View Full Version : Sniffer Dogs & LSD?
Scouse
14-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Do you think they are trained to smell LSD? I know it's supposed to be odourless and everything but does that just mean that humans can't smell it? Maybe dogs can with thier sense of smell being 10000 times better than ours?
process
14-12-2007, 12:22 PM
I think they are trained to smell for the other main drugs. Weed/coke/pills etc. I know for a fact that theres at least one sniffer dog that cant smell lsd. ;)
spangle
14-12-2007, 01:04 PM
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-246415.html
some discussion on it, doesnt really give a straight answer but it seems unlikely! (and from my experience there's at least 1 more that cant :wink: )
Ruff Beat Provider
14-12-2007, 01:16 PM
Anyone know weather they been trained to sniff K? Someone told me they couldn't but it has quite a strong smell and it would't seem they'd have much trouble training them to.
Scouse
14-12-2007, 02:07 PM
Anyone know weather they been trained to sniff K? Someone told me they couldn't but it has quite a strong smell and it would't seem they'd have much trouble training them to.
I saw some guy on 'street wars' get caught out in Camden for having K on him. The dog sat right down in front of him and he fessed up to the police that ha had a wrap of K on him. However, I'm not sure about the accuracy of the narration as the narrator went on to say that K is a form of Anthetamine:you_crazy
Scouse
14-12-2007, 02:09 PM
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-246415.html
some discussion on it, doesnt really give a straight answer but it seems unlikely! (and from my experience there's at least 1 more that cant :wink: )
No it's not exactly clear is it. I've not come across bluelight before.
Some interesting discussion on there!
process
14-12-2007, 02:10 PM
Anyone know weather they been trained to sniff K? Someone told me they couldn't but it has quite a strong smell and it would't seem they'd have much trouble training them to.
The crystal k i find doesnt really smell at all. The freshly cooked stuff is a different matter tho, also i am not a dog.
General Lighting
14-12-2007, 02:39 PM
I expect the dogs are trained according to operational priorities in each force area, this would starts with heroin and crack, then moving on to party drugs including ketamine.
Ketamine now appears to be moving up the priority of drugs that cops are being asked to look out for because the NHS have been feeding back the problems its use is causing within society.
The cops will try to classify the exact details as "RESTRICTED" so drug users can't try make use of any loopholes. In many cases the mere presence of dogs are as much a deterrent - the dogs themselves get tired and often overlook users.
I expect in 5-10 years time they will move towards the electronic devices anyway.
elretardo87
14-12-2007, 02:52 PM
Dopgs can't detect LSD. I know this for a fact as my friend was stopped by a snifefr dog and they only found acid on his person so it was inadmissable as evidence as it was technically an illegal search.
K they can smell as another friend got huckled and strip searched going to New Zealand as he had an empty wrap in his pocket.
process
14-12-2007, 03:07 PM
[quote=elretardo87]Dopgs can't detect LSD. I know this for a fact as my friend was stopped by a snifefr dog and they only found acid on his person so it was inadmissable as evidence as it was technically an illegal search.
quote]</p>lucky fucker!
elretardo87
14-12-2007, 03:10 PM
Its ust about having a good brief.
Its why I never agree to be searched. i'll let them but never actually verbally agree until I'm at the station. If you just hold up your arms like they usually ask without actually saying yes they will often search you making it illegal.
Also if uyour in a club and bouncers catch you refuse to be searched and say you would rather leave the premises. They have no right to search you unless you want to stay in the club. Another of my mates got done with 200 e's this way and the case was dropped because the evidence was inadmissable as they had taken him out of the club and demanded to search him on the street outside and had not offered him the chamce to just leave.
(P.S this is all in Scotland so Scots law may diiffer slightly. Don't go being stupid on acocunt of this info. Security should be your number 1 priority so keep things as sly as possibly)
process
14-12-2007, 03:15 PM
Its ust about having a good brief.
Its why I never agree to be searched. i'll let them but never actually verbally agree until I'm at the station. If you just hold up your arms like they usually ask without actually saying yes they will often search you making it illegal.
Also if uyour in a club and bouncers catch you refuse to be searched and say you would rather leave the premises. They have no right to search you unless you want to stay in the club. Another of my mates got done with 200 e's this way and the case was dropped because the evidence was inadmissable as they had taken him out of the club and demanded to search him on the street outside and had not offered him the chamce to just leave.
(P.S this is all in Scotland so Scots law may diiffer slightly. Don't go being stupid on acocunt of this info. Security should be your number 1 priority so keep things as sly as possibly)
Still good stuff to know tho.
Scouse
14-12-2007, 03:29 PM
How risky would it be to take about 4 tabs on holiday? The drug laws in the country of destination are pretty damn strict but my friend can't stop thinking how amazing it will be to go tripping with his best mates and go island hopping with a speedboat in the Maldives...:love:
process
14-12-2007, 03:33 PM
just put them between the pages of a book or something... your risk tho... ;)
JonnyQuest
14-12-2007, 04:04 PM
How risky would it be to take about 4 tabs on holiday? The drug laws in the country of destination are pretty damn strict but my friend can't stop thinking how amazing it will be to go tripping with his best mates and go island hopping with a speedboat in the Maldives...:love:
i got speed to italy in my suitcase my friends and i deicde an all night ski session would be the best way to experience the mountains, however little did we know they turned the cannons on at night and have big vehicals polwing the slopes till morning, still though emptyd a bottle of hair gel and put the bag inside it
elretardo87
14-12-2007, 04:23 PM
How risky would it be to take about 4 tabs on holiday? The drug laws in the country of destination are pretty damn strict but my friend can't stop thinking how amazing it will be to go tripping with his best mates and go island hopping with a speedboat in the Maldives...:love:
FIrst tripping on a speedboat = shit. We almost died doing it. Good acid plus being in the middle of the sea does not mix well. You need to be sensible with acid as its one of the most dangerous things out there with regards accidents and the like.
I would reccomend if you are taking it abroad to buy liquid and drop it onto the pages of a book in an obvious place.
Crossword puzzles are good but I use the page numbers in the corner of novels.
Tank Girl
18-10-2008, 11:57 PM
Do you think they are trained to smell LSD? I know it's supposed to be odourless and everything but does that just mean that humans can't smell it? Maybe dogs can with thier sense of smell being 10000 times better than ours?
this 'dd team' (U.S I think) firm said:
All drugs detection teams are capable of locating all major illicit substances including heroin, cocaine, crack cocaine, ecstasy, amphetamines, lsd, marijuana etc.
I'm guessing not all dogs are trained on all substances - but I maybe wrong...
I've seen passive dogs stop and the belongings only had 'trace' -
I.e stuff had been in a bag / drawer but was no longer,
or lines been racked up and used on a CD's case and were not visable to the naked eye, even clothes retaining smoke from skunk being 'pulled' up for inspection
I'm presuming K is within this spectrum too as it's now so popular, the police would have just trained the dogs on it
One notable quality of detection dogs is that they are able to discern individual scents even when the scents are combined or masked by other odors. In one case at an Australian prison a detection dog foiled an attempt to smuggle drugs that had been hidden in a woman's bra and smeared with coffee, pepper and Vicks Vapo-rub
A sniffer dog's sense of smell is 2000 times more sensitive than that of humans.
They can even detect things (blood, etc.) that have been left for as long as 10 years. They can detect blood even if it has been scrubbed off surfaces. In one case, a sniffer dog sniffed a drop of blood on the wall that had been attempted to be scrubbed off. It was so small that it couldn't be seen without a microscope
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