mosh v dance

[stax]

do you like to get in there and avit with the best of em or do you prefer to stand your ground with some freaky dancing

[BioTech]

DANCE!

[General Lighting]

definitely "normal" dancing..

Moshing (even at raves) can actually get quite aggressive (even if unintentional people get carried away and you get knocked about), causes a safety hazard and doesn't do the kit any good.

Its as popular in SE England as well as the East... Some old friends of mine had their entire rig accidentally pushed over by moshers, they were none too pleased and it put them out of action for a few months....

I seem to manage to fall over/collide into things enough anyway whilst raving, particularly when exploring the area whilst spangled....

http://www.deviate.cx/photo/party/20050226/20050226_005.jpg

[stax]

:laugh_at: 'moshing is shit the speakers will fall and kill you'

LMAO

i dont mind a bit of moshing but I know what you mean about damaging kit, and when a stack is not too stable it can be very dangerous (dem speakers heavy)

but i do love the build up to a tune when the mosh is calm and then when it breaks the mosh goes mental.:bounce_fl :bounce_g:

so with out sounding gay i like a bit of both

[freespirited]

it depends on the tune and what the crowds like!
a good mosh is awesome but then you get idiots that take it too far!

but i prefer moshing, cos im also into my heavy metal such as slayer,metallica so for the first pasrt of my teenage life i was "moshing" to them. And its nice to feel like i can still do that, even if it is at a rave :D
:groucho:

[stax]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosh#Origins_and_history

[USE]

bitta both, blate.

[General Lighting]

At one of the large teks various fences/scaffold was set up to stop the stack getting accidentally pushed over (or people tripping across cables etc)

the media reported this as "barricades to keep the Police away" :laugh_at:

[ogga]

cannot beat a good mosh!
likeminded folks, classic tunes, bangin' rig.
need i say more?
people gotta know not to take it too far an get too violent though.
something immensly spiritual about it.
even looks the bollocks!

[globalloon]

learn to dance

running the risk of sounding bitter... i go to parties to escape a crowd mentality

dancing is one of the best ways to express yourself

[titch]

What Glo said :)

I can't dance, but I like to do my own funny dance (really it is funny) and see other people expressing themselfs in their own way too, good or bad its about being individual.

mmmm I sound very bitter.

[ogga]

learn to dance

running the risk of sounding bitter... i go to parties to escape a crowd mentality

dancing is one of the best ways to express yourself


thats a bit harsh.
i mearly like moshing because i feel a bond with the people i stomp with-having not even said a single word to them. surely thats not so bad is it.
why would i learn to dance to go to party anyway?
:you_crazy!

[Shit Robot]

Same as Glo,My Dancin is wonky as,but who caresraaaraaa

[n.r.g]

dancin everytime !

[General Lighting]

I reckon moshing is confined mostly to younger ravers within Southern and Eastern England (never encountered it anywhere else and it didn't happen much about 4 years ago)....

I find it amusing to watch but can't normally be arsed with taking part - other than one incident at an NYE rave where a certain Frenchman filled me with ketamine and then shoved me into the middle of the S***m stack...

I can see the attraction in it but more recently I've noticed there are people who get carried away and get too aggressive - heard a number of reports of girls getting groped, people sustaining fairly nasty injuries and even being pickpocketed in the mosh....

It looks rather like a modern form of morris dancing to me (but some asppects of morris dancing are actually a substitute to having fights between villages) - and unfortunately not everyone can controll their aggression properly these days...

If I really want to feel a bond with people at a rave I'd rather wait and have a chat to them later on in a more chilled out space TBH...

[miss bassets]

both!! love to dance my dance in my own little bubble
but likewise if sumthing kicks in really heavy i love bouncin round like looney wit every1 the feelin is awesome every1 in unison :bounce_fl :bounce_g:

[ogga]

hmmm
i do agree there is somewhat of an age thing going on. maybe its just a reflection on the parties we first started going to. ie the parties ive been to have all been very moshy-in fact i think i was hooked since-ironically- my first party-new year shindig three years back (mercades warehouse GL?). all you oldies i suppose are used to strictly no mosh exodus style ol' school shindigs eh?

[globalloon]

hmmm
i do agree there is somewhat of an age thing going on. maybe its just a reflection on the parties we first started going to. ie the parties ive been to have all been very moshy-in fact i think i was hooked since-ironically- my first party-new year shindig three years back (mercades warehouse GL?). all you oldies i suppose are used to strictly no mosh exodus style ol' school shindigs eh?

i used to mosh at punk gigs

i like the unity of everyone dancing in their own way at free parties though... it's like sublime communication, rather than just getting anger out (which punk moshing was)

[General Lighting]

yeah I think the reason that moshing is popular in more recent times is because people are actually angrier (and understandably so, given the amount of pressures they face nowadays).

I find a lot of hardstyle/ hard tekno to be quite angry music TBH and I've watched moshes from the sidelines; there is a fair bit of anger and sexual tension there which actually carries through to the parties...

OK maybe a lot of people here don't see it and I'm not saying that any of you younger lot here are genuinely aggressive when moshing, but when people are that close together it only takes a little bit of extra aggression to kick something off and people actually start getting hurt....

[stax]

true a lot of moshes are hardcore but i like the 'gental' moshes in the morning (usualy to old skool) . just a few like minded peeps boppin about
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[the1log]

ah but surley thats boppin not moshing lol.

I`d love to see somone mosh to some break beat.

[stax]

ok well its bopping into each other - lightly:groucho:

[PaulM]

Have not moshed 4 all most 10years.
Fav mosh tune when I was a sprog was The Offspring, self-esteem.
Might have to give it a go again sometime, untill then I will carry on with my monster dancing[flying arms and legs, so watch OUT!] :laugh_at: :you_crazy :laugh_at:

[DJ FATTMAN]

i used to well up for just havin a dance but after gettin in that mosh pit at the andover rave i gotta mosh. When yr dancin yr sort of on yr own in a mosh pit every1 is together avinit much more of a laugh.

[FreaK_AudiO]

[quote=General Lighting]being pickpocketed in the mosh....[quote] :crazy:

How the fuck does moshing at a rave work then? It must be pretty different from what i've read here. (how could people get pick pocketed in a pit i ask??)

Personally I love a good skank pit.. Fishbone ruled that on thursday :D

[djmeny]

mosh mosh mosh!!!:lol_dork:

[marcusblanc]

Hiya freaks,

Moshin is good for people who don't dance, I guess. A way of breakin people in, so to speak! Not that i'm gods gift to a dancefloor, but I really like seein people who dance, and who don't give a shit what anyone else thinks about it. Youngsters take note, dancin is not about who is the best, its about the shared experience. People who are great dancers, but really know it, and play to a crowd, are a bit sad, really.

IMHO its partly a generational thing, cos moshing pre-dates rave (twas a punk and metal thing, when i were a young un), by a considerable margin, and as such, was part of something rave culture was in the business of rejecting ie beer and violence and macho bollocks.

I aint never seen it at a rave myself, but then i don't particulaly wanna party wi kids, so thats fine. I really love the energy when a dancefloor really kicks off, but anyone who one wants to break my bubble, and start pushin me around, or elbows me in the face, is gonna get a proportional response, if you catch my drift. I don't wanna wrestle with some smelly, droolin k'd up crusty, thank you v much, not even if they are female!

Maybe thats just a reflection on the kind of folks at the parties i go to, tho.:groucho:

Its nice to see the youngsters really makin somethin there own, though. Maybe they could start listenin to Perry Como records, on their comedowns ha ha! I'm quite into cardy-cool meself (bein a style guru, natch).:love:

The other thing is what drugs you are on. I think certain drugs make you more aggresive (speed, coke, testosterone etc), others more fluffy.

I don't think moshin has much to do with xtc really, but people ought to be free, to do what they want etc,etc. Thats why they are called free parties...

PS moshin is certainly better than bein a wallflower, anyway, and everyone has to start dancin somewhere! In my case, not until the ripe old age of 28!:crazy_diz

[Sandals]

i do like the feeling of the build up and then when it kicks in everyone has it and goes mad .. its great to watch.

id like to be part of that but tbh im too feeble and would jus get crushed. so i stand around the edges doin my own thing which works for me jus fine :)

[marcusblanc]

I must admit, if i was 6' 6" and 14 stone, it might appeal a bit more.

It just reminds me of havin to play rugby, at school. I hated it, i always 'dropped' the stupid ball, before the fat lads got anywhere near...

So how many girls are in the average mosh then? reminds me of my greasy biker gig-going days, crowds of mostly long-haired men watching other long-haired men with impressive 'finger work'.:groucho:

Obviously, i thought it was good at the time...

[weeman]

i would say moshing and dancing

[Madcake]

well as GL said the Mosh pit has evolved over the past few years
its more intense and i have heard similar dodgy stories about groping etc.
It means i have to spend alot of time securing the stack and keeping an eye on it .

on a personal note if im off my nuts im in there with the rest of em ,and i know because im so tall i can accidentally catch people with my elbow ,so if you see me duck !

as a DJ when you see that mosh pit errupt it just spurs you on even more and sends that tingle right down your spine:group_hug

[Kensaken]

Its all about dancing. Personally i dont really see the appeal of moshing myself. A bit too agressive, all the aggression is taken out of me by the music(that is if its gabber or techno).

[quietRIOT]

i would say Dancing. grooving .kicking .ass shaking. moving,sliding,bumping grinding:crazy_dru ..doing what you wanna do to the beats....

[stomperomper]

well i love to hit the mosh just as much as any other raver...

Salsa, up close....damn....:wink:

["Sound-Guy"]

Personally, i will do both through-out the night

[Ruff Beat Provider]

Personally, i will do both through-out the night
The only way to go!

[lukeo]

yeah why not! don't really c the point personally, i like to bouce about,fall over get back up etc each to there own..have 2 say at one of my party's everbody got bit carried away and the f!ng rig went over, fortunatley backwards..no harm done just some fuct leads..