Give Norfolk a Rest

[jack_daniels]

Party a different county once in a while...

Arrests made at illegal rave

17 February 2008 13:00

Police swooped on an illegal rave near Thetford in the early hours - the second such event to be disrupted in a week.

Patrol officers had reported convoys of vehicles building up in the area, which led to a large number of police units and the force helicopter being dispatched to woodland around Feltwell.

About 400 people were discovered playing amplified music off Fire Ride 48 at about 2am.

Within an hour, officers attended the scene and were able to negotiate and immediately stop the event.

The surrounding area was sealed and officers prevented a “substantial” number of other people and vehicles gaining access.

A large quantity of both sound and lighting equipment, and a number of vehicles, were seized and arrests made in connection with the alleged possession and supply of controlled drugs and failing to stop for police.

Other revellers have been reported for prosecution for offences including road traffic matters.

Chief Insp Mike Brown said: “Last night's police activity was part of an ongoing operation to address concerns raised legitimately by law abiding citizens of the disruption and damage caused by such illegal music events.

“For the second weekend, good intelligence and pro-active policing has enabled us to move in and disrupt an unlicensed musical event. This robust stance will continue and I encourage members of the community to support this by passing to police any information which points towards the potential for such an event to take place.”

http://new.edp24.co.uk/

[MisterDuck]

innit

norfolk majorly fucked up in 2007, party-wise

had the rest of the countrys partyers (and to be fair, most norfolkers too!) shakin our heads

[spangle]

how difficult is it to realsie that if your repetedly getting heavily busted & causing a clampdown, dont throw partys in the same places!!

[General Lighting]

the harsh reality is as far as ravers and attitudes are concerned there really isn't that much difference between East Anglia and SE England.

I've seen all this stuff happen 7-8 years ago in SE England particularly along Berks/Bucks/Oxon. The SE England crews caned the Ridgeway (a long track which goes through SE England) in exactly the same way as Thetford Forest, and got clamped down on in a similar manner (roadblocks, surveillance, rigs being confiscated).

All that has happened is that due to Norfolk's relative remoteness, smaller police force strengths, and the stubborness of the ravers, parties were left alone for some years until they got to a stage where they were causing genuine problems to the locals who have demanded action, hence this latest clampdown...

the only reason SE Englands remaining crews are a bit more clued up is because many of them also learnt the hard way (and even today many counties there are on full zero tolerance)

[elretardo87]

I can't find the article but I read that Jim May (of TV zero tolerance fame) has been.is about to be transfered to Norfolk.

Fun times ahead.

[General Lighting]

I heard other rumours that Jim May had reached retirement age, although this would not stop him working as a civilian consultant...

there was actually a press release dated 15th Feb on Norfolk constabulary website warning ravers that they were going to do this and why the clampdown was in effect - I guess people "didn't want to read the bad news" even when it was staring them in the face

another problem is that its not actually possible to party outside Norfolk as all the other counties got rinsed a few years back and because of this the cops will work together across force boundaries now (or even with SE England forces if need be)

The home office spent a billion quid and roasted 3 coppers alive with radiation to get the airwave radios working precisely so they could co-ordinate "multi force deployments" to shut down such things as illegal raves..

[lilmstrixta]

do you think it would work if they quitened down ffor a while though i was talking to a girl on the bus this morning who went to this one and she was saying that they turned them away before they even got there.

It seems they got the attitude that theres a mini early 90s summer of love happening down there n the fash police are gona treat it as sutch.

[General Lighting]

Norfolk was the last area of the Southern/Eastern UK to get clamped down on and to be fair it did seem like the rest of society actually cut ravers some slack for a few years

Its not just the feds who are complaining but also the farmers and locals, plus the bad image ravers have given themselves..

there are people now on the scene who seem to have started taking drugs regularly soon after leaving middle school and it has affected their emotional development to the point they have become selfish and impulsive to the point they can be dysfunctional/anti-social (vandalising stuff, not helping clear up, being rude to locals etc)

my older friends from round this way who used to do parties have given up years ago because they could see all this coming

there was all sorts of rum things happening here, livestock being harrassed, farm machinery broken etc, also people would video the parties and put them on youtube and not always the good bits - people stumbling around on ket, smashing up stuff etc..

its got to the stage where the rest of society (not just the cops) feel bullied/initimdated by the raves and demanded that the police take action - last year there was people writing to their MPs etc..

actually exactly the same thing happened in South East England from 2003-2006 after a boom in parties.. seems that people don't realise what they had till its gone..

to many dicks with bad attitudes attending in the UK imo. things changed for the worse with d&b and ketamine.

[General Lighting]

Originally posted by MrAHC

to many dicks with bad attitudes attending in the UK imo. things changed for the worse with d&b and ketamine.

both these things were around long before the problems started with Norfolk - that area (and SE England) was once one of the friendliest places to party in the entire UK (last year there was still elements of that euphoria..)

I fear its a lot simpler than that. The area just became a victim of its own success, people were getting away with it every weekend and took it for granted, started thinking they were above the law...

[jack_daniels]

Originally posted by General Lighting

both these things were around long before the problems started with Norfolk - that area (and SE England) was once one of the friendliest places to party in the entire UK (last year there was still elements of that euphoria..)

I fear its a lot simpler than that. The area just became a victim of its own success, people were getting away with it every weekend and took it for granted, started thinking they were above the law...

very true and now the time has come 'zero tolerance and they still think they can party norfolk i really dont understand them

[General Lighting]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7250000/newsid_7251000/7251064.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&nol_storyid=7251064 &bbcws=1#

there now seems to be a new Forestry chap dealing with the media and he's even more clued up about how raves work (at least the economics of them) than the last one, and is ready with counter-arguments to the usual "justifications" for raves..

they do know a fair bit about observing wildlife and its behaviour though (and dealing with pest species)

that hall party what went royally pear-shaped doesn't help either...

[MisterDuck]

dear me

lets hope the north can learn from the mistakes you talk about GL, unfortunately certain manchester crew has aggravated a bit last yeah afaik.

however yorkshire in particular and further north has no particular clampdown, but i think we need to be careful seein the clampdown the south have had!

people may say its inevitable eventually but i'm not so sure

Originally posted by boothy

dear me

lets hope the north can learn from the mistakes you talk about GL, unfortunately certain manchester crew has aggravated a bit last yeah afaik.

however yorkshire in particular and further north has no particular clampdown, but i think we need to be careful seein the clampdown the south have had!

people may say its inevitable eventually but i'm not so sure

depends on the attitude of the crews and party goers. just dont take the piss and treet the old bill with respect if they turn up.

[General Lighting]

Originally posted by boothy

dear me

people may say its inevitable eventually but i'm not so sure

the terrain is way different.

unless you lot manage to destroy some area of natural beauty, trash high value buildings or start a war with the local scallies, (which is what may have happened in manchester) most of Yorkshire is wild country and sheep country where raves cause a lot less damage than when they end up on prime arable farmland.

that said the same could be said for Wales and this area got rinsed and locked down too

don't pick all the same areas/same farms, don't trash the place and make sure your parties aren't being attended by scum (i.e those who do real crime such as violence/repeat burglaries of houses) and it hopefully shouldn't be too on top.

[hyperSkunk]

anyone know where the party was held? i know it was down track 46/48 or something like that. and whos rig was out that night? unlucky for them 2 get shut down, i probably wont go to a party until the summer months, nice and warm ^ . ^

[Davetherave]

if u watch the news report they show the rig names on the bar sign.

[General Lighting]

its a shame as that is one of the crews who would actually have at least tried to clear up and hold the party a bit more responsibly...

[hyperSkunk]

what was the reason that it got closed down? public complaint? too much noise? a majority of the time the OB aren't bothered as long as you aren't disturbing others..............but i think differently now.

[General Lighting]

probably a combination of complaints from Forestry Commission officers (they are government officers whose word is instantly accepted by the Police) and residents of Breckland (the district in which Thetford Forest is in )

half the time its not the rave which pisses people off but the convoys that are constantly doubling back and forth through feltwell, mundford, thetford etc trying to find the place

most other people in that area are asleep by midnight so its obvious what the extra vehicles in the area are up to...

[Tocooltom]

Originally posted by General Lighting

its a shame as that is one of the crews who would actually have at least tried to clear up and hold the party a bit more responsibly...

Yeh this rig (well, half of it) has not had any trouble with the police before and they always clear up after their partys coz i have helped them before!

[hyperSkunk]

Originally posted by Tocooltom

Yeh this rig (well, half of it) has not had any trouble with the police before and they always clear up after their partys coz i have helped them before!

did the ob find the party or was there a convoy n the police followed them?

[Tocooltom]

Ob probly already found out whre it was thye were jus waiting for every1 to get ther so they cud bust it and put it all over the news, the seemed pretty clued up bout where they wer goin n that, they did hav the police chopper tho so they cud find a party anywhere.

[MisterDuck]

http://squatjuice.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=134472

bahahaha

oh dear norfolk

i try to shy away from the whole "norfolk-bashing" as it seems a bit generalisation but cmon... how often does a county need to fuck up before it realises?

i doesnt happen anywhere else ffs.