Not So Good - caution with DOIs / DO9s please!

[Ruff Beat Provider]

Heard a girl fitted and died last night at party cant find any info on the net. any one have any infomation????

[General Lighting]

not sure about any girl but two lads were taken from the party by ambulance after consuming an unknown susbtance (one of those 2-C* type drugs, some claim on SJ that is DOI ) and apparently remain in intensive care

[spangle]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6308895.stm

wasnt good to see, one guy was fitting infront of the rig n had a big lump on his head were hed fallen over they stopped the party 4 a bit till the ambulances came, read on SJ he died this morning.

shows how careful ppl hav 2 be wit research chemicals

[unglued]

oh my god , thats pretty sick. god its scary to think isnt it. feel sorry 4 his family that would be alot to deal wit.
i saw some girl on the floor once, all i could see was her feet and people stood around her, wen ur in that mind frame i wanted to go and help her, and my boyfriend wouldnt let me go which just scared me more.

[spangle]

i think that the guy hasnt died but is in critical condition, pretty nasty tho hope he pulls through

[Raj]

Three people are seriously ill in hospital after apparently taking a new and relatively unknown drug bought at an illegal rave.

The men, one aged 19 from Brighton, were taken ill after a rave at the Omnipak factory in Biggleswade, Beds, in the early hours of Sunday.


It is believed they took a new drug in tablet form known as either DO9 or DOI.




The story is here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6308895.stm)

Careful guys please

[FreeSpirit101]

I was there... was pretty freaky actually.... :( Would like to know if the bloke who cracked his head on the floor is ok?? If anyone knows him??

Thanks :D

[elretardo87]

RCs should usually be taken in such minute quantities that I would never take them to a party unless they were pre split up.

If taking any RC chemical I think its important to split them into gel caps and take only small ammounts with you. I've had a few accidents with them before due toa misinterpreting the decimal point.

I once put ten times as much 2c-t-7 in lines for people. I didn't realise until the next day that large doses of 2c-t-7 have actually killed people in the past and I had been very lucky.

So be very very careful. They aren't called research chems for no reason. Check out beforehand what doseages are reported as safe and act accordingly.

DOI is taken in such small quantities, 1.5 - 3mg, that it is extremely dangerous to be attempting to self administer a dose, especially when in a mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodoamphetamine

[FreeSpirit101]

:( *was there too with the guy who had the lump on his head* was really shocked.. wish i could of done something, but couldnt... Was scary to see and makes you think..

*sendin out thoughts to them and familys* :(

[Raj]

Dosage recommended = 1.5 to 3 thousandths of a gram folk ie the max = 3/1000g this is an absolutely tiny amount so it should be done with great care

For Alexander Shulgins comments please read this link (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal067.shtml)

[Ollielizard]

Yeh man the dude from brighton is a close mate of mine. Hes conscious now but hes not talking any sense! I really hope hes ok and the same to anyone else who had the misfortune of taking the drug at the party.

My advice to EVERYONE at parties is to be more carefull about your drug intake. This whole macho thing about 'yeh i done 7g of base' or 'i done 1g lines of K' is really starting to take its toll.

If we dont look out for each other then the police will do it for us by cracking down even harder on the scene. In this day and age drugs seem to come before the party and its really pissing me off.

Parties should be about the tunes and the people that go to them, not another excuse to shove more chemicals down our necks.

Love and hugs to you all

Info about what happend- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6308895.stm

Info about the nasty drug - http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal067.shtml

[Acidfairy]

Shit hun.. i'm really sorry to hear about this an i hope your mate is ok..

You're right about the whole party thing and peoples drug intakes.. i hear so many people competing with each other on how much they took.. its silly..

[FreeSpirit101]

agreed!!

[Ollielizard]

Thanks for you kind words acidfairy and freespirit and Im glad someone agrees with me :)

[Ruff Beat Provider]

We can only hope they dont start putting this stuff in pills and other drugs sold at rave. it seems like the kinda thing they'd use to bulk up other substances!
Be Very careful.
Thinking for the familys involved.

[Arawn]

Decided a while ago that all that PiHKAL and TiHKAL shit aint for me...

Tried 2CB once last year, was panicking a little at first, but once I lightened up a bit and got a little bevvy inside me it was a good laugh :crazy:

Had something else that was very trippy at new year...could've been 2CB or maybe just a pill with a little LSD in it...just thought it was an ordinary pill so I scoffed it down! :hopeless:

I guess you need to be of a particularly worry-free disposition to take these chemicals and enjoy 'em...

[r1cky1]

Who ever is selling this shit should be strung up & beaten
Rave are not for selling design faulted drugs...

Take your own supplys from your home towns too be safe as these partys...

Any news on how they are getting on...????


your fucking skummy dodgy dealler :you_crazy

[Raj]

TBH the problem is the strength of the drug - according to the Pikhal review it can be quite enjoyable in very small quantities but they are extremely small quantities :scared:

It is not suitable for sorting the doses out in dark places when the user is already in some way inebriated - this way lies danger. :hopeless:

I hope these guys make a full recovery and live life to the full again :weee:

:rant: :rant: :rant: I dont understand the tendency to treat the drugs like cheap low alcohol lager - more is definetely not better in either case - both are supposed to enhance your enjoyment of an event not make you so past your best you cant remember it properly :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

Its not macho or hard to end up sitting in a corner, passed out or freaking out because you have overdone it with some chemical [alcohol or otherwise].

Usually this is a downer both for you and your friends who have to look after you [TBH if the people you are with dont check on you in this condition I would question if they are really your friends:hopeless:]

Rant over :flowers:

[quietRIOT]

sorry to hear that ..what had he had .?...nothing worse than seeing that out at a party..nasty

[Linz]

Its really shit what happened to these people but we all need to take responsibilty for our own actions.

I would never get anything off someone I dont know at a party-far too dodgy!! You never know what your getting.

Although i'm sure whoever sold it didn't intend to mess these people up-like you said its just very hard to administer the right quantities when its dark and your spangled!!

I hear they're all stable now-lets hope they make a full recovery.

Was good to see everyone trying their best to help and having quick actions by calling the ambulance-this time it was obviously necessary.

If nothing else at least its made us all think a little more about things.:hopeless:

[stax]

apparently this stuff can take upto 3hrs to kick in. could of been a case of 'hmm not doing anything , flick another one back'

not good publicity tho and thoughts go out to those involved

[Ruff Beat Provider]

[QUOTE=stax]apparently this stuff can take upto 3hrs to kick in. could of been a case of 'hmm not doing anything , flick another one back'


3 hours! bloody hell. i knoe people who have taken to many pills because they havent kicked in after 40 mins an hour. but three hours you really do have to be careful. To easy to do more and more and then finally BANG!!!!!!

[General Lighting]

Its really shit what happened to these people but we all need to take responsibilty for our own actions.

I would never get anything off someone I dont know at a party-far too dodgy!! You never know what your getting.

Although i'm sure whoever sold it didn't intend to mess these people up-like you said its just very hard to administer the right quantities when its dark and your spangled!!
TBH this sort of relatively untested research chemical should never be sold at a party to first-time users, and we do not even know if its was pure DOI or a combination of DOI and various other 2-C* derivatives.

From personal experience I think that current available info underestimates the stimulant effect of these drugs on the body; particularly in combination with other amfetamine-type stimulants.

If people want to experiment with these things they should initially do so with a smaller, trusted group of friends in an environment where they have a calm place to get to in case of problems (i.e not a dark warehouse with banding music and 1000 other people gawping at them freaking out and often taking the piss or getting in the way)

although there's still a risk with pills and speed they have been around for ages and most risks/danger signs are well known. BTW its a common misconception that research chems are legal in Britain.

They are not - and if they have any sort of afmetamine group in their chemical formular they are at least class B and in many cases class A. Most of the common ones were made Class A in 2002, along with a change to the law which makes newly discovered drugs based on an existing illegal drug automatically illegal.

Anyway a cop finding unidentifiable powders almost always treats them as class A (and arrests on suspicion) until proven otherwise.


I hear they're all stable now-lets hope they make a full recovery.

Was good to see everyone trying their best to help and having quick actions by calling the ambulance-this time it was obviously necessary.

If nothing else at least its made us all think a little more about things.:hopeless:
well said... you should never hesitate to call the ambulance service in these situations, although it may well (and increasingly often does) result in an illegal event being closed down.

No party or rig is worth someones life though, but if we want unlicensed raves to keep happening we have to look after ourselves better.

[Sandals]

it was horrible to watch .. i hope these ppl make full recoverys!!

my friend and his g/f took it but they are very drugs aware and only took the smallest amount, thank good they r ok.

i was also offered the drug but said no. i hope everyone will be extra carefull from now on.

["Sound-Guy"]

Dark side, people at the party must ave been shittin it seein that. This is gonna make old bill start shuttin down partys more often now they know people are at more of a serious risk

[Dr Bunsen]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6308895.stm

2,5-Dimethoxy-4-iodoamphetamine

http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=180

http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=22659&highlight=doi

[General Lighting]

Dark side, people at the party must ave been shittin it seein that. This is gonna make old bill start shuttin down partys more often now they know people are at more of a serious risk

thats what they might say to the Press but the sad truth is its more because the emergency ambulances that are called haven't been paid for.

Loads of people get done over or ill because of alcohol abuse or incidents in legal clubs but the cost of ambulances is supposedly recovered through taxes

All the legal raves like Tidy or HTID have a similar amount of casualties but they are taken to emergency department by private paramedics which you pay for as part of the ticket price.

The authorities grudingly accept that at least the cost of Ambulance transport has been paid for by the event promoters (the Home Office which has authoritiy over legal raves doesn't actually care whether people live or die, just how much it all costs!)

with illegal raves they can't recover the costs, so the authorities the view that one way of avoiding these costs is stopping events happening in the first place, and increasing enforcement against crews to try and put them off hosting these events.

So every incident like this, apart from the toll it takes on those involved and their friends, does do a litle more damage to the unlicensed rave scene.

[Mash-heD]

:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Anyone actually know what this looks like, is it in pill form just like ectasy....or does it come in capsules? Just curious to ensure that I steer well clear.....was at this event, didn't know what was going on at the time.........saw it on the local news the next day. I find it hard to believe somebody would want to give/sell this stuff to their friends in the first place when they know relativeley little about the side effects. I just hope that a big lesson has been learnt by all involved & nothing like this happens again.

My heart goes out to the people & their families, hope they all make a full recovery...x

[General Lighting]

apparently it was in pill form

there are four casualties now

two presented to Milton Keynes General Hospital having felt unwell (perhaps after the Banbury rave?)

(1 x intensive care, the one on general ward in stable condition)

two further people were taken by Ambulance to Lister hospital in Stevenage (1 also in intensive care, the second is recovering but being quizzed by detectives)

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1155487.0.partygoer_victim_of_new_drug .php

http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=415&ArticleID=2004512

[e_babes]

A friend and I tried some of the common research chemicals about 4 or 5 years ago. We experimented with 2ci mainly then onto 2cb and the rest.

We would buy a gram of the stuff which was 99.99% pure (as they guaranteed this quality). We guessed at how much we would take by (would you believe it) spreading out thinly over a grid of squares and then seperated these squares and then put these doseages into gel caps.

Albeit this is a very crude way of doing this. We could only guess that the amount of 2c (x) taken was in the range of 25 - 30mg per trip (PiKHAL aparently says that this is quite a nice trip and not too intense).

I cant even comprehend that the tinyest amount of this drug doing so much damage.

I can only assume that the drug was sold as Exstacy but obviously had this research chemical in tow ...

[raverbaby]

apparently it was in pill form

there are four casualties now

two presented to Milton Keynes General Hospital having felt unwell (perhaps after the Banbury rave?)

(1 x intensive care, the one on general ward in stable condition)

two further people were taken by Ambulance to Lister hospital in Stevenage (1 also in intensive care, the second is recovering but being quizzed by detectives)

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1155487.0.partygoer_victim_of_new_drug .php

http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=415&ArticleID=2004512

would have thought they would have sent them to JR.

[General Lighting]

would have thought they would have sent them to JR.

I get the impression from the articles they were taken ill between the two raves and then dropped off at the nearest Emergency Department rather than picked up by South Central Ambulance (or the papers would have mentioned this as well)

[classbhero]

DOI and DOM

DOM is fucking dangerous as im sure DOI probably is as well..... a friend of mine who is about forty eight knows a man who ate DOM back in the hippy days and never recovered.... spent six years totally space cadetted and then slowly returned to A KIND OF NORMAL.... but was never the same... careful with your dose and careful with who ur with where u are.... this shit is not to be messed with lightly.... not to say you shouldnt try it.... just have the knowledge first.

best of luck to anyone harmed by DOI......
i wish a speedy recovery..
peace and love
Jack

[knowledgestick]

DOI is not the problem its the idiots dosing it and giving it to the people.

i just ran out of a sheet of 1000 hits of DOI i dosed this stuff is so potent and powerfull in small amounts it SHOULD NOT be pressed into tablets!!!

but dosed onto blotters to reduce risk of overdose.

the problem hear sounds like people trying to make a quick buck off somthing they can buy online and sell at a rave kind of thing.

always undershoot when dosing somthing like this so that u have to take 1-3 blotters to get you high less is better. i personaly enjoy DOI greatly and so does my GF and everybody else who has tryed it that recived it from me. the 30 hr high is awsome and leaves you feelin like a hippy from friday-sunday smokin weed chillin lookin at the clouds hehe.

hope everybody recouvers from it and its sad to see another tarnish on the name of drugs, and this time RC's