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Playground Politics
16-05-2007, 11:26 AM
not that i have tried any chemical drugs, but only natural ones(at the moment), this is a quesiton that i forgot to ask right at the start of when i joined. Should we be putting all these chemicals into our blood stream, or doesnt it matter and its just doing the same damage as a paracetemol, or are natural drugs doing the same damage as chemies.
General Lighting
16-05-2007, 11:35 AM
not that i have tried any chemical drugs, but only natural ones(at the moment), this is a quesiton that i forgot to ask right at the start of when i joined. Should we be putting all these chemicals into our blood stream, or doesnt it matter and its just doing the same damage as a paracetemol, or are natural drugs doing the same damage as chemies.
I would suspect its all the same, and the damage can be mitigated by looking after yourself during the week - getting good food, catching up on sleep and getting sufficient exercise (this one can be the hardest I reckon)
If all the stuff the doctors/nanny state people said was true I should have long since been dead and never made it to age 30
the human body IMO is fairly resilient, but the mind needs to be looked after more when you start taking drugs..
PHARTY
16-05-2007, 12:39 PM
I would suspect its all the same, and the damage can be mitigated by looking after yourself during the week - getting good food, catching up on sleep and getting sufficient exercise (this one can be the hardest I reckon)
If all the stuff the doctors/nanny state people said was true I should have long since been dead and never made it to age 30
the human body IMO is fairly resilient, but the mind needs to be looked after more when you start taking drugs..Never a truer word spoken we are responsible for ourselves you really should take great care on what you take and how and not under any circumstances be an irresponsible binging idiot like Ive been it is only pure good fortune that Ive got be as old as I am,many many friends of mine with the same drug taking mentality or even not as bad as mine died a lot younger or are permanently scarred mentaly from being to frivolous with the old substance abuse and not giving it the respect its due by all means take and enjoy but give it a bit of thought do we really need to take so much?or if at all.:love:
Digital-A
16-05-2007, 12:51 PM
do we really need to take so much?or if at all.:love:
its the British culture, as with alcohol and everything else ... take as much as you can
PHARTY
16-05-2007, 01:15 PM
its the British culture, as with alcohol and everything else ... take as much as you canI lived on a quite bad (a real rough shithole)council estate loadsa druggies plenty of brown n rock and anything else that you wanted and in that area they still called me the drugs monster because of my(stupid:you_crazy)appetite for the substances and now when I look back I think what was that all about?As when I look at it my most happy times were with little or no substances dont get me wrong Ive had sum absolute mustard nites when Ive been completly wankerd and thats wot my trouble was I wanted it to be like that all the time so ended up hammered all the time....a little of anything is good but an excess of anything is bad apart from love+peace and scantly clad females wanting to do rude things to you:love::groucho:
Digital-A
16-05-2007, 01:17 PM
a little of anything is good but an excess of anything is bad apart from love+peace
:)
very true
:group_hug
Caralion
16-05-2007, 01:58 PM
good to hear some sense....
having tried my share of most things that way inclined I'm well at my best when i'm totally straight but feelin the vibe of the party and especially wiv some phat tunage. otherwaise it doesn't matter what i have then i don't feell like i've ad a good night. the more bollocksd you are the less reall it is. thats what it seems to me anyway. an why pay shit loads of money for the privalege?
Ruff Beat Provider
16-05-2007, 09:50 PM
Everything in moderation!!!!!
saying that i go over the top a-bit occasionally!:laugh_at: :laugh_at:
Playground Politics
16-05-2007, 11:41 PM
should everything be in the same moderation tho
miss bassets
17-05-2007, 12:34 AM
everything in moderation includin moderation!! i know i need to go crazy now n then :groucho:
not that i have tried any chemical drugs, but only natural ones(at the moment), this is a quesiton that i forgot to ask right at the start of when i joined. Should we be putting all these chemicals into our blood stream, or doesnt it matter and its just doing the same damage as a paracetemol, or are natural drugs doing the same damage as chemies.
as much as i can chat about how great it is to put something natural into my body, when it comes to shrooms and other such magical plants, arnt we still just essentially putting a poison into our bodies...
General Lighting
17-05-2007, 11:10 AM
as much as i can chat about how great it is to put something natural into my body, when it comes to shrooms and other such magical plants, arnt we still just essentially putting a poison into our bodies...
yes.
All "artificial" chemicals have natural sources, coal and oil are produced by natural phenomena..
Many of those "herbal highs" are just Chinese pharmaceutical chemicals intended for vet or agricultural use. They might be prepared to slightly higher standards than street drugs but they might not..
Playground Politics
17-05-2007, 11:38 AM
as much as i can chat about how great it is to put something natural into my body, when it comes to shrooms and other such magical plants, arnt we still just essentially putting a poison into our bodies...
Paracelsus, the father of toxicology once wrote: "Everything is poison, there is poison in everything. Only the dose makes a thing not a poison". so maybe it is up to moderation, and im getting so confused now between moderation and natural poison. so when does a natural substance, like magic mushrooms become a poison
ps got that quote off wiki ;)
Playground Politics
17-05-2007, 11:41 AM
In the context of biology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology), poisons are substances (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance) that can cause damage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damage), illness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illness), or death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death) to organisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organism), usually by chemical reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_reaction) or other activity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activity) on the molecular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular) scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism
another quote off wiki, so if a poison has to cause damage illness or death to orgasnisms, do drugs such as magic mushrooms, Herbal highs, mesc, kill cells, or organsims in our selves. or even does ecstacy, coke, cause death to cells, OR am i just thinking to much
Digital-A
17-05-2007, 11:43 AM
its a 'poison' to begin with ... but poison just means it isnt meant for the body, the extent of how bad it is for you depends on chemical, many mushrooms they say can kill when eaten raw in Britain, yet im still here.
the body is a remarkable thing
phogeyman
17-05-2007, 06:42 PM
its a worry isnt it !
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