a good 8 yrs to do what i love with a passion alittle more 1989 i got involved with this. 18 years i have loved this thing called rave and till the day i die along with meany other people.

I have'nt mentioned a crew and noway
I would i suport any 1 that gets out at the weekend and loads a vechile with a tone or 2 of music equipment.

To be fair i should have thought before i typed this thread i just had a bad time not even at thd party just thought by the way it was advertised it was gonner be massive. Travled 100 miles there and back 200 miles total.
And i paid once to get in then another lad jumped on me said i had'nt paid thought it was gonner be a situation that i really would'nt have wanted then 5 mins l8tr same door m8 telling a party goer if he didnt have his 45 bucks by the end of the night he was gonner get it. Pull m8ty aside and have a quiert word in private. No need for that. Aparantley it kicked of with some kind of fight by the end of the night & i cant say iam surprised.
Nice & friendly thats the way it should be. Safe propper.

This is the only party i have been to in a year that has made me feel like this so sorry i should have thought before i typed

Cheers genral lighting for your suport on this. i didnt mean to sound a bad guy here.
And if you feel this thread should go then please be my guest to do so.
I dont wanner fuck anything up with journose & laws so please do whats right scrap it get rid please
Think before i txqe neyt time...

MrAHC
28-12-2007, 01:20 AM
your going to burn in the hell that is squatjuice now r1cky1 (http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=5096) :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

spark_plug
28-12-2007, 01:30 AM
i feel bad for doubtin u now!
sorry man:group_hug

r1cky1
28-12-2007, 01:43 AM
i dont even bother with spuat juice have'nt vistited that place for about a year must have been a spwat juice ketmin party i ended up at...

Lmfookinao...

DaftFader
28-12-2007, 05:48 AM
yeh
i thought this at first as well ....

quietRIOT
28-12-2007, 04:39 PM
name rigs...omg ..silly thread maker:laugh_at:

General Lighting
28-12-2007, 06:38 PM
until 2004 you could name rigs, DJ's, what your mates got up to on any forum - here, SJ, DSI or anywhere else and no one got any hassle whatsover off the feds...

it wasn't that the cops weren't lurking even then but raves were seen as mischief rather than anti social behaviour or even serious crime and the problems with mindless damage/venues being rinsed hadn't become so apparent.

its only because raves became a "victim of their own success" in some areas and there was a backlash from normal people who demanded more action against them (and a response from the cops) that we have to self-censor ourselves so harshly...

Anyway Ricky didn't name any crews, admitted his mistake and although I may have worded things differently myself, I don't see a problem with him sounding off about some real issues that occured at the party he went to (which others have mentioned in another thread that may be about the same event).

TBH if I had spent time, money and energy travelling 100+ miles to a party with a bad atmosphere where incidents of violence occured I would be equally pissed off and wanted to sound off about it - indeed I have done so many times in the past on here.

I have seen various similar incidents at parties this season myself (even in "fluffy" East Anglia) - if its not some beef with the cops, its some idiot trying to flex and front and prove themselves just like in the "townie" scene.

IMO the people who are causing the trouble and spreading any sort of hate/anger at parties are far worse and doing more damage than anything the cops can do. (The increasing trend towards violent incidents at all social events (even legal ones) hasn't gone unnoticed by the authorities either..)

General Lighting
29-12-2007, 07:15 AM
Last few parties ive had to rescue a few of my female mates by going over and saying im their boyfriend etc. Its really annoying can seriously put your night on edge when you've got some pricks lurking around perving on girls. I dont know if there ever have been any rapes at parties, but it could happen if you think about it. girls wonder off on their own to go for a wee in the dark and some pervy creep follows them. I think if i found out that, that had happened at a party i had been at i would seriously question taking my g/f to anymore or going to anymore myself. Lets hope it never happens.:hopeless:
There is harrasment and low level sexual assault / unwanted advances at todays free parties - it is worse than what it used to be like but still but no worse than what happens in conventional nightclubs.

In 17 years I am not aware of a confirmed serious sexual assault at any unlicensed party. I heard rumours of one incident at a London party in 2002 or so but nothing confirmed.

Also since the early 1990s I have also heard regular rumours of this happening at licensed commercial rave events, but never seen it reported on "confirmed" sources like local news media or Police press release websites. (That's not to say there are not unreported incidents)

That said, I have read and still read a lot of crime news reports from across London, SE England and Eastern England (mostly to monitor the way raves and drug use is policed) and if there was a major safety risk to girls/women at raves I'm sure the media would have seized on it.

Girls/women are a lot more clued up, if they feel that unlicensed parties no longer present a safe or pleasant environment to them or are no better than going out on the town (where there is at least CCTV, cops and other venue security staff) plus they feel marginalised or treated as "sex objects" they will and do just stop attending (after all they can save on fuel costs plus the risks of hassle with cops)

This leads to raves being dominated by single young men and couples (and then the boyfriends understandably get angry when other blokes try and compete for their partners, and a vicious circle of more sexual tension and violence). Also many of the 20-30 something ladies today just seem content with the "safer" nightlife where people go to monitored places and go back home at normal hours (or many are actually not going out at all and studying or looking after their families if they have them)

303loopy
29-12-2007, 11:35 PM
women with top rig what a forward thinking idea, no ego well no testosterone or very little at least a dream cum true. what happens when we all get in synk? a mix

MrAHC
29-12-2007, 11:43 PM
I honestly feel un easy around girls at free partys for some reason. I'm not jokeing.

suffolkravas
30-12-2007, 01:35 AM
I honestly feel un easy around girls at free partys for some reason. I'm not jokeing.

hehe i feel uncomfortable FOR the girls at free parties nowadays! there are so many fuckin leches and pervs runnin around tryna get with girls who are on so much K and E and acid that they don know whats goin on! i have had to pretend a couple girls were my cousin or girlfriend to get them away from guys that were tryna come onto em when i could tell they didnt want them there! its a lot better out there though, im takin my girl to Together As One for new years eve and im quite worried because of the people mass, i hope some geez dont try n get on her when i aint lookin! i just want to take her for a good time, seems its not so easy to do nowadays :hopeless:

303loopy
30-12-2007, 01:42 AM
iam a ladie (girl) mashed loads of mens heads up with k, wached while they came round, not so diff thses days i'am sure we all need a k sitter

MisterDuck
30-12-2007, 02:03 AM
Anyway Ricky didn't name any crews,

Well he did but edited very soon after so it's all gravy.

r1cky1
30-12-2007, 02:46 AM
:wink:

r1cky1
30-12-2007, 02:53 AM
or what the crew it was.
Pm me the crew name whitch i suposed to have gave out boothy.
Intresting

But still no gravy

r1cky1
30-12-2007, 02:57 AM
if i did know how to edit would be handy.

MrAHC
30-12-2007, 03:11 AM
iam a ladie (girl) mashed loads of mens heads up with k, wached while they came round, not so diff thses days i'am sure we all need a k sitter
i wouldnt even aproach a lass at a party there all with fellas. had a lass come on to me at the last party we put on. she asked me to hold her hand and go for a walk with her i told her to fuck off as i thought she was with someone.

if i want to go out on the pull i'll go to a cattle market club its easy to speak to the lasses and easy to pull and theres nothing missinterpreted.

General Lighting
30-12-2007, 10:35 AM
i wouldnt even aproach a lass at a party there all with fellas. had a lass come on to me at the last party we put on. she asked me to hold her hand and go for a walk with her i told her to fuck off as i thought she was with someone.

this does happen as well, I've heard a few stories of blokes being cheated on at raves whilst they were in k-holes... and also girls who do have bf's flirting a bit with other guys (ended up in violence at one party I was at)

MrAHC
30-12-2007, 11:22 AM
this does happen as well, I've heard a few stories of blokes being cheated on at raves whilst they were in k-holes... and also girls who do have bf's flirting a bit with other guys (ended up in violence at one party I was at)
this was the lass of the guy who ran the other system we was teamed up with, at least i think it was. She could of just being friendly who knows.
another point is that i only chat lasses up when i'm drunk running a rig means i dont start drinking till 3-4 am so i have no confidence for chatting to lasses.

all in all our partys are a safe plase for lasses

process
31-12-2007, 12:57 PM
right the girley thing - my ladie goes to nearly every rave with me when i say totty that was wroung word.
I mean ladies. company for the ladies that do go like my misses usally its me 2 male pals the misses & my nieace.
So dont get me wroung i aint no perv
To be fair i should have thought before i typed this thread i just had a bad time not even at thd party just thought by the way it was advertised it was gonner be massive. Travled 100 miles there and back 200 miles total.
And i paid once to get in then another lad jumped on me said i had'nt paid thought it was gonner be a situation that i really would'nt have wanted then 5 mins l8tr same door m8 telling a party goer if he didnt have his 45 bucks by the end of the night he was gonner get it. Pull m8ty aside and have a quiert word in private. No need for that. Aparantley it kicked of with some kind of fight by the end of the night & i cant say iam surprised.
Nice & friendly thats the way it should be. Safe propper.

This is the only party i have been to in a year that has made me feel like this so sorry i should have thought before i typed

</p>if your ever up north pm me cause for the most all the parties are proper safe, hardly any trouble from police and ive never really experienced any dodgy situations. I may have just been lucky tho or have rose tinted specs on.

have good new year.

d.r.e.a.m
31-12-2007, 02:52 PM
right i aint guna name none but nines deffinatly the pic when you load up this site (the crews names in the middle..) but like people have said you can almost find every crews name on the net if tou look hard enuf..i mean put spiral tribe into google..but you do also have points better safe than sorry..:crazy_diz

MrAHC
31-12-2007, 03:03 PM
right i aint guna name none but nines deffinatly the pic when you load up this site (the crews names in the middle..) but like people have said you can almost find every crews name on the net if tou look hard enuf..i mean put spiral tribe into google..but you do also have points better safe than sorry..:crazy_diz
myself and one of our crew used to be with the T*W*A*T*S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

d.r.e.a.m
31-12-2007, 03:06 PM
myself and one of our crew used to be with the T*W*A*T*S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

are we talkin tribe of t.w.a.t.s or the original spiral cru???

MrAHC
31-12-2007, 03:49 PM
are we talkin tribe of t.w.a.t.s or the original spiral cru???
tribe of twats. travelers with attitudes..

jack_daniels
05-01-2008, 04:14 PM
There is harrasment and low level sexual assault / unwanted advances at todays free parties - it is worse than what it used to be like but still but no worse than what happens in conventional nightclubs.

In 17 years I am not aware of a confirmed serious sexual assault at any unlicensed party. I heard rumours of one incident at a London party in 2002 or so but nothing confirmed.

Also since the early 1990s I have also heard regular rumours of this happening at licensed commercial rave events, but never seen it reported on "confirmed" sources like local news media or Police press release websites. (That's not to say there are not unreported incidents)

That said, I have read and still read a lot of crime news reports from across London, SE England and Eastern England (mostly to monitor the way raves and drug use is policed) and if there was a major safety risk to girls/women at raves I'm sure the media would have seized on it.

Girls/women are a lot more clued up, if they feel that unlicensed parties no longer present a safe or pleasant environment to them or are no better than going out on the town (where there is at least CCTV, cops and other venue security staff) plus they feel marginalised or treated as "sex objects" they will and do just stop attending (after all they can save on fuel costs plus the risks of hassle with cops)

This leads to raves being dominated by single young men and couples (and then the boyfriends understandably get angry when other blokes try and compete for their partners, and a vicious circle of more sexual tension and violence). Also many of the 20-30 something ladies today just seem content with the "safer" nightlife where people go to monitored places and go back home at normal hours (or many are actually not going out at all and studying or looking after their families if they have them)

has been a recent case of sexual assault at party.


i blame the media and mostly ketamine for the change in the party scene