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#26
19-10-2008, 03:43 PM
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also we know the place since 12 y.and we r one of the peopel doing the first party in ciggi. in this time hardly anyone was living down there! our partys attracted lot's of people. many of them decided 2 live down in ciggi because of the nice vibe. later people got use 2 there new home and got bored of the partys and now they want 2 move the party and not there own arses . we live now in paraguay becaus of that, and our wish is the dragon for ever so all people could see the spirit, how 2 live 2 gether hand in hand  lots of love 2 the hole family! for we r a part from all Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 17-03-2009 at 09:05 PM.. 
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20-10-2008, 05:46 PM
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Dragon is not free anymore. I am sorry.
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21-10-2008, 09:40 AM
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Ok then.., why don't we move?, what about Tabernas Desert(Almeria), or Monegros Desert(Huesca), and make Dragon be a little bit like BurningMan(in the meaning of leaving no trace of festival after the event).
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#29
21-10-2008, 12:01 PM
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I think that Dragon Festival should happen in Las Alpujarras, because this is, for me, the spirit of the festival. It's a very energetic place. But of course, before than the festival no exists, we can move to other place.... portugal for example.... but.... I wish dragon festival 2009 will take place in las alpujarras.
What's about dragon festival web? Saludos para todos!!!!! TRaNSaHaRa 2009......
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30-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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Wow this old chestnut Dragon or not to Dragon, it does Drag on.
It is amazing how naive some people are viz this "it is not a disaster, it does no damage, it's really spiritual, if we can just get people to use toilets and bins... " Frankly bollocks! We are talking about several thousand people totally off of it on booze, dope, pillls, speed, ketamine, smack,crack, coke, usually all at once. It is pitch dark on a stony river bed. Do they really expect people in this condition to think about TOILETS? The dragon fest is the medieval priest´s vision of hell, sudden flashes of color, Stygian darkness interspersed with patches of yellow light, a million faces of every kind, from dopey young hippes to leery, minging, crusty k'd out piss head yobbos, staggering about telling every one they see to fuck off, trudging shadowy groups of people dodging 4x4 's full of bombed teenagers running on brain stem being driven at insane speeds through the puddles of the traditional Dragon rain, the earth trembling roaring earthquake rumble of a million competing mega K sound systems, packs of wild dogs feeding and fighting over the the dubious gobbets of food bought from the many grubby half lit stalls to assuage the munchies and dropped after a collision with a filthy, ragged, pissed six foot biker with enough metal in his face to start his own scrap yard. No. no one is going to be thinking about property or etiquette under these conditions. No one will be thinking of the neighbors, or who's vegetable garden they've fallen into. Not when they are stumbling around in the dark trying to find a quiet spot to throw up on. Now don't get me wrong, I have had many fantastic nights at the Dragon, ripped to the tits on pills and dancing my socks off, some of my best nights ever in fact, but don't lets kid ourselves that it is any way, nice, fluffy or spiritual. There is no way it is ever going to self police. The only way to solve these issues is a new site, tickets, stewards, and rules. And our average Dragon lover is not going to subscribe to that. Trouble is the white trash English folks of Tijola over the way have teamed up with their Spanish counterparts. These people get the lot and are not generally what you would call ravers. They are now organized with lawyers and now have the kind of political leverage which may well lead to confrontation and tears in the end. The Dragon really is the kind of thing that you could only get away with around here (I love Orgiva) and sadly I don't think it can be got away with much longer. So will the Dragon roar in 2009 ? We will see but please don't pretend that it is a good thing. If you are there, wasted & dancing it is great. For every one else it is a torture that goes on for days, and the state of the river bed after every one has gone ? It is like the aftermath of a nuclear accident in a sewage factory mixed with rubbish. Hundreds are needed to deal with the mess, equipped with those chemical warfare suits, but alas it is achieved by a brave few, many of whom never wanted the festival in the first place. It is not as if those in Los Cigarrones who hate the Dragon could leave while the fez is on. As you may imagine many of our lovely boozy British mingers will happily steal every thing that is nailed down, and these poor residents have to stay to try to exercise some kind of damage limitation, and it can be risky. One poor bastard I know was beaten for trying to stop people flatting his fence and parking in his garden! I think that the root of the problem is the name. Dragons are vicious, selfish, cunning and destructive beasts that lay waste to things. That is what dragons do and any one who believes otherwise is a fool. Go well all, F Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 05-11-2008 at 07:46 PM..
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11-11-2008, 01:39 PM
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--- BRILLIANT MADNESS  "Let me respectfully remind you, life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by... and opportunity is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed! Do not squander your life". Evening Gatha, Zen Mountain Monastery
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#34
11-11-2008, 03:31 PM
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Claro que debe hacerse de nuevo el Dragon.
Lo primero que yo veo es lo bueno del festival, gente de miles de sitios diferentes que se reunen, que hablan, que se divierten juntos; cada uno va a lo que quiere, compras comida o no, vas a performances o no, vas a lecturas de cuentos o lo que sea o no, conciertos o no, a los sound system de (como he visto por ahi escrito) hardcore, o no vas. Para algo es un festival gratuito y libre, no? De los problemas que se dicen aqui para mi el más grave, es el de la mierda que dejamos atrás (aunk yo recoja lo que ensucio me meto en el saco tambien). Tambien os digo a todos, yo nacido y criado en un pueblo de la vega granadina, que mucho mas que eso contaminan a diario miles de pesticidas y mmierda que se tira por ahi. Pero bien, eso no es escusa. Mejor concienciarnos, joder que si ves que alguien se deja su mierda, se lo digas: oye tu, recoge eso tio o tia. Pero no dejar de hacer el festival por eso; se va a hacer en otro sitio y se va a ensuciar ese otro sitio? espero no sea esa la vision o el pensamiento de la gente que vive alli y que no kiere que se haga el festival. lo del ruido, en verano se hacen fiestas en todos los pueblos del sur hasta bien alta la madrugada, y sigue durante el dia...y no es un problema. es un peligro para la salud? por el consumo de drogas? por poca higiene? que me lo expliquen porque no acabo de entenderlo. SOLO DOY MI OPINION. Y ES QUE SI AL DRAGON.POR CIERTO, SI AL DRAGON EN LAS ALPUJARRAS. venga gente, nos vemos la primavera que viene,hasta entonces a seguir disfrutando de todo! Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 17-03-2009 at 09:06 PM..
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11-11-2008, 03:48 PM
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For something it is a gratuitous festival and it frees, no? Of the problems that are said here for most serious my, he is the one of the excrement that we left back (aunk I gather what I soil I also put in the coat). I born and bred in a town of the granadina fertile valley say also you to all, that much more that contaminates thousands of pesticides on a daily basis and mmierda that is thrown that way. But well, that is not escusa. Better to bring back to consciousness to us, to joder that if you see that somebody leaves its excrement, you say it: it hears your, it gathers that uncle or aunt. But not to stop making the festival for that reason; one is going away to do elsewhere and one is going away to soil that other site? I hope is not that the vision or the thought of the people who live there and who not kiere that becomes the festival. the one of the noise, in summer celebrations in all the towns become of the south until high good the dawn, and follows during the day… and it is not a problem. it is a danger for the health? by the drug consumption? by little hygiene? that they explain it to me because I do not finish understanding it. I ONLY GIVE MY OPINION. Y ES QUE S.A. DRAGON. POR CIERTO, S.A. DRAGOON IN THE ALPUJARRAS. people come, we see the spring that comes, until then continuing enjoying everything! Yahoo! Babel Fish  Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 17-03-2009 at 09:06 PM..
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11-11-2008, 05:21 PM
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Guau este dragón viejo de la castaña o no al dragón, arrastra encendido. Es asombroso cómo es ingenuo alguna gente es viz este " no es un desastre, él no hace ninguÌn daño, it' de s espiritual realmente, si podemos apenas conseguir a gente utilizar servicios y el " de los compartimientos…; ¡Franco bollocks! Estamos hablando de vario mil personas totalmente apagado de él en los licores, droga, pillls, velocidad, ketamine, tortazo, grieta, coque, generalmente de una vez. Es negro como boca de lobo en una cama de río pedregosa.
¿Esperan realmente que la gente en esta condición piense en SERVICIOS? El dragón más fest es la visión medieval de los priest´s del infierno, flashes repentinos del color, oscuridad estigia entremezclada con los remiendos de la luz ámbar, millón de caras de cada clase, de hippes jovenes narcotizados a receloso, minging, k' crujiente; d hacia fuera piss a los yobbos principales, escalonando sobre decir todos que ven para irse a la mierda, caminando penosamente los grupos de personas vagos que esquivan 4x4 ' s por completo de los adolescentes bombardeados que funcionan en el vástago de cerebro que es conducido en las velocidades insanas a través de los charcos de la lluvia tradicional del dragón, el estruendo del terremoto del rugido del temblor de la tierra de millón de sistemas de sonido mega competentes de K, paquetes de perros salvajes que alimentan y que luchan sobre el gobbets dudosos del alimento comprados de las muchas medias paradas encendidas sucias para assuage los munchies y caídos después de una colisión con un motorista asqueroso, desigual, pissed de seis pies con bastante metal en su cara para comenzar su propia yarda del desecho. El No. nadie va a pensar en característica o etiqueta bajo estas condiciones. Nadie pensarán en los vecinos, o who' jardín vegetal they' de s; VE caida en. No cuando están tropezando alrededor en intentar oscuro encontrar un punto reservado para lanzar para arriba encendido. Ahora don' t me consigue mal, yo ha tenido muchas noches fantásticas en el dragón, rasgado a los tits en píldoras y el baile mis calcetines apagado, algunas de mis mejores noches siempre de hecho, pero don' t deja al cabrito nosotros mismos que es cualquier manera, agradable, mullido o espiritual. No hay manera que va nunca a la policía del uno mismo. La única manera de solucionar estas ediciones es un nuevo sitio, boletos, administradores, y reglas. Y nuestro amante medio del dragón no va a suscribir a eso. El apuro es la basura blanca que la gente inglesa de Tijola sobre la manera teamed para arriba con sus contrapartes españolas. Esta gente consigue la porción y no es generalmente lo que usted llamaría los ravers. Lo ahora organizan con los abogados y ahora tiene la clase de palancada política que bien puede llevar a la confrontación y a los rasgones en el extremo. El dragón es realmente la clase de cosa con la cual usted podría conseguir solamente lejos alrededor de aquí (amor Orgiva de I) y tristemente yo don' t piensa que puede ser conseguido ausente con mucho más de largo. ¿El dragón rugirá tan en 2009? Veremos pero por favor don' t finge que es una buena cosa. Si usted está allí, & perdido; el baile de él es grande. ¿Para todos es una tortura que se enciende por días, y el estado de la cama de río después todos ha ido? Es como las consecuencias de un accidente nuclear en una fábrica de las aguas residuales mezclada con desperdicios. Los centenares son necesarios ocuparse del lío, equipado de esos juegos de la guerra química, pero alas es alcanzado por un valiente pocos, muchos de quién nunca quiso el festival en el primer lugar. No es como si los en Los Cigarrones que odian el dragón podrían irse mientras que la Fes está prendido. Como usted puede imaginarse muchos de nuestros mingers británicos borrachos encantadores robarán feliz cada cosa que se clave abajo, y estos residentes pobres tienen que permanecer para intentar ejercitar una cierta clase de limitación del daño, y puede ser aventurado. ¡Un bastardo pobre que sé fue batido para intentar parar aplanamiento de la gente su cerca y parquear en su jardín! Pienso que la raíz del problema es el nombre. Los dragones son las bestias viciosas, egoístas, astutas y destructivas que ponen la basura a las cosas. Eso es lo que hacen los dragones y quién crea de otra manera es un tonto. Van bien todos, F Vale Bable fish ha hecho una puta de eso, pero a mi no pasa nada. No tengo ganas a puntar todo en castelleno. F Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 17-03-2009 at 09:01 PM..
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11-11-2008, 10:53 PM
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Wow this old dragoon of the chestnut or not to the dragoon, drags ignition. He is amazing how some people are ingenuous is viz east " it is not a disaster, he does not do ninguÌ n damage, it' of spiritual s really, if we can as soon as to be able to people to use services and " of the compartments…; Franc bollocks! We are speaking of I vary thousand people totally dull of him in liquors, it drugs, pillls, speed, ketamine, tortazo, cracks, coke, generally in one go. He is black like mouth of wolf in a stony bed of river. They really hope that people in this condition think about SERVICES?
The dragoon fest is more the medieval vision of priest´s of hell, sudden flashes of the color, the stygian dark intermingled with the remiendos of the yellow light, million faces of each class, hippes young narcotized to distrustful, minging, k' crisp; d towards goes piss to the main yobbos, staggering on saying all that see to go away to the excrement, walking laboriously the vague groups of people who avoid 4x4 ' s completely of the bombed adolescents who work in the brain piston rod that is lead in the insane speeds through the pools of the traditional rain of the dragoon, the roar of the earthquake of the roar of the Earth tremor of million systems of competent sound mega of K, packages of wild dogs that they feed and that fight on gobbets doubtful of the food bought of the many average shutdowns ignited dirty for assuage the munchies and fallen after a collision with a revolting motorist, unequal, pissed of six feet with metal in its face to begin its own yard of the remainder enough. The no. nobody is going to think about characteristic or labels under these conditions. Nobody will think about the neighbors, or who' vegetal garden they' of s; IT SEES fall in. Not when they are encountering around in trying dark to find a point reserved to send for above ignited. Now don' it obtains me to t bad, I has had many fantastic nights in the dragoon, torn to tits in pills and the dance my socks extinguished, some of my better nights always in fact, but don' t leaves pleasant, fluffy or spiritual to the cabrito we ourself that is any way. There is no way that never goes to the police of the one same one. The unique way to solve these editions is a new site, tickets, administrators, and rules. And our loving one half of the dragoon is not going to subscribe to that. The hardship is the white sweepings that the English people of Tijola on the way teamed for above with its Spanish counterparts. This people secure the portion and she is not generally what you would call ravers. Now they organize with the lawyers and now the palancada has class of political that can well take to the confrontation and rasgones in the end. The dragoon is really the thing class with which you could obtain only far around here (Orgiva love of I) and sadly I don' t thinks that it can be obtained absent by far more of length. The dragoon will rugirá so in 2009? We will see but don' please; t pretends that it is a good thing. If you are there, & lost; the dance of him is great. For all it is a torture that ignites per days, and the state of the bed of river later all has gone? It is like the consequences of a nuclear accident in a factory of waste waters mixed with wastes. The hundreds are necessary to take care of the mess, equipped of those chemical war games, but wings are reached about brave few, many of whom never wanted the festival in the first place. It is not as if in the Grasshopers that hate the dragoon could go away whereas the Fez is caught. As you can imagine many of ours mingers British charming drunkards will rob happy each thing that nails down, and these poor residents must remain to try to exercise a certain class of limitation of the damage, and can be ventured. A poor bastard that I know was beaten to try to stop levelling of people his close and to parquear in his garden! Fodder that the root of the problem is the name. The dragoons are vicious, egoistic, astute and destructive the beasts that put the sweepings to the things. That is what the dragoons do and who creates of another way is an idiot. All, F go well Bable bond fish has done one puta of that, but it does not pass anything. I do not have desire to mark everything in castelleno. F so shall i mark you down as a maybe then? Last edited by Dr Bunsen; 17-03-2009 at 09:02 PM..
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12-11-2008, 08:24 AM
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So this a new art form? Back and forth through Bable fish ? FFS!
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12-11-2008, 09:04 AM
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12-11-2008, 11:27 AM
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y por claro tio, la sistema de transdución "babel fish" no puede hablar español. Te digo si se pone ingles por Babel Fish a español y devolvar el resulto por inglés y hace lo por algunos pasos el texto final puede ser una nueva forma del arte ¿no? El resulto sobre me texto original (de babel fish)era una mierda de verdad
Pero tio este es muy lejo de lo orignal subjecto. El Drago si o no
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12-11-2008, 05:53 PM
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I DID write it in English, twas you that put it through Babel fish ...
LOL F
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17-11-2008, 08:47 PM
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Well I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MADDNESS AND GUESS WOT I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!! NO I DONT TAKE DRUGS OR DRINK AND GET WANKERED BUT AFTER SEEING THE SANITIZED EXCUSE FOR FESTIVALS IN ENGLAND LAST SUMMER I REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THE DRAGON IS. FREEDOM IS VITAL ,SELF RESPOSIBILITY IS VITAL . THE HEART OF THE DRAGON IS HERE HELP US MAKE EVEN BETTER COME WITH YOUR CREATIVE SPIRIT YOU WILL BE WELCOME. STUFF THE OLD FARTS WHO DON,T WANT IT IF THEY PUT MORE ENERGY INTO POSITIVE VIBES THE WORLD WOULD BE A HAPPIER PLACE. SEE YOU IN MARCH XXXXXXXXXX
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18-11-2008, 12:56 PM
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Thanks Ellie, there is a short story or two.
"FREEDOM IS VITAL ,SELF RESPOSIBILITY IS VITAL . THE HEART OF THE DRAGON IS HERE HELP US MAKE EVEN BETTER COME WITH YOUR CREATIVE SPIRIT YOU WILL BE WELCOME. STUFF THE OLD FARTS WHO DON,T WANT IT IF THEY PUT MORE ENERGY INTO POSITIVE VIBES THE WORLD WOULD BE A HAPPIER PLACE. SEE YOU IN MARCH" As to the above drivel, see my first post re naivety and responsibility (or even RESPOSIBILITY) So "freedom is vital", but anyone who doesn't agree is an old fart????!!! Hello! Engage the brain.Have a reality check. It will take rather more than a vibe or two to change the reality of the Dragon, see my first post, it says it all. Last edited by SU27FLANKER; 18-11-2008 at 01:00 PM..
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18-11-2008, 03:05 PM
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all those people what say "it will / should still happen" remind me of the attitudes around the East of England until 2007 or so..
what is interesting here is the anti's aren't your normal middle aged local nimbys like in England. Many are themselves artists, creative people who have seen a good thing grow too big. I have no right whatsoever as a foreign national to influence a decision directly in another country, but I think there should be a public meeting hosted by the elected representatives of the local council to decide the way forward. However much positive spin people put on this or any other large "teknival", they represent simply a large crowd invading a EU nation mob-handed, and albeit temporarily rendering its law enforcement and local social structures essentially powerless. Whilst in the case of a large rave it may seem relatively harmless, the very fact this can happen could have more sinister overtones as Europe becomes less stable due to economic and political pressures. It would be better than the Guardia Civil being eventually tasked to sort it out which is what will eventually happen. --- Seriantia que quondam fuit Rollandi le Pettour in Hemingeston in comitatu Suff’, pro qua debuit facere die Natali Domini singulis annis coram domino rege unum saltum et sifflettum et unum bumbulum. 15 cans of Adnams.. 
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