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#1111
06-09-2009, 01:13 PM
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It is easy to get frightened by all the heavy medical words, but the toxicity of 4-MMC seems equivalent to that of dexamfetamine which has been used both recreationally and by the "legit" medical profession for decades. bear in mind that recreational dexamfetamine and MDMA users are not always getting pure stuff whilst mephedrone is usually much purer - hence people taking larger doses by accident. --- Taai is mijn leven als een kat. 
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#1112
06-09-2009, 01:35 PM
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i was talking to cliffy about mephedrone and methamphet and how i thought there might be simalaritys not so long ago... i allso got really bad tremmors when coming down after a few days on mephe at a festival .. mind you it was frezzing at the time and i was in a tent .. so this may of had alot to do with it
 --- VIRUS OF THE MIND by Richard Brodie (The science of memetics) Chapter Eleven...Designer Viruses (How to Start A Cult) :- "The first man who, having fenced in a peice of land, said, 'this is mine,' and found people naive enougth to belive him, that man was the true founder of civil society'." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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#1113
06-09-2009, 02:12 PM
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That document has been around for a long time. I was a bit concerned on reading it but my dr listened to my heart and said its fine/valves are fine. Also I repeat if u are worried about ur heart then go to the dr's and get it checked it takes 2 mins for a dr to listen to ur heart with a stethescope and tell u if theres anything wrong with ur heart valves.
If u are getting a sore chest while doing mephedrone its quite simple. dont do any more mephedrone regardless of if its done serious damage or not. But its also worth pointing out people who appear to be getting any trouble from it are binge takers. i plead guilty to that put cocaine at 10 quid a gram and make it legal and the same problems would occur
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#1114
06-09-2009, 02:17 PM
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I feel I need to make a comment to this.. Just because your doctor listen to your heart and say everything seems fine it's not a 100% guarantee that everything is fine.. He can't find all problems just listening, you need to get examined properly on a hospital for that.
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#1115
06-09-2009, 02:26 PM
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a dr can tell if there is anything wrong with ur valve by listening to it. U can get an ECG and chest X ray at the hospital but would only get that if u were in serious difficulty.
Its the valves in ur heart that a few mephedrone documents have claim may be toxic to, and your dr can tell if theres anything abnormal about ur valves by listening to it. of course it not a 100% guarantee what is 100% guarantee apart from the purity of my meph, its a very high chance if u had damaged ur heart it would be picked up by the dr by simply listening to it as it sounds different if there is anything up with it.
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#1119
06-09-2009, 04:43 PM
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Last edited by Buzz; 06-09-2009 at 04:46 PM..
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#1120
06-09-2009, 04:48 PM
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--- Guerilla Raver 
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#1121
06-09-2009, 04:58 PM
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'crustation' hahha yeah, but then your socks start to run out its an expensive method well that depends how often you play tug of war --- The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.
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#1122
06-09-2009, 05:06 PM
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#1123
06-09-2009, 05:38 PM
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I was just on the phone to my mate about drone and he came up with a very interesting question. Can this stuff actually be used as plant food? made me laugh cos i don't actually know the answer lol!
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#1124
06-09-2009, 05:42 PM
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i wonder the same thing cliffy, but do people use '2c-x' for experiments.... or salvia for incense.... you could, but you never ever would cos they'd be crap for those sort of things
--- Nah Pop No Style, A Strictly Roots
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