Is Pornography Harmful?

[Angel]

Are pornography harmfull for young kids ?

(Lets say 12-16 year old kids)


Could put a link here,but I better not:groucho: :groucho: :groucho:

[BioTech]

Do you mean is pornography harmfull to kids who wtach it/look at it?

I think that in the 12-14 bracket it can be, yeah. It might mess up their idea of sex and wimen.

In an ideal world people wouldn't be able to access porn until they were 17-18 but it just doesn't work that way. I know that I saw it from 14 upwards!

[General Lighting]

I think for both younger people and older people there should not be a taboo on mere nudity; but regulations on the sort of acts featured. There is too much material about which is actually showing people being degraded (either staged or real).

like most lads I started looking at pictures of naked women from age 11/12 upwards. I did get the impression that the porn in the 80s (despite the whinging of the womens libs movment back them) actually treated women with more respect than todays stuff though, even though the industry was still quite sleazy (one popular model of those days got dropped as soon as she dropped her first kid and ended up as a street prostitute in my old city).

also to get hold of such material as an 80s youth you had to go through some subterfuge (it was even harder as an Asian lad as the shopkeeper was often some old Asian woman who looked like your gran, or worse still actually knew your family!) which limited your access to such material.

now its on the net for all to see 24/7 and I think it does make young men think that women should be available for sex at all times or makes girls think they should be available (even if not submissive).....

Also there is stuff allowed on the net which indulges very dodgy fantasies such as taking sex by force or combining sexual gratification with violence - I personally think this material should not be legal.

It may sound old fashioned but I think the combination of extreme porn and the removal of shame from people having fuck buddies and even using prostitutes can actually begin to makes love and long term relationships obsolete and it is already doing so in todays society.

[Shit Robot]

The Bloke I used to work fors son is 12,He brought a clip home from school on his phone depicting a man with his head fully inserted into a ladys Vagina,I reckon thats probably pretty bad,No!
Malc (The kids dad was like fuck about it and went ape at the headmaster)
Though in fairness its probably not his fault,unless there was a ban on mobiles or somthing that he as a headmaster was not enforcing.

[Agent Subby]

"He brought a clip home from school on his phone depicting a man with his head fully inserted into a ladys Vagina,I reckon thats probably pretty bad,No!"

Yukk! Whatever turns you on. BTW I don't mean you G.D.:groucho: :groucho:

[Shit Robot]

Mmmmfff! waalluuummmphhh! mmmpppphhhh! uuummmpppphhhh! uuuuupppph!!:wink:

[raverbaby]

harmful NO, fun Yes

[quietRIOT]

harmful an illegal yes ...for a reason....

[the1log]

I looked at porn from about 12-13, don't think it did me any harm just made me wanna do it for real.

Maybe thats the problem though, young kids at it and such, not the best thing really

[General Lighting]

I looked at porn from about 12-13, don't think it did me any harm just made me wanna do it for real.

Maybe thats the problem though, young kids at it and such, not the best thing really
I the problem is the easier access and less restriction on extreme material - coupled with young peoples developing desires - and lads especially getting the idea that girls are just there for sex, or can be overpowered and groped whenever they please.

this was getting bad in the late 1980s/early 1990s and is horrendous now. My mum used to be a teacher for junior/middle school ages and the girls would sometimes tell her they were being molested by lads the same age or just a few years older..... this is girls age 10 or 11 and it was more than just "kiss chase"...

All those recent new laws tightening up on underage sex and stuff like the age of appearing in adult material going up from age 16 to age 18 weren't actually intended just to deal with the common tabloid demon of middle-aged/elderly nonces (most of these sorts of scum are usually easily tracked down and caught).

They were brought in because kids from age 11-16 are being abused by other children of their own age group, or to (perhaps futilely) quell a "moral panic" amongst middle england parents...

[quietRIOT]

harmful an illegal yes ...for a reason....





kids have got all that to look forward to when they get older...i would no way let my two kids watch porn at such a young age its morally wrong wrong wrong....every one when they are young has maybe found a porn book off their dads i did when i was about 13...but i was innocent didnt know ought ... porn films at that age is no go......

[globalloon]

UK porn laws was differnt when i was a teenager

boobs an maybe a shifty of pubes was as far as it went

hardcore porn definately fucks up people's sensitivity to the act of love

if i'm a hippy, shoot me with cupid's arrows

[Tank Girl]

It was really interesting

(and just a little disturbing - due to the family connection)

but when my uncle died I had to clear out his house and found his (somewhat) extensive (!!!!!!) collection of porn,


what was interesting is it went from the 1940's through to the early 90's, and the shift in what was then taboo to acceptable had gradually change slowly over time, each a little more risque..............

what worries me now is how quick what was previously thought taboo / offensive / etc is becoming mainstream and SO easily accessable.
particularily with childrens knowledge of modern technology and how to get around parental controll etc........

they dont even have to suffer the embarrasment of the local shop keeper (which used to put a lot of my friends off!!!!)

[noname]

The Bloke I used to work fors son is 12,He brought a clip home from school on his phone depicting a man with his head fully inserted into a ladys Vagina,I reckon thats probably pretty bad,No!
Malc (The kids dad was like fuck about it and went ape at the headmaster)
Though in fairness its probably not his fault,unless there was a ban on mobiles or somthing that he as a headmaster was not enforcing.
Is this not a bit like the one with the guy who has his head stuck up his own bum?? Amazing what can be done with photoshop and a bit of time/twisted imagination...

On the serious note though, in a world where we have become de-sensitised to lots of things, pornography just reflects that lack of sensitivity.

I would say more harm is done to kids by watching the violence shelled out daily by your tv, than can ever be done by seeing a skin flick.

The combination of violence and sex is always distasteful to anybody who has any form of empathy for others, but with the prevalence of it{violence} in not only fiction, but also the everyday news, it's not really surprising the 2 have been mixed.

From the point of view of porn, I have been seeing it since I was 5 years old (discovering a magazine under dads mattress), and I wouldn't say it's affected me negatively. I have a healthy sex life with a person I love more than life, and no trouble relating to others. At the ages between 12 & 16, I saw a lot of pornography (hormone time bomb, impersonating a Binobo monkey etc)...

If you're a parent though, you should give your kids a bollocking if you find them with it... Parents and pornography are not supposed to mix...:hopeless::hopeless:

[quietRIOT]

kidss an pornography is not to be mixed...............NUF SAID ...that why its illlegal for aREASON....:you_crazy raaa

[Nad]

:crazy: HArmful me don't think so anyways at 14 you kindof know that shit anyways me think.:you_crazy

As for the kid with the pic of a guy with his head fully inserted into a ladys Vagina.thats a good pic me got it.:weee:

[luckystar]

In a way it could be.. at that age you might think the image women portray in those films is actually how they are/ can be treated...
But at the same time learning about sex is part of growing up!

:bounce_fl

[Vibration]

I grew up in California so there wasn't the same restrictions on material that you had in the UK at the time.
I remember when I was 10 or 11 I happened across a video called "Prison Rape Fantasy" or something very similar to that.

I don't know about other people, but by the age of 10 or 11 I already had a pretty distinct awareness that things on television weren't the same as things in real life.

I never expected to see a black van stop on my street and a heavily armed Mr T jump out of the back. Nor did I expect that one day the TARDIS would really land down the road and whisk me off to Skaro.
Both really neat ideas, but I was fairly aware it was in the fictional fantasy world somewhere. And this really graphic material entered my brain the same way. I never thought it was how the real world really worked.

Ironically I do think that kids should be kept well away from things like the video I encountered! But I don't think that the video actually messed me up.

I think softcore stuff is probably safe. I remember seeing topless ladies dressed as maids and nurses or whatever. Just seemed a bit of fun.

I think a lot of this issue actually stems from people being not 100% comfortable with the idea that 11-14 year olds have a sex drive and might want to look at this stuff.

[Nature_Boy]

Porn is great. All young boys love it - at that age you can't really get drunk or stoned, so what else do you expect them to do?

Some hardcore stuff is a bit disturbing, but it's mostly just pictures of naked ladies. I don't think there is anything shocking about a womans body, or a film of a couple having sex and pretending to enjoy it more than they are...

But then again I am from a farming background and yesterday I spent 20 mins with my hand in a sheeps vagina, so what do I know?

(P.S just re-read this and I should make it clear she had a partially aborted lamb - I am not THAT strange!!:wink:)

P.P.S why would you go to the trouble of answering an internet poll with 'I don't care'?!

[kaito]

I dont see an issue with the softcore stuff, but I think that the internet has changed the rules of the game and opened up a bit of a can of worms by allowing any fantasy there is a market for to be accessible to anyone who wishes to look for it.

I know all my mates were reading grot mags throughout high school and this is really normal for all lads of that age. However, I also know that having been exposed to hardcore porn films through my older brothers mates from the age of about 8 or 9 did have an impact on the way I view sex - only one of a very many contributing factors to twisting me but a factor none the less. This has led to me having problems building relationships as I have a very broad minded and high sex drive and easily become bored, all things I believe are partly due to having high and constant exposure to hardcore porn froma young age - although this is by no means the only or most important factor here. At the end of the day though it hasn't effected my attitude to women in the long run, only too sex, and the only reason this has been an issue for me is that it can be difficlult to find a partner who will satisfy all my needs - and made me promiscuos when not in a relationship (if i get the chance!).

Moving on from this, i know much of what I have seen on the net in recent years is much more extreme than anythign I had access to as a kid and this is where i think there may be an issue as I hate to think what sort of an impression this stuff is making on young minds, as I can imagine what sort of an impact it woud have had on mine - I'm twisted enough as it is and this stuff goes to whole new levels!!!

[MrAHC]

Porn is the only way I can remember what a lass looks like with her clothes off .....lol

[quietRIOT]

mwhahaaa haaahaaaa .ahaahhaa sorry ....:group_hug

[AJS]

I don't think there's any harm in softcore. Kids will almost definately get hold of porn from somewhere.
The only way I can think of to make sure is to go to the shop and but them some 'normal' porn from Penthouse or something.
That might be enough to keep them happy and stop them from downloading the twisted shit from the internet until they are old enough to realise that it's wrong.
I don't have any kids so I'm sorry if any parents don't agree. I may well feel different when they're my own.

[Digital-A]

i believe it would lead to male children of that bracket, while going through the hormone rollercoaster that is puberty, with the impression that all women can/want to be treated that way. i believe our society is sex driven and is treated like a hobby more than an act of closeness between partners.

if im honest though i seriously believe porn is a bad thing ...

[starlaugh]

I have been viewing porn from early teens! :groucho:

Its not really made me nutty or have disrepect for women, i think i have been able to realise what is seen in porn is not how it goes on in real life.

i believe our society is sex driven and is treated like a hobby more than an act of closeness between partners.

I know what you mean, but then againthere is a difference between a one night stand (like i ever get that chance) and spending a night with your partner. A one night stand is a bit bish bash bosh thank you! :weee: But it always feels special with a partner. raaa

[boothy]

well i dont think it's particularly bad to download porn movies off limewire maybe at the age 12+, (aint it just a part of growin up?) as long as they are not real twisted shit like violence n stuff.

however from about 12 or 13 a lot of people i knew had real sick movies of like, some lass gettin fucked by a horse. whoever it was actually died, but that video, and ones like the fella stickin his whole head up a ladys vagina, these movies circulate even little kids mobiles, and they think it's hilarious...

personally i first got shown porn when i was 9, by my mate who had found his older brothers computer password. i dont think it did me any harm, although i wouldn't suggest 9 as a good age to first see porn, far too young imo.

[General Lighting]

well i dont think it's particularly bad to download porn movies off limewire maybe at the age 12+, (aint it just a part of growin up?) as long as they are not real twisted shit like violence n stuff.

thats the problem - in the 80s it wasn't that easy to get the real sick/twisted stuff, now the internet has made it easily available and its there with all the softer stuff and often made by the same groups of people.

and a lot of girls in porno films these days are trafficked women, some don't 100% want to be doing it (or are desperate for money/drugs) or its done without their knowledge (even by their partners) and that IMO has to be wrong... because its unregulated all these abuses happen and they go unpunished.

[starlaugh]

thats the problem - in the 80s it wasn't that easy to get the real sick/twisted stuff, now the internet has made it easily available and its there with all the softer stuff and often made by the same groups of people.

The thing is i cant see how anyone can get off on the sick and twisted stuff! :you_crazy I have seen a few but i just find them repuslive......

[Tank Girl]

The thing is i cant see how anyone can get off on the sick and twisted stuff


It is hard to understand but some people do.


The range of what you can access from your living room IMHO is fucking frightening esp as it is so easily accessed. A friend of mine mis typed something the other day to have incest sites come up - I mean I dont think you get that in your average sweet shop for your 13 yr old to peruse (I may be wrong never looked that close :apathy:)

[skimalodeon]

The Bloke I used to work fors son is 12,He brought a clip home from school on his phone depicting a man with his head fully inserted into a ladys Vagina,I reckon thats probably pretty bad,No!


No shit! I remember that film from my secondary school days!
It was quite a headfuck...

[tarifa]

and a lot of girls in porno films these days are trafficked women, some don't 100% want to be doing it (or are desperate for money/drugs) or its done without their knowledge (even by their partners) and that IMO has to be wrong... because its unregulated all these abuses happen and they go unpunished.

Ok so is the question:-

- is all pornography bad?

- is the uncontrollable internet bad?

- is any porno that I don't personally like bad?

- is anything that links money and sex bad?

What exactly is the discussion?

As far as I'm concerned anything between consenting adults is fair game including wierd, wonderful or just plain kinky, for personal pleasure only or for sharing ie porn.

Anything thats coercive or genuinely against someone's will is out of line.

[Playground Politics]

i cant see watching porn being dangerous, doing/performing it tho can have fatal consequences

[General Lighting]

As far as I'm concerned anything between consenting adults is fair game including wierd, wonderful or just plain kinky, for personal pleasure only or for sharing ie porn.

Anything thats coercive or genuinely against someone's will is out of line.
thats my view on it - but my worries are that yet again self-regulation has failed..

There's definitely a nasty, angry, misogynistic edge to "adult material" these days that wasn't as easily available 20 or so years ago, and an increasing use (and acceptance in some circles) of covert filming methods for obtaining such material without consent.

in some cases, the person may have consented to sexual activity, but not such activity being photographed and distributed, or posed for pictures only to be shared with a partner or close friends, then found the pics shared out of spite when a relationship or friendship ends.

[tarifa]

in some cases, the person may have consented to sexual activity, but not such activity being photographed and distributed, or posed for pictures only to be shared with a partner or close friends, then found the pics shared out of spite when a relationship or friendship ends.

So advances in technology are making things more risky ie 20 years ago if your partner took a polaroid (!) of you naked then the worst that could happen was their mates or your local town seeing it but nowadays you can go on the web and the whole world can see it!

I will probably come across as an old fogey now but I recently had some very sweet temporary house-mates, 2 x female, 19 years old, just outta home (and I mean no disrespect to all you 19 year olds, these girls were sheltered!) but full of the joys of independance and not really a clue.

They've got camera-phones, obviously, and were forever getting porn clips, and then decided to make home porn clips with their respective boyfriends. and then show all their mates these x-rated movies.

Fine but when asked if they minded their boyfriends mates seeing them like this they were all like, 'oh no no he wouldn't show them to anybody we promised'

FFS! How naive can you get! And what a huge potential shitty can of worms for when the almost inevitable break up happens. Love can turn to hate so quickly you guys! and then they've got hardcore you in all your glory to do what the hell they like with!

Yes its shitty but people need to assess the risks and take some responsibility for themselves. I know it can't guard against everything but think before you leave yourself open.

[leveret]

It is 30 years ago now so I don't mind admitting that I found my own access to pornography between the ages of 14 to 16. Mostly just through magazines found thrown away or lying around. I also worked at the same age in a railway workshop which was lined with some quite interesting magazine cut outs ! I don't know whether it harmed me but at least I haven't gone blind yet :crazy: :wink:

Of course it was mostly not so gynaecological as what is fairly easily found on the internet these days but from my own experience of some of the more "kinky" bits I found, I think kids 12 to 16 would probably just pass on over anything they didn't find exciting themselves like any other boring adult stuff.

I think it chiefly taught me that sex is OK, even if we pretend we don't talk about it ...

Nick

[PHARTY]

Pornography definately harmed me I hav overuse injuries in both wrists and now need surgery.... the same sort of surgery that Tankgirl has just undergone hmmmm so tell me TG do you happen
2 own a wide an varied porn collection by any chance?:wink:

[Playground Politics]

porn can be dangerous if watching when uve got a handful of razor blades

[DJCliffy]

porn can be dangerous if watching when uve got a handful of razor blades

Thats where i'm going wrong. Thanks for the useful tip! :crazy:

[boothy]

kids have got all that to look forward to when they get older...i would no way let my two kids watch porn at such a young age its morally wrong wrong wrong....every one when they are young has maybe found a porn book off their dads i did when i was about 13...but i was innocent didnt know ought ... porn films at that age is no go......

you're not supposed to let them


they'll probably be doing so anyway

cmon, be realistic

[DaftFader]

Pornography definately harmed me I hav overuse injuries in both wrists and now need surgery.... the same sort of surgery that Tankgirl has just undergone hmmmm so tell me TG do you happen
2 own a wide an varied porn collection by any chance?:wink:
RSI?

[JulesDogg]

Are pornography harmfull for young kids ?
(Lets say 12-16 year old kids)


This is not a subject that can be drawn up in black and white. There is a huge grey area in the middle.

I cannot see that an image of a loving couple in the act of copulation could possibly have an adverse effect on any child.

On the other hand, the image of a teenage girl being gang raped by a team of old men would be horrible for a young child to see.

[JonnyQuest]

violent porn is illegal

[Tank Girl]

Pornography definately harmed me I hav overuse injuries in both wrists and now need surgery.... the same sort of surgery that Tankgirl has just undergone hmmmm so tell me TG do you happen
2 own a wide an varied porn collection by any chance?:wink:

tee hee - just saw this!

I miss Phartys posts!! :laugh_at:

[Scouse]

you're not supposed to let them
they'll probably be doing so anyway
cmon, be realistic

Yeah your probably right but an effort should be made to keep it out of thier way. If a young lad actively seeks some wank material on the net, he's going to get it.

The local (rip off!) off-licence used to have it all over the top shelf (which was about 4 foot high) with no attempt made to hide the naughty bits and this was right opposite the penny sweet selection. That was bad enough imo.

I went in thier to get a few Brews the other day and they'd gotten rid of all the normal mags and replaced them with cheap and nasty pornos :crazy:

The smelly turkish geezers who own the shop have been seen by me selling ciggies to kids who are well under 16. I doubt they'd refuse the cash if some young lad some dirty pics or dvd's.

Random tangent- I saw some guy in thier flciking through a few gay porn mags when his mate walked in. The look on his face :laugh_at:

[JulesDogg]

The local (rip off!) off-licence used to have it all over the top shelf (which was about 4 foot high) with no attempt made to hide the naughty bits and this was right opposite the penny sweet selection. That was bad enough imo.

Scouse, I'm not into 'on-view' porno in the off licence either. It needs to be kept away from kiddie's eyes. They could put the mags in opaque covers or something.

BTW, I like your avatar and I'm a big fan of Alex Grey. I was fortunate enough to be attending a conference on psychedelics in Amsterdam back in the 90s. Alex gave a very moving 90 minute presentation on the 'Sacred Mirrors'. I got to chat with him in the lobby afterwards, absolutely amazing guy.

[redneck]

there's way too much censorship in this country imo.
we're brought up to believe sex is bad and should be hidden away and this attitude has basically turned the UK into a nation of perverts.

[DJCliffy]

there's way too much censorship in this country imo.
we're brought up to believe sex is bad and should be hidden away and this attitude has basically turned the UK into a nation of perverts.

The UK's always been a nation of perverts. God bless the UK! :laugh_at:

[Reichil]

now its on the net for all to see 24/7 and I think it does make young men think that women should be available for sex at all times or makes girls think they should be available (even if not submissive).....


It may sound old fashioned but I think the combination of extreme porn and the removal of shame from people having fuck buddies and even using prostitutes can actually begin to makes love and long term relationships obsolete and it is already doing so in todays society.


I totally agree. Porn is fun to watch, but It can disrupt a relationship. I've been in 2 relationships where my ex at the time would do things to me he saw in a porno. Bad things, like strangle me, piss on my vagina, force me to take his cock deep throat and I choke, force himself in me when I wasn't wet enough for the act, very abusive. Those 2 relationships ended shortly after that happened. I have too much self respect to listen or be forced by some ass who has his head in a porn fantasy. Some guys have high expectations for sex with a women, because they are relating their life, to porn-which is strict fantasy. Porn can be used wisely to make your sex romp more fun, but please, do not slap around someone unless you ask first!!

Young kids who are getting their hands on porn is pretty bad, but it happens. Sometimes its not so bad if they 'understand' that porn is fantasy, and not REAL LIFE.

[MrAHC]

i once raped a whole convent after watching dbbie does dallas.

[fishpaste]

i think it can be harmful to their view of women in general. like as there so young, by only having porn as a source of sex theyl proberbly think that all girls are like that.

[MrAHC]

i think it can be harmful to their view of women in general. like as there so young, by only having porn as a source of sex theyl proberbly think that all girls are like that.
they are arnt they?

[fishpaste]

they are arnt they?no.

[barnzy001]

only for your wrist's

[ethereating-eskimo]

I'm personaly know people my age who's idea of sex and how somebody should look and be treated is seriousley skewed. I can only assume It came from too much porn, also I'd like to point out that I know more ladys than dudes who's idea of what sex should be is unrealistic.
I got a hold of my first nudey mag when I was like 5. I was indeed fascinated but it didn't fuck me up, by the time I was 13 and had an internet connection I was surfing porn sites on a daily bases and the only thing It has done is make me way less excited by porn then I would be if I hadn't gotten over it when I was like 16.

[MrAHC]

no.
well getting my girlfriend drunk and riding a motorbike up her ass hole is off the cards then....

[Marinapeter]

I am not agree on that cause If someone wants sex then you should not stop that.That her/his body wants that so there is no danger.

[MrAHC]

.That her/his body wants that so there is no danger.
So why do people give me shit for injecting heroin? its my body n all that. I'm very moralistic and think sex should be a private matter between two people, fuck all this fuck buddy, swingers & sticking foot pumps up each others ass holes n all that. what happend to loving relationships?