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Old 04-12-2008, 12:49 PM
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whats the best meds to treat stomach cramps??? ive got hold of some gaviscon & rennies hopefuly it will pass ive felt the pain for the last 2 days its like mike tysons been using me belly as a punch bag
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whats the best meds to treat stomach cramps??? ive got hold of some gaviscon & rennies hopefuly it will pass ive felt the pain for the last 2 days its like mike tysons been using me belly as a punch bag
its not that funny mate. a mate of a mate had to have her bladder scrapped cause of k. Also it might be mentally addictive, but not physical. You've just gotta think fuck it and stop. Id have thought that K cramps would have been that catalyst. If i ever experience them im gonna cut my use right down. I only use maybe a couple of g if that and only at the weekends, sometimes not for a few weeks so hopefully i shouldnt get em. As far as i know gaviscon and rennie are for indigestion, so cant really see them working. when i had really bad food poisening and had savage stomach cramps i got given really strong codiene, but you dont really want to be taking them to get over k cramps when instead you could just cut back a bit on the wonk.


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Old 04-12-2008, 02:12 PM
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K is deffinately mentally addictive,last litre me and mrs acid got ,didnt leave home(except to shop)for over a weekk land just kept calling!not had the cramps thing as now only do it sporadically
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fortunately the meds i bought have helped alot and the sore tummys completely gone for now. fucking relief cos wen i woke up to go to work this morning i could barely move and yea it aint funny rele. i think K makes acid build up in your stomach wich makes it hurt like fuck, my mate (who does more k than me) had a stomach ulcer and spent a week in hospital luckily hes allright now but chose to start sniffin again straight after his recovery, that how addicitve it is! ketamine really removes your mind from your body and everything else going on around you so a little thing like a sore tummy isnt enuff to stop most people from sniffin more. the meds i got take care of the acidy belly (aswell as indigestion) thank lord! theres isnt much K left going about up here so this weekend we'll probly sniff the last of it and then it'll be time for a long break from it. thts kinda how we do it up ere.
and yea bladder problems are common but thankfully i have healthy kidneys cos i barely drink n e thing except for cranberry juice and water these days. No burning piss as of yet!
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ketamines pretty addictive mate. ive been suffering from k cramps the last couple of days (my first k cramp attacks ever) but because we get K in bulk amount up here, i keep sniffin. its a bit like if youve got a big bag of weed, or coke - your gonna stay high till its all gone arent u. its ridiculously addicitive! As far holdin down a job goes, i work shifts in a place where there are other k heads working there too, the tollerence builds up so you can still work at a good pace even though your a bit wobbly.
as far as doing it till its all gone, i think i had to teach myself self control when i used to have easy access to rugs. if the only thing regulating your habit is whether you can get it or not, then thats not a good situation to be in. i can turn down a line of coke, dont do pills/md anymore and stopped smoking weed. Im not being all wow check me out, but just saying its only a matter of saying no. personally i didnt find it that hard stopping those things cause once it clicked that they werent doing me any favours it felt like a relief stopping them tbh, especially weed. Guess some people just find it hard getting to that point tho.
Dont get me wrong i still like getting wrecked. its just now i know what i can and shouldnt do if i wanna stay happy.

also Where do you work? cause i cant imagine it being the most productive company if your all k-heads!
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This isn't helpful but i'm so glad i've stopped doing K u. Looking back on it i wonder why i touched the stuff in the first place. Bloody awful stuff! (Just my opinion, don't hate me!)


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This isn't helpful but i'm so glad i've stopped doing K u. Looking back on it i wonder why i touched the stuff in the first place. Bloody awful stuff! (Just my opinion, don't hate me!)
what about a wonky christmas?
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what about a wonky christmas?
Nah can't be arsed with it! Just gonna have a few orgies with my mate Mandy. I tells ya, she is filth!
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Nah can't be arsed with it! Just gonna have a few orgies with my mate Mandy. I tells ya, she is filth!
we'll see...
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we'll see...
Haha although all it will take is for someone to offer me a line of K and well you can imagine the rest. I've never been that good at saying no.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:47 PM
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ketamines rubbish if you do it evry day for any length of time neways cos of the tollerence. the trippy side of it goes and usually i jus get the brain being wrapped with worm wool feeling..
best to take long breaks from it between binges
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I HAVE PROOF.

I have proof from the very words of Alexander and Ann Shulgin that KETAMINE does have a health inpact and is a danger to your health.

THESE WORDS WERE FROM THE VERY GODPATHER OF SOME OF THE PARTY DRUGS WE TAKE NOW.


All I need to do now is arrange for a file about 25MG large on here.

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Old 16-01-2009, 02:15 PM
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perhaps you could cut and paste the relevant info from the bigger document, although as well as the wise words of an elderly chap in a foreign nation there is now also plenty of reliable evidence from Britain of K's risks, to the point it is making national news headlines...
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i dont really see the appeal of taking bare ketamine

the odd little bump to supplement mdma maybe, but tbh its not summat im a fan of


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have a read of this guys..

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Old 16-01-2009, 03:32 PM
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thats one of the best and most accurate warnings and its good that its coming from a "right on" type site rather than the NHS or feds...

that said headfuk were warning about excessive K use in 2001/02 (although of course people didn't know about the long term health damage)

it is fucking frightening TBH - I work for companies what care for older people and these sorts of medical conditions normally only occur in peopel in their 60s/70s and above

also my own father passed on through renal (kidney) faliure at age 57 after 20+ years of chronic ill health (this was exacerbated through his use of benzodiazepines which are also becoming depressingly popular on the party scene)

If youngsters keep condemning themselves to suffering these medical conditions as early as their teens/20s not only are they gonna go through personal hell (as will their families), we can all kiss goodbye to any chance of drugs decriminalisation across the EU in our lifetimes - as the public funded health authorities will quite rightly highlight the impact this is happening on all the EU nations..
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Having read that im so glad i stopped doing that rank shite! A few people i know have been admitted to hospital with bladder problems which can be directly linked to K abuse.
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Old 16-01-2009, 03:50 PM
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If youngsters keep condemning themselves to suffering these medical conditions as early as their teens/20s not only are they gonna go through personal hell (as will their families), we can all kiss goodbye to any chance of drugs decriminalisation across the EU in our lifetimes - as the public funded health authorities will quite rightly highlight the impact this is happening on all the EU nations..
i think it needs to be more widely known that ketamine can cause this shit
most of my mates who take ket think its safe as fuck, and that its basically just a medicinal drug what you cant overdose on and doesnt really have any adverse efffects

however this information needs to come from a right on source, not some fucking talk to frank or tabloid bullshit scaremongering
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Old 16-01-2009, 08:11 PM
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me and my boyfriend who are regular regular users of ketamine was given the link to that site from a fellow k head who is trying to clean his act up (even tho he was sniffing a line as he found the site for us *rolls eyes*) weve known about bladder problems for ages and have tried to talk to our doctors about it. I was admitted to hospital last year with chronic bladder dysfunction (due to ket) and tried to explain to the doctor that it as indeed ket that was the cause. but he just shrugged it off saying he doubts that would be the cause. but since brighton has a major problem with ketamine, recently a support group for ket users has been set up by Equinox, drug counsellers and on my last visit to them they seemed to know alot more about it. which is a good thing. so all the users out there do something good, if not for you but for others and do what the article says- TELL YOUR DOCTORS IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS!
Reading the article for the first time really hit home. made me think.. i dunno why coz ive known about these problems for years, ever since i started. Stopped us sniffing the quatre of ket we had just bought.. for that night atleast.
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MSM or MethylSulfonylMethane seems to be a good help with softening up the scar tissue in the bladder.. or rebuilding the walls. One of my mates has just started using it and has said the stuff really helps
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MSM or MethylSulfonylMethane seems to be a good help with softening up the scar tissue in the bladder.. or rebuilding the walls. One of my mates has just started using it and has said the stuff really helps
im gonna start taking that shit cos up till now weav been sniffin it like theres no tomorow! luckily i havent had n e bladder/kidney problems as of yet *touchwood* (im still in my first 2 years of useage). been drinking shit loads of water & cranberry juice, seems to help, not had alottof cramps rele. winter times the worst because its always dark all u wanna do is sit around & sniff K.
still love it though.
that web link was pretty messed up, whoever wrote that shit must be damn passoinate against K.
i think the lesson is to take long breaks from it whenever u can and detox. its worked for me n e ways & i can still enjoy my dabbles without all this 'pain and darkness' it supposibly causes. that website is a little bit OTT on the negatives IMO.
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im gonna start taking that shit cos up till now weav been sniffin it like theres no tomorow! luckily i havent had n e bladder/kidney problems as of yet *touchwood* (im still in my first 2 years of useage). been drinking shit loads of water & cranberry juice, seems to help, not had alottof cramps rele. winter times the worst because its always dark all u wanna do is sit around & sniff K.
still love it though.
that web link was pretty messed up, whoever wrote that shit must be damn passoinate against K.
i think the lesson is to take long breaks from it whenever u can and detox. its worked for me n e ways & i can still enjoy my dabbles without all this 'pain and darkness' it supposibly causes. that website is a little bit OTT on the negatives IMO.
ive had a blast!
once youve gone through the 'pain and darkness' mate that will definatly happen to you at somepoint if you carry on taking it like theres no tomorroe youll know exactly what they are talking about. but as u said... long breaks are good. gives your body time to recover. depending on how muchg you take and over how long will determine when you get these health problems.. its always a blast, but ill tell you.. the honeymoon period will ware off sooner or later
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once youve gone through the 'pain and darkness' mate that will definatly happen to you at somepoint if you carry on taking it like theres no tomorroe youll know exactly what they are talking about. but as u said... long breaks are good. gives your body time to recover. depending on how muchg you take and over how long will determine when you get these health problems.. its always a blast, but ill tell you.. the honeymoon period will ware off sooner or later
what is a bladder dysfunction like? did u get n e tell tales signs that there was something wrong before u got admited to the hospital? ive heard about burning piss but thats just cystytus and should go away if you drink the write stuff. how much r u doing (aprox)?
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what is a bladder dysfunction like?
it is when someone loses control over being able to urinate (to the point they piss themselves)

before that the body would normally gives signs of pain or irritation such as cystitis.

I doubt drinking the "right stuff" actually makes the symptoms go away as they are from irritation caused by the chemical being taken in such amounts. If you were to quaff a glass of premium paraffin you would still feel rum for a fair few days no matter how much freshly pressed free range organic eco-friendly fruit juice you followed it up with...

What does make the symptoms go away is giving the body time to repair itself by staying away from the chemicals - drinking things like cranberry juice will at least be healthier than other food/drink but isn't a miracle cure..

Bladder Dysfunction : National MS Society

Challenges in the Detection and Diagnosis of Bladder Dysfunction: Optimal Strategies for the Primary Care Physician

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my work can get a good price on incontinence supplies, perhaps I should go into business as it seems like a fair few people will be needing them at this rate..

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