Vinyl emulation

[Asdf]

A little while back I saw some pretty cool gear. It was some decks with two bits of vinyl that would play a signal and would be sent through this box that came with the decks and then in to your laptop so you can play MP3s as if they were actually being played on vinyl so you can scrtach, stop, start, rewind etc.

Anyone know what this gear is called?

[Space Master]

Dunno, but that's been a vision l have had for some time. I don't like the way a PC scratches sound, l reckon we would need someat like 10 GHz processors before we get the nice tight vinyl feel when scratching on a PC.

I'd like to get a link to this piece of kit too.

[General Lighting]

I think its called "Final Scratch".

not used it msyelf but it seemed popular with the SE England (Oxford) "Project Mayhem" crew and some of the Bristol crews when I was partying round that way...

[Digital-A]

I think its called "Final Scratch".


thats the one :weee: ... i was interested in using it ages ago just never got round to it

[Digital-A]

i only use stanton and vestax so herrre you go

http://www.stantondj.com/v2/fs/whatisfs.asp

cheers

[Space Master]

I was just reading about Final Scratch:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/archive/effects/2003-02/14784.php (http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/archive/effects/2003-02/14784.php)

"As you may or may not know, Final Scratch, and D-Vinyl 2020 are by far and away the best "vinyl record" emulators around. If you know how to work a pair decks moderately well, these suckers blow all other software attempts away. Let's face it, scratching with Analog X's stand-alone turntable emulator with a mouse, and no separate cross fade control is like scratching with one turntable with no backspin control or crossfader. In other words, you won't be winning any DMC contests any time soon, and you probably won’t impress your listeners either.

I've played around with both DV & FS, and although they aren't exactly like vinyl, they do have some advantages which make them pretty damn attractive to those lacking true turntablist skills.

In particular, D-Vinyl 2020 is by far the best for full integration with a conventional production set up. Unlike FS, DV2020 is a skipless controller, due to the fact that the record sends information regarding direction and speed only, rather than timecode to the computer. This is great for those who lack the finest skip-proof equipment (which typically is a pair of Vestax or Technics decks, with Shure needles), and the years of experience it takes to get the pressure just right to skratch skip-free. With DV2020, it doesn't matter if the needle pops out of the groove, because the second it lands back in, the music starts back up from the precise time when the needle popped out. No need to scrap a recording attempt because you got too zealous with the deck wreaking. Just a few cuts and pastes in an audio editor will make even the most inept studio producer sound like Q-bert."


There's a proper advert here:

http://www.stantondj.com/v2/fs/whatisfs.asp (http://www.stantondj.com/v2/fs/whatisfs.asp)

And Wikipedia even gives the full low-down on it:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Scratch

Apparently, Plastikman helped create it.

[Asdf]

Got it! It's not Final Scratch by Stanton, it's called Scratch Live by a company called Rane.

www.scratchlive.net (http://www.scratchlive.net)

[General Lighting]

reading a bit further, I think Stanton gave up on the product in 2006 but licensed the hardware and software for other manufacturers to use...

[BioTech]

Seratto & Rane Scratch Live is the most superior product of this type. There are a couple of others though. I was going to get it a few months back and still might. Only problem is I sold my laptop a year ago so I'd need to buy another (I'd probably get a mac for the stability)

If you go on the seratto site then there are plenty of demo vids in the forum. Good stuff.

[Asdf]

Yeah looks likes fun but do you know the price in pounds, I can only find US which is about $500 so I guess 300 quid???

[starlaugh]

I was sat reading through the catalogue of this site http://www.htfr.com/ The other day and i am sure i saw the things your on about for sale in there.

I was just dreaming that i could use any of the stuff raaa

[Asdf]

they have a CD one which is quite cool, I might buy it but I need to save for a stag doo - the CD version is just shy of 500 quid.

[Space Master]

How can a CD version work? Don't you need someway of sensing the direction of spin of the turntable?

[BioTech]

Scratch Live works with both vinyl and cd. Either format simply has a time code on it which sounds like a high pitched noise if played.

I think it's about £400. Not bad provided you have the laptop to run it on already.

[Space Master]

soz i thought u meant CD as in CDROM, i.e. a program disk only.