Driving stoned

["Sound-Guy"]

Dunno if this has already happened in other places but ob do on the spot tests now, can give you ban + points strait up! cunts:get_you:

[globalloon]

apparently english forces are targetted to carry out 1,000,000 spot drug driving tests this year

[elretardo87]

TBH I do think driving while on any type of drugs is just as bad as drink driving, but surely there must be a limit. I mean they can't just bust you for being stoned...surely you must be too stoned to drive.

As its much like drinking beer...dependin on how much you drink or smoke, your ability to drive is inhibited accordingly.

Obviously its a bit more difficult to moderate as they can hardly say...1 joint or whatever. As you could probably gettin away with smoking your own bodyweight in soap bar, but they must somewhere have some sort of parts per thousand measurement....

Just a thought.

[Mariasupial]

I dunno how they'll set the limits here, but in Germany, if you test positive then you are arrested - even if you haven't smoked that day or have nothing on you.

A French friend of ours fell foul of this law at the Strasbourg Protest and was held at the police station for 4 hours and fined 400 euros.

[Raj]

I dunno how they'll set the limits here, but in Germany, if you test positive then you are arrested - even if you haven't smoked that day or have nothing on you.

A French friend of ours fell foul of this law at the Strasbourg Protest and was held at the police station for 4 hours and fined 400 euros.

how does this test work?

[General Lighting]

I dunno how they'll set the limits here, but in Germany, if you test positive then you are arrested - even if you haven't smoked that day or have nothing on you.

I expect it wil be much the same. Unlike alcohol these drugs are illegal EU-wide so the punishment is for having the illegal drug as well as driving.

Incidentally I read somewhere (probably one of the IT techie websites or a crime news site) that traffic cops of UK, DE, FR, ES and (I think) IT are finally starting to link up systems for vehicle tracking / info sharing in preparation for EU-wide traffic monitoring.

The blue bit on your numberplate with the country code and the EU stars is part of this; it was put there so the computers linked to road cameras can instantly (and more quickly) work out which country your car is from.

That said at the moment if you are legal there isn't much to worry about; TBH I reckon its main use will be for road toll charging for long distance lorry drivers. OTOH who knows what else it could be used for..


A French friend of ours fell foul of this law at the Strasbourg Protest and was held at the police station for 4 hours and fined 400 euros.

Is that who I think it could be? Unlucky - thats a lot of cash :(

[Mariasupial]

how does this test work?

Forehead sweat swab.

Our friend got busted on the way to the rave.

The local police said that they were going to test every driver leaving the rave too, but in the end EVERYONE stayed on site and left together - I think the police thought it a tad impractical to test all of the 200 or so drivers for drugs otherwise they would have been stuck with 1000 ravers unable to go anywhere!!!

[Mariasupial]

Is that who I think it could be? Unlucky - thats a lot of cash :(

Yes, Gerard the Frog was not a happy man. :-(

[General Lighting]

The local police said that they were going to test every driver leaving the rave too, but in the end EVERYONE stayed on site and left together - I think the police thought it a tad impractical to test all of the 200 or so drivers for drugs otherwise they would have been stuck with 1000 ravers unable to go anywhere!!!

I guess cops couldn't really argue with that... :)

OTOH if the EU social control/monitoring/immigration rules (all are linked) were really as tight as some people (even ravers) seem to want them to be, things could have been way different...

[cliffchuff]

If you are tested and its positive for drugs, say nothing and wait for a solicitor, as most drugs are in the system for several days there cannot be a supposition that you are unfit to drive unless you are an idiot and admit to being high/stoned!
cannabis stays in the system for weeks, so in order to have a chance of conviction they would need a series of tests over time with depleting levels of a drug to have a chance of unsafe driving conviction.

this does not hold for opiates as it is illegal to drive with any in your system at any time as anyone on a script will know (though you can get permission with medical evidence if you are stable on a long term script)

otherwise this is rubbish and just because there are test cases going through globally dosen't mean diddly.

the inference is on the police to prove you are unfit to drive seek legal advice and say nothing.

[Raj]

Knew one guy who passed his test stoned...:devil_wag

Had a 5 litre bucket before he set off to calm his nerves...

(he smoked quite a lot in those days):surprised:surprised:surprised:alien_abd

["Sound-Guy"]

If you are tested and its positive for drugs, say nothing and wait for a solicitor, as most drugs are in the system for several days there cannot be a supposition that you are unfit to drive unless you are an idiot and admit to being high/stoned!
cannabis stays in the system for weeks, so in order to have a chance of conviction they would need a series of tests over time with depleting levels of a drug to have a chance of unsafe driving conviction.

this does not hold for opiates as it is illegal to drive with any in your system at any time as anyone on a script will know (though you can get permission with medical evidence if you are stable on a long term script)

otherwise this is rubbish and just because there are test cases going through globally dosen't mean diddly.

the inference is on the police to prove you are unfit to drive seek legal advice and say nothing.

Nice 1, will keep this in mind.
Mate of mine got tested this time last year, aint heard nothing since!
Another mate got caught sat in his car gettin stoned and yeah they nicked him but didnt even test him! they even had the courtesy to give him a lift back to his car so he could drive home blazed to fuk!

[Angel]

TBH I do think driving while on any type of drugs is just as bad as drink driving, but surely there must be a limit. I mean they can't just bust you for being stoned...surely you must be too stoned to drive.

As its much like drinking beer...dependin on how much you drink or smoke, your ability to drive is inhibited accordingly. Actually thought i was the only one with that oppinion,a drug is a drug no matter if you eat it,drink it,or worse..Dont think my reflexes were to good when i had taken drugs(dont anymore)and it didnt matter what kind of drugs it was..

["Sound-Guy"]

Actually thought i was the only one with that oppinion,a drug is a drug no matter if you eat it,drink it,or worse..Dont think my reflexes were to good when i had taken drugs(dont anymore)and it didnt matter what kind of drugs it was..

Ok so yeah it does slow your reactions but i've smoked dope for years so i can do somethings better stoned n anyway, i always hit the brakes in time! lol

[Angel]

Ok so yeah it does slow your reactions but i've smoked dope for years so i can do somethings better stoned n anyway, i always hit the brakes in time! lolI have a friend there is an alcoholic who say the same thing.He drives better when he have had somthing to drink..Are you guys serious ??

["Sound-Guy"]

I have a friend there is an alcoholic who say the same thing.He drives better when he have had somthing to drink..Are you guys serious ??

Now drinking n driving is a different story n something i am against.
Alcohol nearly fuked my family up in a house so fuk drinking that shit then gettin in a car! Also Drink driving nearly killed a friend n kills millions!

[Angel]

Now drinking n driving is a different story n something i am against.
Alcohol nearly fuked my family up in a house so fuk drinking that shit then gettin in a car! Also Drink driving nearly killed a friend n kills millions!Had a friend get killed,because him who drived the car was stoned..Okay it could offcourse have happend anyway.But my good mate will never know..

[marcusblanc]

i don't think cannabis improves anyone's drivin, but it's definitely not the same as driving pissed. i've driven stoned quite alot really, i started on motorbikes when i was 16, and it was more a gradual realisation that i seemed to cope pretty easily with it, 2 be honest. It tends to make u a bit more careful, if anything. 4 2 years, i commuted regularly on my mbike right across London, which is really quite demanding, concentration wise!

i absolutely do not recommend this to any one else. but this is my experience.

of course, if u cause injury to others, the debate about wot level of deteriation a particular drug might have, will seem like semantics. if u hit some one stoned, pissed, speeding, racing, whilst on ur mobile, showing off to your girlfriend or eatin a big fat sarny, whatever, u are responsible, and u should expect to get the book thrown at u.

drive safe:bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

[Angel]

Okay i see myself beat..I dont drive so i have no experience in drugs/alcohol/driving..But that dosent mean i think it is right.In Denmark you dont get tested for drugs when you are stopped by the police,think they sometime should..

Drive safe...If not for yourself,then for everybody else..

[Raj]

mmmhhmm

its an arguement with strong opinions on both sides always

[General Lighting]

I think a lot of ravers actually drive safer than normal "townies" of the same age and are more concious of their driving standards!

apart from the safety aspect these days in Britain there are a lot of cops watching anyone who is young and out late at night, and once the traffic cops have got a good reason to stop a car (such as speeding/blatant disregard of signs/signals) they can then search the driver and passengers, which no-one wants to happen.

[sjbr101]

FACT:

Driving whilst stoned causes you to undergo huge amounts of stress because unlike alcohol, you are fully aware of the fact you are stoned, and know that it is not a good idea to drive. Because of this stoned drivers DO drive slower and so are less likely to crash than drunk drivers, however both cannabis and alcohol have a very similar effect on the brain as far as reactions are concerned and so you are still more likely to crash than a sober person.

For Example:

Remember the amazed look on your face when you actually caught the fag packet you mate threw to you across the room, followed by the silence as everyone acknowledges what a good catch it was.

WOW aren't you amazing, you caught a fag packet probably thrown no more than 2 meters! Try doing it when sober, believe me, it's not THAT amazing!

Driving requires massive use of co-ordination; you use both legs and both hands. Think of what you do when you change gear......Ease off accelerator while also depressing clutch...take your left hand(or right) off the steering wheel... move the gear lever from one gear to another... then while putting your hand back on the wheel raise your left foot off the clutch and press the accelerator down and drive on, and you do this all without looking at your hands and feet just the road .........and remember at this point you think catching a fag packet is amazing !

Basically we have all done it, stoned, pilled up, coked up, or just really mashed up on anything. But at the end of the day we know really deep down that it's not the best idea, people die in car crashes and lives are ruined, don’t let a bit of a smoke make you another statistic.