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Old 11-12-2007, 12:21 PM
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My thought is pretty straight forward. It is your body, you should have a right to say what you do to it, GRANTED you are not hurting anyone else in the process...but think about it how long did we allow people to hurt others will smoking until pubs/bars went smoke free...yeah so...
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I think legalizing drugs would take all the fun out of things! I for one am against it


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Old 17-12-2007, 12:57 PM
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I think legalizing drugs would take all the fun out of things! I for one am against it
yeah man im with you,
me-hey man you alright?
mate- yeah man cant complain really you out tonight?
me -well but of course
mate-wicked shall we get some pills make it a good-un?
me- yeah sure ill just pop down costcutter now
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Old 17-12-2007, 01:40 PM
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yeah man im with you,
me-hey man you alright?
mate- yeah man cant complain really you out tonight?
me -well but of course
mate-wicked shall we get some pills make it a good-un?
me- yeah sure ill just pop down costcutter now

am sure poundland or netto would sell the shite ones!


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Old 08-02-2008, 01:27 PM
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UK drug laws are appalling and should be scraped.

Reason 1. They do not work at all and never have.

Reason 2. Personal freedom.

Mr Politician telling me what I can and cannot smoke, eat, drink, snort or inject. On yer bike pal it's my body I decide not you. Simple!
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:35 PM
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UK drug laws are appalling and should be scraped.

Reason 1. They do not work at all and never have.

Reason 2. Personal freedom.

Mr Politician telling me what I can and cannot smoke, eat, drink, snort or inject. On yer bike pal it's my body I decide not you. Simple!
My thoughts exactly, they like to decide what chemicals we ingest, flouride (SP?) in the water for example.

Its your birth right to decide what you do with yourself as long as you don't harm others, illegal and legal aint the same as right and wrong just remeber that.

Don't even get me started on euthansia and sucide.

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Old 08-02-2008, 01:39 PM
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I think legalizing drugs would take all the fun out of things! I for one am against it
Dodgy pills with little or no MDMA. Fun?

Heroin users that OD because a batch is much stronger than usual. Fun?

Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?

Counting the days the weeks/months/years to run before your parole. Fun?

Cocaine with more cut in it than gear. Fun?

Kids shooting each other over drug related turf wars. Fun?

Social stigma. Fun?

Arrest for possession. Fun?

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:44 PM
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Dodgy pills with little or no MDMA. Fun?

Heroin users that OD because a batch is much stronger than usual. Fun?

Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?

Counting the days the weeks/months/years to run before your parole. Fun?

Cocaine with more cut in it than gear. Fun?

Kids shooting each other over drug related turf wars. Fun?

Social stigma. Fun?

Arrest for possession. Fun?

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
amen
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:55 PM
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Dodgy pills with little or no MDMA. Fun?

Heroin users that OD because a batch is much stronger than usual. Fun?

Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?

Counting the days the weeks/months/years to run before your parole. Fun?

Cocaine with more cut in it than gear. Fun?

Kids shooting each other over drug related turf wars. Fun?

Social stigma. Fun?

Arrest for possession. Fun?

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
Calm down matey i see ur many points and agree wit ya but did i say all that? Don't think i did, did i?
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:10 PM
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Calm down matey i see ur many points and agree wit ya but did i say all that? Don't think i did, did i?
No offence intended DJCliffy, it is just that the illegality of our favourite substances is not really a fun thing. I just wanted to point out a few of the reasons why prohibition is not fun in many circumstances.

I know that all you said was that 'it would take the fun out off it' and a number of people agreed. I cannot see how the law adds any fun whatsoever.

All I meant to do was present some of the non-fun aspects of the current legislation.

Personally, I think the law is hypocritic bull-shit and desperately needs attention.

Please don't take it as a personal attack, it certainly was not meant that way at all.
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:17 PM
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No offence intended DJCliffy, it is just that the illegality of our favourite substances is not really a fun thing. I just wanted to point out a few of the reasons why prohibition is not fun in many circumstances.

I know that all you said was that 'it would take the fun out off it' and a number of people agreed. I cannot see how the law adds any fun whatsoever.

All I meant to do was present some of the non-fun aspects of the current legislation.

Personally, I think the law is hypocritic bull-shit and desperately needs attention.

Please don't take it as a personal attack, it certainly was not meant that way at all.
Thats cool my man, i know it wasn't I do agree with ya tho on some of those points, our drug laws are relic's from the past and proper need to be bought into the real world! Although i do think if drugs were to be legal they'd be fooking expensive and the price would always rise cos the govt. would see em as a potential tax earner. Thats why i wouldn't wanna see most drugs legalised because of the potential price increases the govt would impose!
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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drugs are more fun illegal, lot of fun times when we were 15 trying our hardest to score some weed, best bit about it back then if u could go down the chemist and buy a bag we would have jsut sat at home lik boring little stoners, it being illegal made it more fun and life is about fun isnt it?


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drugs are more fun illegal, lot of fun times when we were 15 trying our hardest to score some weed, best bit about it back then if u could go down the chemist and buy a bag we would have jsut sat at home lik boring little stoners, it being illegal made it more fun and life is about fun isnt it?
Exactly.
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:35 AM
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Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?
why did u assume we dont know what soapbar is?
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Old 28-02-2008, 07:47 PM
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why did u assume we dont know what soapbar is?
No assumptions Jonny. Everyone knows what soapbar is, that's a given.

I just read an article about the toxic crap that can and often does find it's way into soapbar. That was all.
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Don't ever shower with soapbar. doesn't work.
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Old 28-02-2008, 10:09 PM
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drugs are more fun illegal, lot of fun times when we were 15 trying our hardest to score some weed, best bit about it back then if u could go down the chemist and buy a bag we would have jsut sat at home lik boring little stoners, it being illegal made it more fun and life is about fun isnt it?
Just to reiterate.

Dodgy pills with little or no MDMA. Fun?

Heroin users that OD because a batch is much stronger than usual. Fun?

Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?

Counting the days the weeks/months/years to run before your parole. Fun?

Cocaine with more cut in it than gear. Fun?

Kids shooting each other over drug related turf wars. Fun?

Social stigma. Fun?

Arrest for possession. Fun?



Having a teenage giggle when you make your first score might be fun.

Some of the above is clearly not.

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
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Old 28-02-2008, 10:23 PM
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Just to reiterate.

Dodgy pills with little or no MDMA. Fun?

Heroin users that OD because a batch is much stronger than usual. Fun?

Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?

Counting the days the weeks/months/years to run before your parole. Fun?

Cocaine with more cut in it than gear. Fun?

Kids shooting each other over drug related turf wars. Fun?

Social stigma. Fun?

Arrest for possession. Fun?



Having a teenage giggle when you make your first score might be fun.

Some of the above is clearly not.

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
I wouldn't take it so seriously mate. I know you have some valid points but we've been through this before haven't we.

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Old 28-02-2008, 11:36 PM
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this is relivent to jonny and jules dog's posts .....

imo there will be a black market in drugs weather or not they are leagal as they are never going to make heroin a non class drug as with most other drugs ... they are only going to make them accsesable in some kind of restricted form wether it be pescription for adicts or lower class drugs that you can buy but not sell as you might have seen with certain drugs..... as it is now, normaly the trend is that a drug is discovered, for what ever perpose, then used for recreational perpouses, then restricted in some form or another ... not the other way round ..like opium that once was legal and "cool" to take many years ago has now become illigal... many trippy drugs up to the moden day legal high shops kind of drugs that are continuasly getting banned as they become popular and even when they did make weed a lower class they tightened up on that pritty soon .... the fact is that they dont want you to be taking drugs for fun only to get off them or if you need to through a medical condition .... i reacon that alcohol and tobaco .. the main leagl drugs avalible to the whole population are only leagal still because of the history of them being a big part in sociaty .... and the fact that they earn them a fuck load of money off them.....as with opium i suspect that there will be some kind of ban on them ie. tobbaco has gone up to being 18+ not 16+ as used to be the case and that only the begining i fear.....wide spread socal aceptance of illicit drugs now days is non existent with the majority of the "older generation" and a few of the "younger generation".... the people who are going out the most caining it are the 15-25's ..(just to put a rough age groupe on it) and the majority of the people working in the "top end jobs" that make up these disitions are the "older generation" due to them being more "responcerble" and "wiser" ect. all that condercending bull you get from people that think they know better (not dising older people .. just seting the scean of the mind set) ...i think that if drugs have any chance of being in our full range of legal choise is very far away .. for me it's allways gonna be fun taking drugs weather there leagl or not .. i drink like a fish and still enjoy it even tho i buy it from my local corner shop ..and i agree that there should be alot laxer laws regarding this kind of shit .. but untill the people concerned sought there heads out or people with the nesasary experiance in life to deal with these matters in life have some kind of powers ..weather it be a voice thats listerened to via public demand or a voice of power... we just gonna have to w8 for any "real" developments....


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Old 29-02-2008, 12:04 PM
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Soapbar with all kinds of toxic adulterants added. (Type soapbar into google). Fun?
to be fair i think soapbar is goin out the market, havent seen any for years

i used to smoke it when i was 13 and wanst clued up £35 a quarter ounce, ah dear me


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Having a teenage giggle when you make your first score might be fun.

Some of the above is clearly not.

Getting high on your favourite drug(s) without fear of prosecution, harassment and the knowledge that your drugs are clean. Now that's more like it.
i agree just like getting to work on time and saying hello to the boss, shiney shoes, early nights, always knowing the time and getting told what to do i like drugs the way they are,


alcohol is a drug and its legal, causes a shit load of problems
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to be fair i think soapbar is goin out the market, havent seen any for years

i used to smoke it when i was 13 and wanst clued up £35 a quarter ounce, ah dear me
I still smoke dope - mind you, perhaps its got somefink to do with being on the dole and its cheap - £5er an 1/8

Mind you, I prefer weed on the comedown - I don't like smoking weed all the time - but I prefer the body buzz pot gives where as weed gives you more of a mental buzz


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I still smoke dope - mind you, perhaps its got somefink to do with being on the dole and its cheap - £5er an 1/8

Mind you, I prefer weed on the comedown - I don't like smoking weed all the time - but I prefer the body buzz pot gives where as weed gives you more of a mental buzz
what was i on about, i meant £35 an ounce

we had £5 for 1/8th too, which was alrite for schoolkids, dinner money went on hash and school dinners went unpaid for
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:43 AM
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i agree just like getting to work on time and saying hello to the boss, shiney shoes, early nights, always knowing the time and getting told what to do i like drugs the way they are,


alcohol is a drug and its legal, causes a shit load of problems
My awesome radar is detecting a tad of sarcasm.

Q. Do you think alcohol would cause less problems if it was illegal?

Prohibition in the USA was an absolute disaster.

I used to hold a similar view Jonny. Like it was more fun that drugs are illegal. But in time I realised that far too many lives were being wrecked because of stigma, prison time, gangland distribution, lack of purity, having to resort to crime to sustain a serious habit, lack of information, lack of truth, lack of education etc etc.

I find your analogy of 'behaving for the boss' somewhat interesting and ironic. In that the boss tells you what to do, get in early, shiney shoes etc. Concerning drugs, our government takes on the role of 'the boss' and it tells us what we can and cannot do'.

Fuck the boss - nobody should be able to tell us what we can and cannot put in our bodies.

What aspect of the current drug laws do you find attractive?

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What aspect of the current drug laws do you find attractive?
the anarchism and im not saying make alcohol illegal would stop problems thats jsut my point shit would still be bad if things were legal, drug dealers trying to undercut shops, shops selling drugs robbed i like em illegal cause i dont like the government
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