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Old 10-08-2009, 09:26 PM
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It's hard getting your life back after smack

I'm struggling to regain the trust of my mum. She's adament that i'm still using and has forbid me from seeing my x girlfriend because she thinks she's the reason that I got on the gear. Maybe its partly true but we're boath clean now and she's really sick at the moment as she's having hep c treatment. I only wanted to borrow some money to catch the train and my mum went beserk at me telling me that she has no sympathy for either of us and shit. I haven't used since 2 wednesdays ago, and admitedly my mum caught me with a needle in my hand after I promised her I wasn't using. I can't regain her trust. I make a point of wearing t-shirts so people can see that I have no more track marks, but I just get told that I must be injecting somewhere else. I'm getting so wound up with being called a liar, it actually makes me want to use again cause i'm not getting any encouragement not to use I just get told i'm not telling the truth. I'm running out of steam. All I want is to be trusted to borrow some money to perhaps save my relationship wiith my x girlfriend which I really want to do. I've never felt the way I do about someone before. I could go on about her all day but I wont bore you. Anyway I'm just logging my thoughts at the moment I find it helps talking to people on here.


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Old 10-08-2009, 09:51 PM
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maybe you should show her this post.. it could help if shes that sort of person

otherwise, things dont happen in an instant, as you know with coming clean, and things arent gonna go your way, but just dont go backwards, youve done excellently and you know that whether your mum appreciates that or not, keep on pushing, 'break on through to the other side'

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Old 10-08-2009, 10:06 PM
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Dude its fucking hard, i'm not your typical junkie, I used to wear a shirt and tie to work and i'm well educated and well spoken peole find it hard to believe that i'm on gear when I go to the clinic I get dodgy looks asif i'm undercover old bill and stuff, so i've had trouble proving myself a junkie and now i'm having worse trouble trying to get people to believe me that i'm clean. Staying away from gear for 12 days has been a really hard task. I'm looking for an excuse to score all the time. I've been to the doctor to try and get a vallium script but he won't let me have them cause i've got previous with drug abuse and all he will give me is poxy anti psycotic pills. To tell the truth if he would give me a valium script I wouldn't have any problems worrying about sleeping, which is one of the main reasons that I started using in the frist place.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:19 PM
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keep it up, the1log. you've done well so far! just remember, the 2 weeks probably went slow from your point of view, but others might not percieve it as such a long time u have been clean, coz they were not having to deal with it in the same way. so it could take a wee bit longer than u thought
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:04 PM
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I have no words of wisdom, which is pointless posting here really.

But i wanted to say SOMETHING.

Just Keep going i guess. Even though im sure its a million times harder with people nagging on at cha.

They'll realise sooner or later.

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Old 11-08-2009, 07:12 PM
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i'm not your typical junkie,.
there is no such thing, everyone is an individual


and I dont mean to sound harsh / devils advocate but trust will take an ever so long time if ever for your mum to regain,

as you say she found you recently when youd promised....
just think of how many promises you have made and not stuck to - her inability to trust you at the moment is appropriate,

2 weeks not using to you is a long time and a HUGE achievement but to her its only just 2 weeks....

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Old 11-08-2009, 08:07 PM
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It's next monday thats gonna be the real challenge cos thats when I get paid my worhtless doll money. last time I had spent it before I knew it. I'm a bit more determined not to do that this time cos I have got a bit more confidance not to use and know how to manage my time a bit better.I'm still searching for a job and I went to drug counciling today, but I think counciling is a waste of time, the womans obsessed with people having to be depressed cos they have chosen to take drugs. I took drugs because I wanted to try it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:58 PM
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It's next monday thats gonna be the real challenge cos thats when I get paid my worhtless doll money. last time I had spent it before I knew it. I'm a bit more determined not to do that this time cos I have got a bit more confidance not to use and know how to manage my time a bit better.I'm still searching for a job and I went to drug counciling today, but I think counciling is a waste of time, the womans obsessed with people having to be depressed cos they have chosen to take drugs. I took drugs because I wanted to try it.
if your scared your gonna spend your cash on h when you get it .. mby spend it on something worth while b4 you get the chance ... like a few books or a game or something like that (this will allso keep you ocupied and take your mind off h)
think of something you want that will take up the cash b4 you get it and as soon as you get paid spend it on the item that's not drugs (this way you have no time to go get h) at least this will get you over the next few weeks till your out of the initial phaze of actualy kicking it .. and may instill a healthy habit into your life like spending money on things you will have something to show for in the long run as oppsed to wasting it on smack - also sports is good .. occupys the mind and gets you healthy at the same time

hope you continue to stay clean and all goes well with your mum ..

hope you keep up the good work dude


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Old 11-08-2009, 11:06 PM
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to be fair councilers try hard but they arent much help you have to do it for yourself


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Old 11-08-2009, 11:10 PM
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also i just had a thought ... if you wanna show your mum you are really trying mby you could let her look after the cash for you .. this way you won't be able to spunk it on gear and she will see that your not spending it on gear ...
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:58 PM
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to be fair councilers try hard but they arent much help you have to do it for yourself
mass generalisation - some are good some are shit - as with any job,

but as BitsNpeazes says - it is your choice at the end of the day, all they can do is help facilitate you

If your not getting on with the one you have there should be a process where by you can change to someone else?
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:07 AM
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also i just had a thought ... if you wanna show your mum you are really trying mby you could let her look after the cash for you .. this way you won't be able to spunk it on gear and she will see that your not spending it on gear ...
i was going to suggest this
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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Dude its fucking hard, i'm not your typical junkie, I used to wear a shirt and tie to work and i'm well educated and well spoken peole find it hard to believe that i'm on gear when I go to the clinic I get dodgy looks asif i'm undercover old bill and stuff, so i've had trouble proving myself a junkie and now i'm having worse trouble trying to get people to believe me that i'm clean. Staying away from gear for 12 days has been a really hard task. I'm looking for an excuse to score all the time. I've been to the doctor to try and get a vallium script but he won't let me have them cause i've got previous with drug abuse and all he will give me is poxy anti psycotic pills. To tell the truth if he would give me a valium script I wouldn't have any problems worrying about sleeping, which is one of the main reasons that I started using in the frist place.
Was it amitriptyline that the doc offered you????
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Old 12-08-2009, 04:28 PM
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different drug and probably was alot easier for me but iv not long ago about 3 weeks stoped doing coke it was taking over my life pretty much did it everyday even on my own at home i kn ow its sad but i couldnt help it for 4-5 months i used to be real big into bodybuilding when people saw me they knew that i was hooked on some sort of drug its so hard to break the habbit as much as you want to but after the first couple of weeks for me it got easier like you said at first i was looking for excuses to buy i stopped iv even pretty much stopped smoking weed now i can smoke when i choose after 10 years of smoking every day cos in my head i had to think of somethink you used to do that you loved and go do that thing mine was body building i been in the gym 3 weeks and put a stone on already cos when its a choice of food or drugs it used to be drugs like you i didnt see what it was doing to me but i could see what it did to my girlfriend of 9 years and i knew she would only stop if i did not sure if this helps you as i never tried h but maybe it will. barnzy
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:25 PM
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Was it amitriptyline that the doc offered you????
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No my x used to get them, there just as horrible though, He gave me zopliclone ( Zopiclone | Medicine | Patient UK ) and Atarax ( Atarax (hydroxyzine) ) They both give me terrible dreams in which I can't wake up, I also get these strange shocks where my body jumps. These come in quick sucsesion, I can find myself jumping 4 to 5 times in 1 minute. The dreams are horrible I feel asthough im spinning around in circles and all I want to do is wake up but I can't. Diazepalm helps me sleep perfectly but the doctor won't let me have any cos i'm a drug addict.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:29 PM
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also i just had a thought ... if you wanna show your mum you are really trying mby you could let her look after the cash for you .. this way you won't be able to spunk it on gear and she will see that your not spending it on gear ...
Thats not a bad idea but she's at work all day, what happens if I do need some money to go out and do something out of the blue. I spoze I could get her to leave a score or something hidden at home so I could call her perhaps. That's not a bad idea.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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No my x used to get them, there just as horrible though, He gave me zopliclone ( Zopiclone | Medicine | Patient UK ) and Atarax ( Atarax (hydroxyzine) ) They both give me terrible dreams in which I can't wake up, I also get these strange shocks where my body jumps. These come in quick sucsesion, I can find myself jumping 4 to 5 times in 1 minute. The dreams are horrible I feel asthough im spinning around in circles and all I want to do is wake up but I can't. Diazepalm helps me sleep perfectly but the doctor won't let me have any cos i'm a drug addict.
I was a heroin addict for 7 years,ive just finished a 2 year detox which has undoubtally been the hardest thing ive ever done,i was on meth then subutes at the very end,the doc gave me amitriptaline at the end to help me sleep cause like you i cant get valium and believe it they did work.I remember cumin from the docs hoping to have a valium script to help me sleep but she gave me them and i cursed her sorry ass all the way home,but i gave in and started takin them and they did the job,they calmed me down and let me sleep,maybe try them !!!.
The jumpin and shocks you are talkin about will carry on for a while yet,i used to get them terrible but they do go the more you body returns to normal.Keep up the good work,its a long and sometimes lonely road cumin off gear but when you finally achieve it you will feel like the proudest person in the world,trust me its worth all the sleepless nights.Take care hun,DDDxx
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:04 PM
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Well its exactly 14 days since I last used ans temptations are running high. I need to find something to do quick!
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Don't give in now!! you don't want to be going through it all again. dunno what to suggest to keep you busy,
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think about how bad ull feel if u do it again, 2 weeks back to 0 days clean


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Well its exactly 14 days since I last used ans temptations are running high. I need to find something to do quick!
Hang in there sunshine - its tough now but it does get easier. Maybe make a list of all the reasons you have for staying clean and keep it somewhere handy? so you can look at it when you dither?

WRT your mum she is likely going to take a wee while to trust you - trust has to be earned back. Do you talk to her a lot about whats going on or do you feel she wont understand? Were you close before?


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Old 12-08-2009, 08:08 PM
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Well i've told her everything which was the hardest thing i've ever done, but that was after she caught me with a needle in my arm. But no matter what I seem to say these days she thinks i'm lying, so now i've sort of started not to tell her so much, cos I just get a shitty answers from her. I'm not gonna use tonight anyway, it's too much hassle this time of night and also I aint got much money left and I don't get paid until monday and as poly said i'll be back to 0 days clean
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Go away, go on a cheap shit holiday.

Where no matter what really, Even when you're tempted theres no one to go pick up from, and there are constant distractions.

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have a wank, watch tv, draw, go for a walk, make food, chitty chat to us like kitty kat, make a chart and put a cross on it for every day you dont use, and spray it black and draw a raccoon on it for every time you do.
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have a wank, watch tv, draw, go for a walk, make food, chitty chat to us like kitty kat, make a chart and put a cross on it for every day you dont use, and spray it black and draw a raccoon on it for every time you do.
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