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Unregister3d
13-08-2006, 10:43 AM
How does a person get into Heaven?
Here’s what most people say about what gets you into Heaven:
Everyone becomes an angel and goes to heaven when they die.
Whoever obeys the Ten Commandments will go to heaven.
Whoever goes to church will go to heaven.
Whoever does more good things than bad things will go to heaven.
Whoever believes in God will go to heaven.
Whoever has not done anything really bad will go
to heaven, or if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds.
Everyone in a Christian household will go to heaven.
Well, these statements may SEEM ok, but they are NOT TRUE. None of these will get a person past those pearly gates.
To get into heaven you must:
1. Admit you are a sinner. Romans 3:23 from the Bible says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. That means that EVERYONE has sinned.
2. You must then realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and took your punishment so that you could have eternal life in Heaven.
3. You must now REPENT of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and to forgive you of all your sins(things you have done wrong). This means that you must totally and sincerely turn from your sins, and simply ask Jesus Christ to be your Savior and Lord and to come into your heart and change it. It doesn’t matter how bad you have been, because Jesus will take you anyway. All you need to do is accept his offer of eternal life.
Here’s a prayer that you can pray if you decide to accept Jesus as Savior:
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
All it takes is faith to accept Jesus as Savior. Faith is simply trusting in Jesus. You trust that your parents will take care of you, right? That’s faith in your parents, however that’s not SAVING faith. That’s just an example of what faith is, so have that same attitude in Jesus. If you sincerely prayed that prayer with all your heart and have accepted Jesus as savior, then just trust that Jesus has forgiven you of your sins and is now your Savior, Friend, and Lord.
Well, you might ask, what if I refuse Jesus’ offer? Well, that’s what I’m going to discuss now.
If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and die without accepting him as Savior, then you will die in your sin, and then there will be no hope for you. Instead of spending eternity in Heaven, a place of pure bliss where everyone is happy and there is no suffering and the streets are made of pure gold, you will go to another place. A terrible place.
A PLACE CALLED HELL!
God originally made Hell for Satan and his band of Demons(Satan and his demons are former angels who turned against God, so God kicked them out of heaven). God never wanted any of us human beings to go there. But, if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation, then Hell is where you will go. God takes no pleasure in this, but this is YOUR CHOICE. You might say “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell”. Well, God doesn’t send you to hell!
YOU SEND YOURSELF TO HELL if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation!
Here’s what Hell is like just incase you’re wondering:
1. HELL IS A REAL PLACE! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN HELL OR NOT! IT’S STILL THERE AND YOU’RE STILL GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT JESUS AS SAVIOR!
2. Hell is a place where you will burn forever and ever in a blazing fire. Your suffering will NEVER end, and it NEVER stops. You will never get even one SECOND of rest from the pain. Revelation 14:11 says that “…and they have no rest day nor night…”, that’s not all of the verse, but it’s stating that you will never get any relief from your torment.
3. You will cry and weep forever and ever over your refusal to accept Jesus as Savior, which will add to the torment since that simple prayer would have saved you from this place of never-ending torment.
4. You won’t even get a DROP OF WATER to ease your pain(Luke 16:24). Nothing. Your pain is NEVER eased. NEVER.
So, there you have it. A description of what Hell will be like if you decide to go there by rejecting Jesus.
DON’T LET THIS CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS SLIP BY!
You might not get another chance! This might be your last chance to accept Jesus as Savior, since you really don’t know when you’re going to die! Don’t think “Well, I’ll just wait until I get older”, because you could die before then! You could even die tonight even! And if you die without Jesus, then you will go to hell. Proverbs 27:1 says “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.” So, you see, you don’t know if you will have another chance to get saved, so heed this warning now!
Here’s the Salvation Prayer again that I put up earlier that you can pray if you want to accept Jesus as Savior.
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
You must pray in Jesus’ name! If you don’t do that, then the prayer will not reach God’s ears! Sorry, but I’m not the one who makes the rules. This applies to every prayer you pray, not just the Prayer of Salvation! If you pray and don’t say “In Jesus’ name I pray”, then the prayer will not reach the ears of God.
I can’t explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access:
http://www.bible.com/ (Good website, it has the Bible on here, which you can read, and it also explains a few things).
http://www.amazingbible.org/ (GREAT site about the Bible, has TONS of information about prayer, Jesus, the Bible, and lots of other topics.)
However, you must not rely on these sites alone. You must also find yourself a good Bible-Based Church so that you can be with other Christians. Also, Jesus must be your primary teacher, but these sites can help you a lot in learning more about Jesus and about how to be a good Christian. I, personally, have gotten lots of good information off of these sites. However, these sites do NOT replace Praying and Studying the Bible, so you still have to Pray and Study the Bible, but again, these sites can be used as a HELP, but NOT as your primary source.
Alright, I pray that you will accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord and that those sites will help you in your walk with Jesus, should you accept him as Savior.
May God richly Bless your life.
Angel
13-08-2006, 04:46 PM
:you_crazy :you_crazy :you_crazy sorry dude..
globalloon
13-08-2006, 04:58 PM
my reason tells me that i should respect everyone's opinions and beliefs, in the way that i would like mine to be respected
however, your blind faith is an affront to my reason and reason is all we have to seperate us from the other animals
:yakk:
Agent Subby
13-08-2006, 08:46 PM
How does a person get into Heaven?
Here’s what most people say about what gets you into Heaven:
Everyone becomes an angel and goes to heaven when they die.
Whoever obeys the Ten Commandments will go to heaven.
Whoever goes to church will go to heaven.
Whoever does more good things than bad things will go to heaven.
Whoever believes in God will go to heaven.
Whoever has not done anything really bad will go
to heaven, or if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds.
Everyone in a Christian household will go to heaven.
Well, these statements may SEEM ok, but they are NOT TRUE. None of these will get a person past those pearly gates.
To get into heaven you must:
1. Admit you are a sinner. Romans 3:23 from the Bible says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. That means that EVERYONE has sinned.
2. You must then realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and took your punishment so that you could have eternal life in Heaven.
3. You must now REPENT of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and to forgive you of all your sins(things you have done wrong). This means that you must totally and sincerely turn from your sins, and simply ask Jesus Christ to be your Savior and Lord and to come into your heart and change it. It doesn’t matter how bad you have been, because Jesus will take you anyway. All you need to do is accept his offer of eternal life.
Here’s a prayer that you can pray if you decide to accept Jesus as Savior:
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
All it takes is faith to accept Jesus as Savior. Faith is simply trusting in Jesus. You trust that your parents will take care of you, right? That’s faith in your parents, however that’s not SAVING faith. That’s just an example of what faith is, so have that same attitude in Jesus. If you sincerely prayed that prayer with all your heart and have accepted Jesus as savior, then just trust that Jesus has forgiven you of your sins and is now your Savior, Friend, and Lord.
Well, you might ask, what if I refuse Jesus’ offer? Well, that’s what I’m going to discuss now.
If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and die without accepting him as Savior, then you will die in your sin, and then there will be no hope for you. Instead of spending eternity in Heaven, a place of pure bliss where everyone is happy and there is no suffering and the streets are made of pure gold, you will go to another place. A terrible place.
A PLACE CALLED HELL!
God originally made Hell for Satan and his band of Demons(Satan and his demons are former angels who turned against God, so God kicked them out of heaven). God never wanted any of us human beings to go there. But, if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation, then Hell is where you will go. God takes no pleasure in this, but this is YOUR CHOICE. You might say “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell”. Well, God doesn’t send you to hell!
YOU SEND YOURSELF TO HELL if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation!
Here’s what Hell is like just incase you’re wondering:
1. HELL IS A REAL PLACE! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN HELL OR NOT! IT’S STILL THERE AND YOU’RE STILL GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT JESUS AS SAVIOR!
2. Hell is a place where you will burn forever and ever in a blazing fire. Your suffering will NEVER end, and it NEVER stops. You will never get even one SECOND of rest from the pain. Revelation 14:11 says that “…and they have no rest day nor night…”, that’s not all of the verse, but it’s stating that you will never get any relief from your torment.
3. You will cry and weep forever and ever over your refusal to accept Jesus as Savior, which will add to the torment since that simple prayer would have saved you from this place of never-ending torment.
4. You won’t even get a DROP OF WATER to ease your pain(Luke 16:24). Nothing. Your pain is NEVER eased. NEVER.
So, there you have it. A description of what Hell will be like if you decide to go there by rejecting Jesus.
DON’T LET THIS CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS SLIP BY!
You might not get another chance! This might be your last chance to accept Jesus as Savior, since you really don’t know when you’re going to die! Don’t think “Well, I’ll just wait until I get older”, because you could die before then! You could even die tonight even! And if you die without Jesus, then you will go to hell. Proverbs 27:1 says “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.” So, you see, you don’t know if you will have another chance to get saved, so heed this warning now!
Here’s the Salvation Prayer again that I put up earlier that you can pray if you want to accept Jesus as Savior.
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
You must pray in Jesus’ name! If you don’t do that, then the prayer will not reach God’s ears! Sorry, but I’m not the one who makes the rules. This applies to every prayer you pray, not just the Prayer of Salvation! If you pray and don’t say “In Jesus’ name I pray”, then the prayer will not reach the ears of God.
I can’t explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access:
http://www.bible.com/ (Good website, it has the Bible on here, which you can read, and it also explains a few things).
http://www.amazingbible.org/ (GREAT site about the Bible, has TONS of information about prayer, Jesus, the Bible, and lots of other topics.)
However, you must not rely on these sites alone. You must also find yourself a good Bible-Based Church so that you can be with other Christians. Also, Jesus must be your primary teacher, but these sites can help you a lot in learning more about Jesus and about how to be a good Christian. I, personally, have gotten lots of good information off of these sites. However, these sites do NOT replace Praying and Studying the Bible, so you still have to Pray and Study the Bible, but again, these sites can be used as a HELP, but NOT as your primary source.
Alright, I pray that you will accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord and that those sites will help you in your walk with Jesus, should you accept him as Savior.
May God richly Bless your life.
The Bible speaks of God as the infinite-personal creator of the universe. He is eternally a separate entity from His creation. He existed before His creation came into being. The Scripture says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1), showing God was there before His creation existed.
ISKCON practices monotheism. However it assumes traditional Hin-duistic monism (essential pantheism). To them they are all one. "In the beginning of the creation, there was only the Supreme Personality Narayana. There was no Brahma, no Siva, no fire, no moon, no stars in the sky, no sun. There was only Krishna, who creates all and enjoys all.
"All the lists of the incarnations of Godhead are either plenary expan-sions or parts of the plenary expansions of the Lord, but Lord Sri Krsna (alternate spelling of Krishna) is the original Personality of Godhead Himself," Srimad Bhagavatam 1:3:28 (Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, n.d.).
Jesus Christ
According to Scripture, Jesus Christ is God Almighty who became a man in order to die for the sins of the world. He has been God from all eternity. "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God" (John 1:1). ISKCON denies this by making Christ no more than Krishna's son. "Jesus is the son, and Krsna is the Father, and Jesus is Krsna's son" (Jesus Loves Krsna, Los Angeles Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, n.d., p. 26).
Salvation
The Bible teaches that all of us have sinned against a holy God and are therefore in need of a Savior: "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23); "For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23). This is not so in the teachings of ISKCON. According to ISKCON, salva-tion must be earned by performing a series of works. To get rid of the ignorance, one must practice disciplinary devotion by chanting the name of God, hearing and singing his praises, meditating upon the divine play and deeds of KRSNA, and engaging in the rites and ceremonies of worship. One must also repeat the name of God to the count of beads (Abhay Charan de Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Bhagavad-Gita As It Is p. 326).
Self-denial and sacrifice are crucial for salvation in ISKCON. Note the following quotation: All these performers who know the meaning of sacrifice become cleansed of sinful reactions, and, having tasted the nectar of the remnants of such sacrifices, they go to the supreme eternal atmosphere (ibid p. 81).
The Passantinos have done extensive research in the area of the cults, and they offer pertinent comments regarding salvation in ISKCON:
Salvation in Hare Krishna is thoroughly entwined with the Hindu concept of karma, or retributive justice. This teaching, which requires belief in rein-carnation and/or transmigration of the soul, says that one's deeds, good and bad, are measured and judged either for or against him. Only when his good deeds have "atoned" for his bad deeds (and he is thus cleansed of this evil world) can he realize his oneness with Krishna and cease his cycles of rebirth. The idea of karma and reincarnation is anti-biblical. Is it just or reasonable for a man to suffer in this life or be required to atone for sins in this life that he committed in a previous life that he doesn’t even remember? How can suf-fering for an unknown sin reform the sinner and mature him to the point where he no longer performs that sin? Such so-called justice is cruel and absolutely opposed to the God of the Bible (Robert and Gretchen Passantino, op. cit., p.150).
Conclusion
Since ISKCON has a different God, a different Jesus, and a different way of salvation from what the Bible reveals, it is impossible for there to be any compatibility between the two. They differ on all crucial issues. A person must choose between Krishna and Jesus Christ; no harmony can exist between the sect of Hare Krishna and Christianity
Shit Robot
13-08-2006, 10:49 PM
Go Get Em Subby!:laugh_at:
Agent Subby
13-08-2006, 11:42 PM
Go Get Em Subby!:laugh_at:
Tee hee. I'm not a Hare Krishna devotee but I definitely believe in 'for every action there must be an opposite re-action'. Therefore I like to keep my karma in tune as best as possible my numerous deeds, including a strict vegetarian diet and 'being good':wink:
I also believe in re-incarnation. So I better increase my compensation part of the scales:good_evil if I'm to come back as hmmmmmmmm; not thought about that one.:groucho:
:love: :love: :love:
TK-421
14-08-2006, 02:18 PM
err ban the nut?
man religion sucks.. 54% of all wars throught time were caused by religion.. the No 1 killer int he whole world is the mosquito.. followed by religious wars...
the bible was made by a bunch of old dudes who wanted power for themselves.... its the BIGGEST no1 selling science fuction book of ALL TIME!
i mean come on.. do some dude in 7 days created the world? :you_crazy:you_crazy errr right.. DURRRRRRRRR:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
what about NATURAL EVOLUTION! huh primordal ooze and dinosaurs and homo erectus and all that science that has been PROVED!!! not just some gimp in a white suit saying " oh im jesus , but my dad is well ard..."
#
come on ide rather believe in little green men making us as some kind of experement than have some bible bashing freak try to tell me god or ahal or buda or some nut in a tree made the plannet and unless we conform to there ideas we are all doomed?
learn to live u religious freak pff.. dont pick ideas off some 2000 year old science fiction book.. make your bloody own..
:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:: crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::c razy::crazy_dru
Tank Girl
14-08-2006, 07:46 PM
not my cup of tea,
I agree with globalloon in that I try to exersize tollerance of others views but I feel when they are too extremeist and are not tollerant of others themselves....... well........ its not for me
General Lighting
14-08-2006, 08:25 PM
well I was on DSI just now and there were these two Northern girls saying they worshipped custard.
this seems no less sensible than any other form of religion (apart from the risk you may put on too much weight) and a lot safer.
I've never heard of wars being fought over custard, not even in the corner stores of Whitton and Chantry....
Tank Girl
14-08-2006, 08:29 PM
I've never heard of wars being fought over custard, not even in the corner stores of Whitton and Chantry....
:groucho: :crazy: :groucho: a custard fight sounds quite good fun to me :groucho: :crazy: :groucho:
General Lighting
14-08-2006, 08:32 PM
:groucho: :crazy: :groucho: a custard fight sounds quite good fun to me :groucho: :crazy: :groucho:
I suppose it would be operation dessert storm...
groan
Tank Girl
14-08-2006, 08:43 PM
I suppose it would be operation dessert storm...
groan
i must be tired took me a while and a few reads to get that!! :laugh_at:
and with a cherry on top....
Angel
14-08-2006, 08:59 PM
I wonder who have posted it :hopeless:
There are no registeret member by that name,there are no profile.. Absolutely nothing..
Maybe its god,jesus or an evil angel :groucho: :groucho:
NuamiTu18
14-09-2006, 01:19 AM
well in my faith, mormonism one has to do these things to enter the celestial kingdom, the highest level of the heaven:
1. Confess that the book of mormon is true
2. Confess that Joseph Smith was the greatest prophet of god and believe in their heart that he is a prophet
3. Believe in the plan of salvation
4. Believe in Jesus Christ and that his death of the cross redemmed mankind of all of their sins.
5. Take part in the holy sacrament of bread and water
6. Be baptized with the holy spirit.
PHARTY
14-09-2006, 02:03 PM
:groucho: :crazy: :groucho: a custard fight sounds quite good fun to me :groucho: :crazy: :groucho:A naked custard fight sounds better:groucho: :groucho: :groucho: :groucho: :love: :love:
err ban the nut?
man religion sucks.. 54% of all wars throught time were caused by religion.. the No 1 killer int he whole world is the mosquito.. followed by religious wars...
the bible was made by a bunch of old dudes who wanted power for themselves.... its the BIGGEST no1 selling science fuction book of ALL TIME!
i mean come on.. do some dude in 7 days created the world? :you_crazy:you_crazy errr right.. DURRRRRRRRR:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
what about NATURAL EVOLUTION! huh primordal ooze and dinosaurs and homo erectus and all that science that has been PROVED!!! not just some gimp in a white suit saying " oh im jesus , but my dad is well ard..."
#
come on ide rather believe in little green men making us as some kind of experement than have some bible bashing freak try to tell me god or ahal or buda or some nut in a tree made the plannet and unless we conform to there ideas we are all doomed?
learn to live u religious freak pff.. dont pick ideas off some 2000 year old science fiction book.. make your bloody own..
:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:: crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::c razy::crazy_dru
prob with u on this one( i dont wnat to get started on this)
i believe we are here on earth and have the ability to find things out and get to understand GOD(i dont like that term)
i believe there is a reason behind what we see when we look to the night sky and one day, maybe millions of years in the future, we will understand. but for me all i see is religeon(most) trying to control people.
Shit Robot
14-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Religious nuts are NOT perfect,They just want YOU to be.I think I read that on a Rizzla packet or something:groucho:
the rev
14-09-2006, 04:17 PM
How does a person get into Heaven?
Here’s what most people say about what gets you into Heaven:
Everyone becomes an angel and goes to heaven when they die.
Whoever obeys the Ten Commandments will go to heaven.
Whoever goes to church will go to heaven.
Whoever does more good things than bad things will go to heaven.
Whoever believes in God will go to heaven.
Whoever has not done anything really bad will go
to heaven, or if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds.
Everyone in a Christian household will go to heaven.
Well, these statements may SEEM ok, but they are NOT TRUE. None of these will get a person past those pearly gates.
To get into heaven you must:
1. Admit you are a sinner. Romans 3:23 from the Bible says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. That means that EVERYONE has sinned.
2. You must then realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and took your punishment so that you could have eternal life in Heaven.
3. You must now REPENT of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and to forgive you of all your sins(things you have done wrong). This means that you must totally and sincerely turn from your sins, and simply ask Jesus Christ to be your Savior and Lord and to come into your heart and change it. It doesn’t matter how bad you have been, because Jesus will take you anyway. All you need to do is accept his offer of eternal life.
Here’s a prayer that you can pray if you decide to accept Jesus as Savior:
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
All it takes is faith to accept Jesus as Savior. Faith is simply trusting in Jesus. You trust that your parents will take care of you, right? That’s faith in your parents, however that’s not SAVING faith. That’s just an example of what faith is, so have that same attitude in Jesus. If you sincerely prayed that prayer with all your heart and have accepted Jesus as savior, then just trust that Jesus has forgiven you of your sins and is now your Savior, Friend, and Lord.
Well, you might ask, what if I refuse Jesus’ offer? Well, that’s what I’m going to discuss now.
If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and die without accepting him as Savior, then you will die in your sin, and then there will be no hope for you. Instead of spending eternity in Heaven, a place of pure bliss where everyone is happy and there is no suffering and the streets are made of pure gold, you will go to another place. A terrible place.
A PLACE CALLED HELL!
God originally made Hell for Satan and his band of Demons(Satan and his demons are former angels who turned against God, so God kicked them out of heaven). God never wanted any of us human beings to go there. But, if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation, then Hell is where you will go. God takes no pleasure in this, but this is YOUR CHOICE. You might say “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell”. Well, God doesn’t send you to hell!
YOU SEND YOURSELF TO HELL if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation!
Here’s what Hell is like just incase you’re wondering:
1. HELL IS A REAL PLACE! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN HELL OR NOT! IT’S STILL THERE AND YOU’RE STILL GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT JESUS AS SAVIOR!
2. Hell is a place where you will burn forever and ever in a blazing fire. Your suffering will NEVER end, and it NEVER stops. You will never get even one SECOND of rest from the pain. Revelation 14:11 says that “…and they have no rest day nor night…”, that’s not all of the verse, but it’s stating that you will never get any relief from your torment.
3. You will cry and weep forever and ever over your refusal to accept Jesus as Savior, which will add to the torment since that simple prayer would have saved you from this place of never-ending torment.
4. You won’t even get a DROP OF WATER to ease your pain(Luke 16:24). Nothing. Your pain is NEVER eased. NEVER.
So, there you have it. A description of what Hell will be like if you decide to go there by rejecting Jesus.
DON’T LET THIS CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS SLIP BY!
You might not get another chance! This might be your last chance to accept Jesus as Savior, since you really don’t know when you’re going to die! Don’t think “Well, I’ll just wait until I get older”, because you could die before then! You could even die tonight even! And if you die without Jesus, then you will go to hell. Proverbs 27:1 says “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.” So, you see, you don’t know if you will have another chance to get saved, so heed this warning now!
Here’s the Salvation Prayer again that I put up earlier that you can pray if you want to accept Jesus as Savior.
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
You must pray in Jesus’ name! If you don’t do that, then the prayer will not reach God’s ears! Sorry, but I’m not the one who makes the rules. This applies to every prayer you pray, not just the Prayer of Salvation! If you pray and don’t say “In Jesus’ name I pray”, then the prayer will not reach the ears of God.
I can’t explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access:
http://www.bible.com/ (Good website, it has the Bible on here, which you can read, and it also explains a few things).
http://www.amazingbible.org/ (GREAT site about the Bible, has TONS of information about prayer, Jesus, the Bible, and lots of other topics.)
However, you must not rely on these sites alone. You must also find yourself a good Bible-Based Church so that you can be with other Christians. Also, Jesus must be your primary teacher, but these sites can help you a lot in learning more about Jesus and about how to be a good Christian. I, personally, have gotten lots of good information off of these sites. However, these sites do NOT replace Praying and Studying the Bible, so you still have to Pray and Study the Bible, but again, these sites can be used as a HELP, but NOT as your primary source.
Alright, I pray that you will accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord and that those sites will help you in your walk with Jesus, should you accept him as Savior.
May God richly Bless your life.
This bloke wants to piss off doesn't he. :you_crazy
parrellels can be drawn between organised religion and organised crime. I wonder how many people have died over the centuries in the name of their "GOD"
the rev
14-09-2006, 04:18 PM
Sorry i didn't need to quote the whole thing did I?
parrellels can be drawn between organised religion and organised crime. I wonder how many people have died over the centuries in the name of their "GOD"
here here
too many and unfortunatly many more will
the rev
14-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Like this so called "war on terror" its just a 21st century crusade. Fundamentalist christians fighting fundamentalist muslims. Nothing has changed in the last 1500 years. as long as there is religion we will have horrendous loss of innocent life. All in the name of god eh? fucking morons.
YER RIGHT
im all for hearing peoples opinions but i dont like this ones tone
General Lighting
14-09-2006, 04:35 PM
YER RIGHT
im all for hearing peoples opinions but i dont like this ones tone
its a robot religious spammer... they crop up from time to time. They aren't even interestered in responses, the idea is just to get the message out.
the rev
14-09-2006, 04:39 PM
its a robot religious spammer... they crop up from time to time. They aren't even interestered in responses, the idea is just to get the message out.
They've got religious robots now?. Fuck. when will the madness end.:wink:
noname
14-09-2006, 06:17 PM
How do you get to heaven? Dude, you're here.... Stop wasting your life thinking about the future and hereafter, and enjoy where you are now....:bounce_g::bounce_fl:bounce_g::bounce_fl
As for hell - that's something you carry around inside you, not a place you go to...:good_evil:good_evil
They've got religious robots now?. Fuck. when will the madness end.:wink:
its the beggining of the end . aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr
General Lighting
15-09-2006, 10:21 AM
its the beggining of the end . aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr
nah, but it does shows how much money and resources the religious groups have and how far they are prepared to go.
This place gets targeted fairly often, as there are plenty of "young sinners" here.
At election time we had a Catholic campaigner posting on here complaining about abortion etc - she had signed on several boards using different names and her registered email address was the name of a nun who has supposedly been dead since 1992.
there is a Catholic television network called ETWN.
AFAIK they don't even advertise but all their money comes from subscriptions
When I used to work for a company selling broadcast equipment; they always used to have money to buy "new toys". I am talking about seriously large routers, computerised TV transmission systems, kit costing a quarter million dollars..
That is how powerful these groups are...
Angel
15-09-2006, 10:48 AM
As for hell - that's something you carry around inside you, not a place you go to...:good_evil:good_evil
I agree and its not nice
General Lighting
15-09-2006, 10:55 AM
How do you get to heaven? Dude, you're here.... Stop wasting your life thinking about the future and hereafter, and enjoy where you are now....:bounce_g::bounce_fl:bounce_g::bounce_fl
As for hell - that's something you carry around inside you, not a place you go to...:good_evil:good_evil
true. The big problem with religion is that all the denial of pleasure for "future salvation" and the "hunt for sinners" gets turned into anger and hate; and this is what eventually encourages people to start blowing up things in the name of God..
and i am always struck how those at the top of the religious heirarchy are required to forego far less in the way of earthly pleasures and vices than those at the bottom [whose selfdenial allows donations to the religious organization of their choice and enables the indulgence of those at the top]
:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
General Lighting
15-09-2006, 02:55 PM
and i am always struck how those at the top of the religious heirarchy are required to forego far less in the way of earthly pleasures and vices than those at the bottom [whose selfdenial allows donations to the religious organization of their choice and enables the indulgence of those at the top]
:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
well the pope's got a considerable amount of bling...
latin110
28-10-2006, 11:09 PM
well the pope's got a considerable amount of bling...
Maybe a Catholic thing. In Poland, even the catholic preists are on equivalent pay to our doctors and also (AFAIK) dont lack on the vices side either!
For me, heaven or hell are, as said what surround us when we're here and also what we leave when we're gone, in peoples heads. Im maybe cynical thinking that IS life after death.
globalloon
28-10-2006, 11:46 PM
For me, heaven or hell are, as said what surround us when we're here and also what we leave when we're gone, in peoples heads. Im maybe cynical thinking that IS life after death.
agreed
jakatak
07-11-2006, 02:07 PM
latest reports suggest the old testament was written by queen nefititi (or someone from her court) who were all experimenting with monotheism at the time and was nicked by moses. who went on to found Judaism (this is what Christianity and Islam are both based on). As for getting to heaven you can't, when your heart stops beating, blood stops flowing to your brain and it ceases to function, so even if you could 'get' to heaven (anyone seen a dead body move much? thought not.) you would have no way of experiencing it.
and reincarnation? as i recently said to a Sikh friend, that's "just silly". whoops!
my mans post seriously backfired on him!
funny shit!:laugh_at:
beliefes are a tricky thing. i noticed when i started to get really into buddhism i very nearly became preachy.
mr unregistered is probaly new to it and finds a lot of truth in it.
no doubt he/she meant well.
just came cross like a flamin' loony zealot nutjob!
bless em!
(probs an cid casualty:you_crazy )
priv8green
30-03-2007, 08:46 PM
where is this heaven?!
maybe it was in someone's fucked up head and now we all want to go there ...
...and don't answer me Amsterdam :weee:
MisterDuck
30-03-2007, 09:14 PM
personal beliefs i dont have a problem with, as long as they don't try and force their opinions on me. organised religion can fuck off, does so much harm and very little good, it's corrupt and fucked up from top to bottom.
parge
30-03-2007, 11:09 PM
who needs something to believe in,when u can believe in yourself.........
we are all made of atoms and fings if you are berried a strange mysticle tree culd find nutrishon in yoar body and in a way you wud live on............
this is all geting a bit PHILISOFICAL:crazy: (ooooo long word).....
spread the love......:group_hug :group_hug :group_hug
parge
Digital-A
30-03-2007, 11:15 PM
err ban the nut?
man religion sucks.. 54% of all wars throught time were caused by religion.. the No 1 killer int he whole world is the mosquito.. followed by religious wars...
the bible was made by a bunch of old dudes who wanted power for themselves.... its the BIGGEST no1 selling science fuction book of ALL TIME!
i mean come on.. do some dude in 7 days created the world? :you_crazy:you_crazy errr right.. DURRRRRRRRR:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
what about NATURAL EVOLUTION! huh primordal ooze and dinosaurs and homo erectus and all that science that has been PROVED!!! not just some gimp in a white suit saying " oh im jesus , but my dad is well ard..."
#
come on ide rather believe in little green men making us as some kind of experement than have some bible bashing freak try to tell me god or ahal or buda or some nut in a tree made the plannet and unless we conform to there ideas we are all doomed?
learn to live u religious freak pff.. dont pick ideas off some 2000 year old science fiction book.. make your bloody own..
:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:: crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::c razy::crazy_dru
how about you leave what people believe in alone. you have opinions and believes, others have theres. please do not spit on what others need to get through the week, do not call them ''bible bashers'' or whatever it is completly uncalled for, i respect your believes now you respect mine. if you do not you are only as bad as the ones firing weapons in my creators name.
in your hour of need, maybe years from now, you will ask for one person and thatll be god.
starlaugh
31-03-2007, 12:31 PM
how about you leave what people believe in alone. you have opinions and believes, others have theres. please do not spit on what others need to get through the week, do not call them ''bible bashers'' or whatever it is completly uncalled for, i respect your believes now you respect mine. if you do not you are only as bad as the ones firing weapons in my creators name.
in your hour of need, maybe years from now, you will ask for one person and thatll be god.
I come from a very religious family where i have had being Catholic rammed down my throat till it comes out of my arse for years. Well when we moved away from the rest of the family i now live in a house of no religion.
The the thing that puts me off following any religion is that there is not enough scientific evidence, where as all that i have been taught and read about in the way of science conflicts with religion. It gets that bad that i remember visiting family in blackpool and the local Catholic church used to always have a banner out side, it changed ever so often a couple stuck in my head:
"God created the world, we did not evolve into humans. There went dinosours" <- i mean come on thats a bit nutty
"do not watch planet of the apes as it suggests we evloved from monkeys and we did not! we are gods creation" <- :you_crazy
"one about buffy being evil because of the vampires... cant remember the actual quote of this one".
There are probably faults in other religions that re as bad, i just dont know enough about these to comment and it would be unfair for me to make uneducated views on these religions.
Well thats my two pence.
P.S there is not a heaven, well if there is look for the bloody huge stanna stair lift to get all the oldies up there... cant expect the to walk! Also i dont think its in a beam of light as i aint ever seen people floating up in this way..... :laugh_at:
tarifa
31-03-2007, 10:10 PM
dear mr unregister3d,
RE: 'I can't explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access . . . '
thankyou kindly for your concern, I would take you up on your offer of enlightenment but unfortunately I don't have access to the web, whats a girl gonna do?
yours sincerely
me :omg:
DJ-DSS
01-04-2007, 05:46 PM
The the thing that puts me off following any religion is that there is not enough scientific evidence
If your interested in finding good things mate and things that arnt neccessarly religious at all maybe more spiritual.....
and prefer to have some scientific eveidence at first to help along the way, youll find plenty with things like.
Rekie and Meditation, for me these 2 are spiritual ways of life, i practise both and have found my way and my heaven already im contented most of the time. Ive lived in hell already on this planet.
But yeah back to the point mate, theres loads of scientifc eveidence to back these 2 up to show results and then also go beyond what science cant explaine like how a yogi survives getting his breath down and heart rate to so low he should scentifcally bve dead...
how rekie can cure alignments and how sceience shows us the vibarational rates and metaphysics behind it, what they cant show us which for me is the most interesting and enchanting part of all is where it is located.
I love that bit. This is whats is all about for me, the wonder of not knowing, the day i think i know, or preech from any book having no fouind the answer i think my ego will have declaired me ready to certify. And please allow me to be sectioned.
Very arrogent man id be.
Peace.
noname
03-04-2007, 12:16 AM
This is whats is all about for me, the wonder of not knowing, the day i think i know, or preech from any book having no fouind the answer i think my ego will have declaired me ready to certify. And please allow me to be sectioned.
Very arrogent man id be.
Peace.
Amen to that.
We are all learning and evolving constantly. The point where that stops, and you've found some ultimate truth that causes you to spread it to all the world, check yourself for a pulse at the temple before you start. Because your ultimate truth may in fact be a case of death from the neck up...
Oh, and please don't try to enlighten me with the ultimate truth. Not because you are probably wrong, but because even if you are right, I don't want everything explained.
That would take away the magic of what is really a completely amazing and wondrous space/time/multiverse/experience/thing.....
Shit Robot
03-04-2007, 10:18 AM
I don't want everything explained.
That would take away the magic of what is really a completely amazing and wondrous space/time/multiverse/experience/thing.....
Agreed! For Me its the Not knowing that makes life so special,anything can and often does happen,not always good and not always bad but ALWAYS exciting:wink:
tarifa
03-04-2007, 10:54 AM
The the thing that puts me off following any religion is that there is not enough scientific evidence, where as all that i have been taught and read about in the way of science conflicts with religion. :
hey starlaugh,
i'm not 'religious' but would consider myself spiritual as in i have belief, if that makes sense.
I kinda got the impression that its the tension between proved scientific fact and religious doctrine that causes you problems?
There's increasing amounts of 'proof' out there for intelligent design, that evolution happened and the universe exists as scientifically proven so far (which can be argued to be questionable anyway) but that all the chemistry/physics/biology involved is just too coincidental to have happened by accident, so therefore it must have been designed by some sort of intelligence.
I think that may be a useful way of looking at things? its certainly interesting.
My two pence? I'm not sure we were meant to work it all out anyway and like a lot of others i appreciate the mystery.
An as far as i'm concerned it doesn't matter what you believe in, what matters is being a decent human being, and u don't need religion or law to tell u how to do that, as prot once said 'every being in the universe knows the difference between right and wrong' :smile: :group_hug
starlaugh
03-04-2007, 11:54 AM
Yeah tarifa,
Something like that, i have always felt the same about religion (maybe because of all the bloody religious schools and stuff i had to go to),
i would like to belive that there is something or someone out there making the choices and keeping an eye on the world but i just cant see it. To me there is no god, the only person who controls my life is myself. Its the choices i make that direct me in life (even though i am crap at it).
In the past i have had some friends who have had some urm well 'unusual' beliefs, EG spirit guides, stones that comunicate with them, meditate all night in a dip in a hill side. (might be all the acid and shrooms they did).
Even though this is not what i found to be normal i would never point this out, i would sit back and let them get on with their own thing, they seemed happy and content with what they believed in. Also they made the room feel well cosy with candles and crystals so was lovely to chill out and have a smoke with them. Well i treat all religions/beliefs in the same way, never i never ridicule or thell the followers that they are pathetic. Its what makes them happy.
Who knows one day i might find religion could be a crazy arse cult or something spiritual, for now i will keep with what i have always done and just respect other people and enjoy life..... who knows what will happen.
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 08:44 PM
How does a person get into Heaven?
Here’s what most people say about what gets you into Heaven:
Everyone becomes an angel and goes to heaven when they die.
Whoever obeys the Ten Commandments will go to heaven.
Whoever goes to church will go to heaven.
Whoever does more good things than bad things will go to heaven.
Whoever believes in God will go to heaven.
Whoever has not done anything really bad will go
to heaven, or if their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds.
Everyone in a Christian household will go to heaven.
Well, these statements may SEEM ok, but they are NOT TRUE. None of these will get a person past those pearly gates.
To get into heaven you must:
1. Admit you are a sinner. Romans 3:23 from the Bible says “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. That means that EVERYONE has sinned.
2. You must then realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and took your punishment so that you could have eternal life in Heaven.
3. You must now REPENT of your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord and to forgive you of all your sins(things you have done wrong). This means that you must totally and sincerely turn from your sins, and simply ask Jesus Christ to be your Savior and Lord and to come into your heart and change it. It doesn’t matter how bad you have been, because Jesus will take you anyway. All you need to do is accept his offer of eternal life.
Here’s a prayer that you can pray if you decide to accept Jesus as Savior:
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
All it takes is faith to accept Jesus as Savior. Faith is simply trusting in Jesus. You trust that your parents will take care of you, right? That’s faith in your parents, however that’s not SAVING faith. That’s just an example of what faith is, so have that same attitude in Jesus. If you sincerely prayed that prayer with all your heart and have accepted Jesus as savior, then just trust that Jesus has forgiven you of your sins and is now your Savior, Friend, and Lord.
Well, you might ask, what if I refuse Jesus’ offer? Well, that’s what I’m going to discuss now.
If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and die without accepting him as Savior, then you will die in your sin, and then there will be no hope for you. Instead of spending eternity in Heaven, a place of pure bliss where everyone is happy and there is no suffering and the streets are made of pure gold, you will go to another place. A terrible place.
A PLACE CALLED HELL!
God originally made Hell for Satan and his band of Demons(Satan and his demons are former angels who turned against God, so God kicked them out of heaven). God never wanted any of us human beings to go there. But, if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation, then Hell is where you will go. God takes no pleasure in this, but this is YOUR CHOICE. You might say “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell”. Well, God doesn’t send you to hell!
YOU SEND YOURSELF TO HELL if you don’t accept Jesus’ offer of Salvation!
Here’s what Hell is like just incase you’re wondering:
1. HELL IS A REAL PLACE! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN HELL OR NOT! IT’S STILL THERE AND YOU’RE STILL GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT JESUS AS SAVIOR!
2. Hell is a place where you will burn forever and ever in a blazing fire. Your suffering will NEVER end, and it NEVER stops. You will never get even one SECOND of rest from the pain. Revelation 14:11 says that “…and they have no rest day nor night…”, that’s not all of the verse, but it’s stating that you will never get any relief from your torment.
3. You will cry and weep forever and ever over your refusal to accept Jesus as Savior, which will add to the torment since that simple prayer would have saved you from this place of never-ending torment.
4. You won’t even get a DROP OF WATER to ease your pain(Luke 16:24). Nothing. Your pain is NEVER eased. NEVER.
So, there you have it. A description of what Hell will be like if you decide to go there by rejecting Jesus.
DON’T LET THIS CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS SLIP BY!
You might not get another chance! This might be your last chance to accept Jesus as Savior, since you really don’t know when you’re going to die! Don’t think “Well, I’ll just wait until I get older”, because you could die before then! You could even die tonight even! And if you die without Jesus, then you will go to hell. Proverbs 27:1 says “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.” So, you see, you don’t know if you will have another chance to get saved, so heed this warning now!
Here’s the Salvation Prayer again that I put up earlier that you can pray if you want to accept Jesus as Savior.
“God, I recognize that I have not lived my life for You up until now. I have been living for myself and that is wrong. I need You in my life; I want You in my life. I acknowledge the completed work of Your Son Jesus Christ in giving His life for me on the cross at Calvary, and I long to receive the forgiveness you have made freely available to me through this sacrifice. Come into my life now, Lord. Take up residence in my heart and be my king, my Lord, and my Savior. From this day forward, I will no longer be controlled by sin, or the desire to please myself, but I will follow You all the days of my life. Those days are in Your hands. I ask this in Jesus' precious and holy name. Amen.”
You must pray in Jesus’ name! If you don’t do that, then the prayer will not reach God’s ears! Sorry, but I’m not the one who makes the rules. This applies to every prayer you pray, not just the Prayer of Salvation! If you pray and don’t say “In Jesus’ name I pray”, then the prayer will not reach the ears of God.
I can’t explain everything, so I will leave you with two good Bible-Based websites to visit if you have internet access:
http://www.bible.com/ (Good website, it has the Bible on here, which you can read, and it also explains a few things).
http://www.amazingbible.org/ (GREAT site about the Bible, has TONS of information about prayer, Jesus, the Bible, and lots of other topics.)
However, you must not rely on these sites alone. You must also find yourself a good Bible-Based Church so that you can be with other Christians. Also, Jesus must be your primary teacher, but these sites can help you a lot in learning more about Jesus and about how to be a good Christian. I, personally, have gotten lots of good information off of these sites. However, these sites do NOT replace Praying and Studying the Bible, so you still have to Pray and Study the Bible, but again, these sites can be used as a HELP, but NOT as your primary source.
Alright, I pray that you will accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord and that those sites will help you in your walk with Jesus, should you accept him as Savior.
May God richly Bless your life.YAY!!!BLESS THEE!one soul sister here IN THE HOUSE!re-re-born again Christian.was born again in 2001 after huge house fire n miraculous saving then i fell big time n became a wiccan,doin tarot etc had nothing but nightmares because of it,n no blessing ccompared to the blessings i had wen i was a chrsitian n had no healing wen i was a wiccan..then i had huge revelation but basicly i sent myself to hell.because i lived a selfish life.<><
i felt the fire thru my veins there sheer toment ,but anyway one thing i disagree on you with is our father God sending his children to hell for a eternity,if u look into the hebrew bible you will notice there is not one mention of hell,just fire of lake,and if your name is not down in the book of life thats wer u shall go to perish(your soul will die)they will NOT be tormented for an eternity! wat loving father would do such a thing? the beast goes there for a eternity in torment so does the anit christ n one other thing does too i forget it of the top of my head.
God is love ,
Jesus is love n so is his testimony ppl who dont believe in it are basicly denying a story of love n humblness n sacrifice,wen they can believe in anything else bar Jesus tis sad really.
this is the only revolution this world is gunna see,a revival of the Lords ppl returning n helping others to return to him,zion is comming and comming fast and Jesus is gunna reighn over earth for a thousand years and ppl who believed n chose to listen to his callings n lives a unselfsih life to the bestest of there abilitys will reign there too,harmony peace purity will be zion,holy,how it should of been,ppl tho prefer to make do with this gutter of the world,But God cannot let the wickedness carry on in this world affecting his children zion is comming.
be prepard,if your ears hear l;isten n repent from your wickedness,and pray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
with love n real light amen.
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 08:48 PM
the church is inside us God is angry at fake christians turning them away from OUR father God jesus christ holy ,trinity,LOVE.n the wicked who thought God couldnt see them will pay.they pay lipservice but do not obey in there hearts.
REAL christianity is NOT religion is is the way.
the ten comandments are old testiment the only law to obey is LOVE.love with a unconditional LOVE!
ten comandments is religion but real God sets us free not to worship n idolise the sun and the stars but to worship the creator ALmighty God!!!
im free of drugs and smoke and marijuanna no reiki could heal me of that,nothing compares to the holy spirit.
its is not a dead religion but it is the way to zion.
LOVE IS THE ONLY LAW.
Playground Politics
25-05-2007, 08:49 PM
i had a nightmare of the world ending, and i think its coming to a place near u soon!
I have a quote for you DintheG:wink:
Morality is doing what you know is right regardless of what you have been told; religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.
:crazy_fre
I thought it was an interesting take on the problem
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 08:54 PM
AND BTW YOUR FALSE PROPHETS SHALL NEVER HELP YOU RETURN TO THE LORD.HE IS A JUSST GOD A LOVING AND LOYAL FATHER,NOT WAT SATAN TRIED TO MAKE HIM OUT TO BE!
BELIEVE IN JESUS BELIEVE IN ETERNAL LIFE N HAVE IT.
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 08:56 PM
sal about faith.real faith its biblical that we judge ourselfs.and at end of day we have been subconsciously conditioned with bible storys and hell.
those who ave ears hear.
think about it.
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 08:57 PM
\o/stand up for what you believe even if your standing alone!
\o/stand up for what you believe even if your standing alone!
Always raaa- great advice :wink:
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 09:09 PM
I have a quote for you DintheG:wink:
Morality is doing what you know is right regardless of what you have been told; religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.
:crazy_fre
I thought it was an interesting take on the problemi am not familiar with religion itsnot a part of me,u see im free.we all get our callings,i have seeked with a earnist heart n i have found.
i dont meen to be a doomsdayer,but God needs us as vessels for he is the host within us.
there is a very BIG spiritual warfare going on,the prince of this world is trying very very very hard to decieve us,but hang on in there if u have a ear to hear,repent earnestly n pray,my auty n uncle are REAL christians they dont believe in "church" but they are blessed ppl for it.religion free they had the snooty christian lookin down on them for not goin church,they dont celebrate christmas how most ppl do.free.
if u have a bible to hand open it randomly checkk it,tis living words.its real.see whats happening!
its spiritual warfare do not be decieved from LOVE= God the almight creator of all.jesus christ our friend our brother the son of God,us Gods children.
in real love n light! XxXbe blessed.
I dont do religion either :noway: its a corruption of the truth to suit hidden agendas and doesnt help us find the path
May your force be with you always :love:
DaNcInGalaxie
25-05-2007, 09:16 PM
I dont do religion either :noway: its a corruption of the truth to suit hidden agendas and doesnt help us find the path
May your force be with you always :love:yay,real christianiy=ppl of the way.
even if mans law tells you to disobey Gods law dont do it,God is the almighty and he rules n protects us all in ways our understanding sumtimes cannot comprehend.
but he is angry at idolaships.
hell well? if your not a believer in jesus christ and dont do Gods will,we will tremble on the comming day of the Lord and there will be weeping and gnashin of teeth.pls,i pray God will touch all of us.and guide his flock back home to zion,and be liberated and free..these raves are not free they are chained to drugs.Gods children are freee.
paulfh
25-05-2007, 11:15 PM
Normally by dieing.Hope this helps
Normally by dieing.Hope this helps
:biggreen:
paulfh
25-05-2007, 11:39 PM
i am not familiar with religion itsnot a part of me,u see im free.we all get our callings,i have seeked with a earnist heart n i have found.
i dont meen to be a doomsdayer,but God needs us as vessels for he is the host within us.
there is a very BIG spiritual warfare going on,the prince of this world is trying very very very hard to decieve us,but hang on in there if u have a ear to hear,repent earnestly n pray,my auty n uncle are REAL christians they dont believe in "church" but they are blessed ppl for it.religion free they had the snooty christian lookin down on them for not goin church,they dont celebrate christmas how most ppl do.free.
if u have a bible to hand open it randomly checkk it,tis living words.its real.see whats happening!
its spiritual warfare do not be decieved from LOVE= God the almight creator of all.jesus christ our friend our brother the son of God,us Gods children.
in real love n light! XxXbe blessed.You do realise that none of that actually makes any sense dont you
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:27 AM
call ME insane look at u following a girl around the bourd tryin to get her to hold back her freedom of expression by calling her mad wen youve never ever met her.
pssssht do one.
paulfh
26-05-2007, 12:30 AM
call ME insane look at u following a girl around the bourd tryin to get her to hold back her freedom of expression by calling her mad wen youve never ever met her.
pssssht do one.Nope.Just posting on the active threads and saw you were spouting total shite
globalloon
26-05-2007, 12:33 AM
hell well? if your not a believer in jesus christ and dont do Gods will,we will tremble on the comming day of the Lord and there will be weeping and gnashin of teeth.pls,i pray God will touch all of us.and guide his flock back home to zion,and be liberated and free.
even if you actually believe that dogma, please, keep it out of the forums... we're here to discuss things, not put up walls to communication
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:35 AM
even if you actually believe that dogma, please, keep it out of the forums... we're here to discuss things, not put up walls to communicationsense a bit of irony in your post? i do think so,sense a bit of fear? i do think so,if you have your soul idea's sorted whats the problem?
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:37 AM
chuck me out then..do wat u wish but il express myself as i God dam well please...if u read my posts on this threead yall see i meen none of u no harm just furthering a topic discusion.
paulfh
26-05-2007, 12:37 AM
even if you actually believe that dogma, please, keep it out of the forums... we're here to discuss things, not put up walls to communicationWell your lucky you havent seen the rest of the bollocks shes been spouting recently.For instance how the bad situations in some African nations is due to their ancestors idolatry.Now that as well as being complete shite was also religiously inaccurate as well
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:39 AM
Well your lucky you havent seen the rest of the bollocks shes been spouting recently.For instance how the bad situations in some African nations is due to their ancestors idolatry.Now that as well as being complete shite was also religiously inaccurate as welli dont follow religion i follow TRUTH.
listen to sumone who u dont know n judge sumone by what they say,more fool you.
globalloon
26-05-2007, 12:40 AM
sense a bit of irony in your post?
err dogma Vs debate
* (DING DONG announcement) this is an announcement: can definition get a grip
paulfh
26-05-2007, 12:41 AM
i dont follow religion i follow TRUTH.
listen to sumone who u dont know n judge sumone by what they say,more fool you.I havent seen you posting any.As for judging you.You have proved yourself mental on more than one occassion and i beleive you probably have the certificate to proove that
paulfh
26-05-2007, 12:43 AM
err dogma Vs debate
* (DING DONG announcement) this is an announcement: can definition get a grip
Give up.She's full on mental.Also she'll have changed religion again in a few weeks
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:44 AM
err dogma Vs debate
* (DING DONG announcement) this is an announcement: can definition get a grip
whatsdogma,wen u take scriptures from pagan religions and still!use them to this day.whats the diferance..its a truth a truth that cuts like a double edge sword to the truth core of the matters and YYOU playing devils advocate aint gunna stop this revolution thats gunna happen.
see u on the other side or maybe not if not enjoy your short lil stay on this defiled evil wicked world.cant see the sin? then u have the mark of the beast.
zion is comming for the hildrens sake n there nothing the enemy can do about it part from snatch more of Gods children into deception and you help satan to do that? more fool you!
GOD BLESSS"!
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:45 AM
Give up.She's full on mental.Also she'll have changed religion again in a few weekswill i heck,listen to u like a little snake in ones ear.
urgh.
i was born again christian once b4 n this ma second calling,cant help if no one in your family cared enuff bout you to teach u the truth so your ears could hear it.
paulfh
26-05-2007, 12:46 AM
Can someone please explain to me what a hildren is?
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:46 AM
I havent seen you posting any.As for judging you.You have proved yourself mental on more than one occassion and i beleive you probably have the certificate to proove thatyour attack is weak.why dnt u give up u must be draining yourself,oh thats right your dead already.
n use the same words over n over again.
DaNcInGalaxie
26-05-2007, 12:47 AM
Can someone please explain to me what a hildren is?commen sense in there attal?
dear Lord have pity!
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