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here are some basic guidance notes to help you fill in a Temporary Event Notice (TENs) if you choose to go down this route for any party you are throwing
the TENs has been designed as a 'soft-touch' license for small, one off events. Applying for one means that if things go badly wrong, the authorities will have your name. If your party is well organised, you shouldn't have anything to worry about and your party can't be stopped by the cops unless you are breaking the conditions in the TENs Quote:
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pubs, social clubs, village halls can also apply Quote:
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try "recorded music and dancing at private birthday celebration" or whatever is relevant to your party (leaving party, wedding party, beltane etc) Quote:
i haven't gone for a bar yet, but if you know a friendly publican or off license, there is scope to sell alcohol. we've only taken the hot food and drinks route thus far, but knock yourself out and come and tell us all how it went, bar-side Quote:
I would recommend planning for setting up, testing out your equipment, the main event as well as packing up time. you have 96 hours! Quote:
you should have at least 1 steward to every 100 people at any one time. at least some of these should be trained in fire safety, first aid, security etc. Quote:
but you can sell / supply beer if you want to... now you've completed your form, you want to check that it's accurate, because the declartion you will need to sign at the end goes like this Quote:
good luck and enjoy the party! ![]() Last edited by globalloon; 11-07-2006 at 11:03 AM.. |
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good advice; a bit of info about specifying the location..
OS maps in libraries are sometimes out of date (libraries budgets have been slashed drastically) - but you can buy the more detailed OS maps or plans (a map with scale below 1:6000 is sometimes called a plan) from a "TSO bookshop" (one which sells Government books and papers); they are also sold on-line Bear in mind that although GPS (satnav) equipment can also generate grid references; due to the different mapping models used there can be positional errors of up to 100 feet. This can make quite a difference when you are specifiying boundaries of places! If you were not taught this in school or have since forgotten, this article shows how to obtain a grid reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British...ference_system --- Seriantia que quondam fuit Rollandi le Pettour in Hemingeston in comitatu Suff’, pro qua debuit facere die Natali Domini singulis annis coram domino rege unum saltum et sifflettum et unum bumbulum. 15 cans of Adnams.. ![]() |
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a very important part of the process is dealing with Health and Safety requirements for the event
mostly these are common sense measuresthis is called a risk assessment and is done by sitting down and working out how many different ways people can find in which to hurt/endanger themselves on your chosen site....and believe me the punters can be well creative ![]() ![]() ![]() ___________________________________________ an easy way to get the risk assesssment done is to start by identifying all the possible hazards ![]() ![]() ![]() 1. choose your site 2. go round the site and look at physical hazards relating to it [ditches, walls, rivers, sudden drops, trees, etc,etc] and make a full and complete list of all of them. remember to include the access to and from the site. once you have exhausted the possibilities of the site then 3. move on to stuff you are bringing on to the site for the event so in the case of a dance event that is your soundsystem, lights, generator, tents, bar, etc - again identify any possible hazard (however insignificant it may seem to you) such as tripping over guyropes and cables; electrics getting wet, muppets falling over and knocking the stacks down, electric shocks, etc and add those to the list in a new section 4. now you consider the potentially most hazardous part - list all the possible hazards you can create by bringing people onto the site [remember to include hazards arising from intoxication - people do stupid things when they have had too much of anything] 5. finally add the hazards which arise from the weather and its potential extremes ____________________________ Once you have the list above you then sit down and work out who is actually at risk - so joe public, crew only, inebriated people and so on [ in a lot of cases everyone will be at risk; dont panic this is normal] ![]() _____________________ identify the risks each hazard poses as an example: uneven ground poses a falling and a slipping risk everyone on the site is at risk of this traffic on the site is a hazard which poses a risk of hitting people, a risk of hitting structures and a risk of collision with other vehicles again all on site are at risk of this one risks which may be restricted are those in crew only areas or related to the use of eg. lpg in camping areas ok you have your hazards and your risks now; do the above before you try to move on to the next bit - it will save you time in the long run [ trust me i know having learnt the hard way] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ___________________________ the next bit is where you look at each RISK [not hazard] individually and assign a number from 1 [low] to 10 [high] according to how likely it is to happen [ you can put in brackets next to it a figure for extreme weather as this can make some risks far more likely] ______________________________ ok so now you have the risks for the site ![]() go and get someone to give you a big pat on the back; it gets easier from now on in ![]() ________________________________- now you work out what are called control measures for each risk - this means that you reduce the risk in some appropiate way so it is As Low As Reasonably Possible [AFARP] and the risk, So Far As Is Reasonably Possible [SFAIRP], is minimised going with the examples above: Vehicles: you can ban nighttime traffic on the site to reduce likelihood of collision with pedestrians and also use stewards to direct traffic at all times to minimise all forms of collisions Uneven Ground: you can cut the grass so it is easier to see where the ground is uneven; also fill in any bigtime potholes so people dont fall into them ![]() _________________________________ ok so now you have the control measures you need to work out if they are feasible - you do this by working out how much the risk is reduced by the measure, whether the measure in itself causes new risks worse than those it is avoiding and how expensive it is going to be to implementto do this assign the risk a new severity score with the control measure implemented - is the reduction in risk going to be enough to outweigh the hassle of using the control measure [if the risk is not reduced enough to justify the control measure it is called a tolerable risk] [ as an example it was once suggested to me that i should put up metal fencing along the sides of a river running through the middle of the site - not very sensible as the uneven ground and wrecked partygoers made it a bigger risk IMO than the river itself ie. it could have fallen on someone, someone could have climbed it and hurt themselves, etc - so i got round this by having 5 extra stewards on 'river' patrol and lighting it at night so we could see if anyone fell in which looked really mad ] [ you have to have very good reasons and alternative solutions to the problem if you dont want to use an Enviromental Health Officer's suggested control measure but it can be done ]The point of control measures is to make the risk as small as is possible preferably as cheap as possible [for your benefit ]for a large number of risks stewards are the correct control measure TBH most other control measures [not stewards] are common sense like having first aiders, spare clothes, glowsticks on guy ropes, tennis balls on big tent spikes, cordonned off areas for crew only, safe fuel storage, speaker stacks tied down - once you do most of these once you will see they are well worth the extra work _____________________________ the good news is once you have done this once you can pretty much recycle large parts of the Risk Assessment every time you go to a new site [ so they take less time after the first one ]one of the reasons for having a risk assessment for an event is that, should something go badly wrong, you will be able to prove [asssuming you implement any control measures defined in it] that you have done all that is reasonable to keep the people at the event safe and that you have not failed in your duty of care to them ______________________________ NB with events on agricultural land which has animals on it most of the time the field has to be empty of cattle for a minimum 3 weeks before the event due to E-coli risks NB 2 human waste is the most dangerous excrement known so adequate toilet facilities are essential [be they portaloos, compost toilets or pit loos] check with the local Enviromental Health Officer and Enviromental Pollution Agency officer for what is acceptable if in doubt --- |
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at the moment it probably does depend on the type of event, and the local councils interpretation, but I'd be surprised if it didn't become more standard over the next couple of years. |
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main problem I see with TEN's is restricting numbers to 499. When we've advertised outdoor parties even slightly in advance we've been getting well over 500 so I'm not sure how we'd go about limiting the numbers unless we did it ticketed. I have had conversations with licensing up here suggesting you could maybe apply for more than one for the same event - ie. one for each rig, though I've not tried it and don't know if it's been tried by anyone / if it'd go through or not... would require an onside licensing team bending the rules slightly I think, and the guy might have been talking bollocks but worth checking out. |
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sounds like bollocks to me
![]() and getting one license for an event does not guarantee getting all of them [I heard from someone I know about an event which was granted its alcohol license but not its TENs - result £600 out of pocket and unable to use the venue even though they could sell alcohol ] |
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Then again the administration of them is largely done at the council and polices discretion, so as I said if they're on board then anything's possible. The initial suggestion surrounded the licensing of a big free council funded community festival I was running at the time when it looked likely that the license might fuck up because the council licensing people hadn't got their shit together - they basically said if necessary they'd push the license for the event through on multiple TEN's, with one for each stage. It's obviously a different scenario to a free party, but shows that technically it may be possible. |
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seriously thinking about giving this a try for a beach party at a venue we've done regularly with no problems for the last 10 years or so. will report back if we go for it |
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A note on deadlines for TENs - these usually have a minimum period before the event by which they have to be submitted.
I think it is about 10 days [this is on the advise of a licensing officer who kindly took the time to read this thread] but remember to check with your local council as they may have elected to use a longer minimum period before the event occurs for these submissions. This delay allows the documentation you are providing to be circulated to the police, licensing department, fire services, ambulance coordinator, etc for their comments and suggestions/conditions to be attached to the license when one is hopefully granted to you. [I will take this chance to point out that the longer the submission is in before the event the more chance the council officials will have to ask you to make modifications to it which may facilitate the grant of a license - ask for the officials input informally before you submit if you are worried about a particular aspect ] |
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just thought it was timely to point out that over august bank holiday there were a number of very good quality parties around devon that had a TEN that all passed off without any hassle and the feedback from a lot of people has been that they were some of the best events in years
better than bigger festivals because they maintained that organic, intimate feel better than free party because there was no sketchyness and somewhere to go to the toilet better than any club because you could camp and make a weekend of it this is an opportunity to be used and used well... there has already been debate in parliament about stopping TENs because it could make it too easy fro raves to happen, so we need to use it and prove that most crews, DJs and party goers just want to have some good natured fun and are cool enough to do it without causing any problems to anyone else if we can do that, the riot-heads can be alienated altogether and we could win back some respect and more importantly, freedom |
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it might also be worth mentioning that many local authorities have or are in the process of licensing their land / public spaces etc
so, for example, I'm organising a 1-day community festival at the moment... i don't have to even apply for a license, just permission to use the land (this involves showing public liability insurance, safety measures, who is responsible for clearing up etc) and is free we're anticipating a couple of thousand people, will have live bands, DJ & MC workshops, headline acts, circus, fun fair etc and have tapped into grants available to any community group to cover the costs this is a good way to get your local council to get on board... i realise that it will be harder in some areas (we're lucky in Exeter to have a fairly forward-thinking council) but this kind of thing is worth the effort... bear in mind the amount of work involved in throwing a free party and the potential risks... this is like a walk in the park... or a festival in the park: t be more precise ![]() |
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Interesting stuff. Although not sure if I want to risk it in this currant climate.
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Even the Suffolk cops and councils have hinted they would accept licensed events I expect they wouldn't be pushovers with regard to safety/licensing conditions and it would be a fair bit of effort, but the outcome seems better to me than 70 riot cops shutting down parties and confiscating rigs. OK the hearts and minds bit may not be easy due to past mistakes but what is actually holding people back? Is it "fear of babylon" or more that EA ravers at present simply lack the organisational skills, discipline and comradeship required to even apply for such an event - or if one were to happen (some) perhaps couldn't be trusted to behave appropriately, so the more sensible people don't want to put their names on the line? Last edited by General Lighting; 05-10-2007 at 09:09 PM.. |
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Im seriously interested in these tens notices.
we got access to rig, djs, alcohol licence holder, just need a barn in cornwall with good access, and ill give it a go. Any ideas?? watch this space! |
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or a friendly campsite owner?
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bear in mind though 500 people is a lot of people especially for a new crew to start with and a TENS can allow up to 96 hours of partying. Most raves I have been to in East Anglia have about 200-250 people tops and a lot less than that normally... |
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