Subutex

[dek-s]

[quote=dek-s]

Originally posted by globalloon

source for that please?

most smack addicts i know use both subutex and H in the same day... subutex to help them through a long night, and H as per usual in the daytake subs + say ta ta to any opaite /oid ,i got 70% pure smack in desperation ,injected the lot.....nada, .8gram £35 lighter though....subs r 4 the serious quitter or desparado. i'm on them ,but not the latter.

waiting list in dundee shithole is 18 months + if u don't go for piss samples every week ,ill or not....back to the start. i have horror stoies 'bout this shitty city,but later...suicide etc coz of evil city.

[Klam]

I was wondering if you or any one else could point me in the rite direction i was on subutex but i have now been changed over to suboxone and am finding it hard to cope with as i was a long term injector of subutex i was cutting the injecting down and wonting to stop full stop over time but now i have been placed on suboxone i had no choice but to stop the injecting and i am finding it very hard to deal with if i could get a private script of subutex i fill that i could reduce my self to nothing as i was on two 8mls and one 2mls of subutex a day at the start but ended going down to 6mls a day</p>

[Klam]

Originally posted by cliffchuff

a word of warning as an agonist subutex willkick off any opiates present from your neuro-receptors precipatingimmediate withdrawel a fucking killer cluck, make sure you are clucking before you take it to ensure you only get the positive effects, its a bout 50% of a heroin high and leaves you mentall/emotionally clear which for anyone using meth or gear to smother emotional stuff may not be fun.

Iv been on subutex for years and at the start of me taking subutex i was not to sure if i wonted a break from herion or if i wonted to stop full stop and iv lernt not to take herion on top or even the same day as sub's as this my friend is the worst cluck you will every experiance in order for me not to cluck and to use herion was to go with out my subutex for at least 11 to 24 hours depending on the amount of subutex i had taken but for the last 3 years iv been herion and crack free thanks to subutex and the few real bad clucks iv had of using herion on top of subutex has kept me usign subutex instead of herion

[mikee_b125]

in nottingham uk there is a rapid prescribing team who can get you on a script in 2 days so im pretty sure other places in the uk have similar facilities. Dont bother with your own gp try calling services like double impact/compass or the criminal justice intervention team.I currently collect 8mg of subby every day and it took me 2 days to get the script sorted.

[Raj]

Thanks for the info Mike

[dek-s]

THE WORDS-SUBOXONE +NALTRAXONE THROW ME INTO W/Ds !...I DID MY HOMEWORK ON THE DAMAGE +DEATH RATES DUE TO LIVER DAMAGE WITH NALTRAXONE. I DID THE £3000 DETOX 5,5000 SUCCESFUL DETOXES (TILL THE KILLER DOSE OF SEDATION WEARS OFF!) MY CHALLENGE DOSE WAS DISTRACTING THE (NURSE?)WHILE I DUMPED IT..SO I'VE GOT BOXES OF THE CRAP(USEFUL TO DABBLERS WHO GET WORK MEDICALS OR GETTING THE BASTARDS WHO LET YOU CLUCK IN THE PAST. NOW I'M STABLE ON SUBS,I FIND I'VE GOT LOTS OF ENERGY ETC. ,BUT TEND TO TAKE NO SHIT OFF ANYONE. MY ONLY COMPLAINTS IS ADMINISTRATION.. TO GET THE DOSE RIGHT YOU SHOULD USE IT (IM),(IV) IS GOING BACK TO NEEDLITIS (GUILTY..ISH MYSELF) BUT CUT FROM 16MG TO 8MG IN 3 WEEKS. STARTING TO REDISCOVER MY YOUTH AFTER 27 YRS OF USING. TIPS FOR PRIVATE SCIPTS:SHOP AROUND COZ CHEMISTS CAN CHARGE WHAT THEY LIKE. IF YOU KNOW A GOOD ONE ASK IF THEY COULD WAIVER THE ADMIN FEE +TELL THEM YOU KNOW IT SHOULD BE NHS +50%. I'M BEING CHARGED APROX.£3 PER 8MG,BUT QUOTED £16 EACH IN THE FIRST I TRIED. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

[SD]

See this?

If you have an interest in subutex, this is crazy!

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...risons/1165647

[DIONYSUS]

WTF?!

...and which although not advocating smuggling, advises prisoners: 'To avoid injury use strong, smooth packaging and put plenty of lubricant (eg.Vaseline) on your bum and on the object before insertion. '

The prison service have not put their name to this version - but they're aware, say Lifeline, that it will be circulated.

[mikee_b125]

Originally posted by dek-s

THE WORDS-SUBOXONE +NALTRAXONE THROW ME INTO W/Ds !...I DID MY HOMEWORK ON THE DAMAGE +DEATH RATES DUE TO LIVER DAMAGE WITH NALTRAXONE. I DID THE £3000 DETOX 5,5000 SUCCESFUL DETOXES (TILL THE KILLER DOSE OF SEDATION WEARS OFF!) MY CHALLENGE DOSE WAS DISTRACTING THE (NURSE?)WHILE I DUMPED IT..SO I'VE GOT BOXES OF THE CRAP(USEFUL TO DABBLERS WHO GET WORK MEDICALS OR GETTING THE BASTARDS WHO LET YOU CLUCK IN THE PAST. NOW I'M STABLE ON SUBS,I FIND I'VE GOT LOTS OF ENERGY ETC. ,BUT TEND TO TAKE NO SHIT OFF ANYONE. MY ONLY COMPLAINTS IS ADMINISTRATION.. TO GET THE DOSE RIGHT YOU SHOULD USE IT (IM),(IV) IS GOING BACK TO NEEDLITIS (GUILTY..ISH MYSELF) BUT CUT FROM 16MG TO 8MG IN 3 WEEKS. STARTING TO REDISCOVER MY YOUTH AFTER 27 YRS OF USING. TIPS FOR PRIVATE SCIPTS:SHOP AROUND COZ CHEMISTS CAN CHARGE WHAT THEY LIKE. IF YOU KNOW A GOOD ONE ASK IF THEY COULD WAIVER THE ADMIN FEE +TELL THEM YOU KNOW IT SHOULD BE NHS +50%. I'M BEING CHARGED APROX.£3 PER 8MG,BUT QUOTED £16 EACH IN THE FIRST I TRIED. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

Where can you buy subutex from the chemist? as far as i was aware it is a controlled drug in the u.k which can only be prescribed by doctors with a licence from the home office.

[wingman]

yes you can get them here in israel very easy but am not so sure about them i have tried sevrel times.and it did not work.but maybe i was doing some think wrong. they are about 25$ apill. but at the same time i have read so much good things about them.what i want to know how much time does it take for them to work.am so dissaponted theyare the magic pill so everyone says i tried agian 3 days ago it did not work or maybe its me being a coward after 3 hours i broke an called my mr brown now am thinking about methadone i just want my life back everday 200$ on smack an crack. its a lot of cash.i know when you start methadone ther is no way back but for 7 years i have been doing this shit.for any one reading this never start with the brown.you open the gates of hell. anyway good look if you want help with the subs let me know.

[wingman]

i sent you a message yesterday.to keep it short an sweet.i took my sub after 18 hours of my last hit of brown.but saying that i sniffed 1clonex to put me a sleep woke up feeling ok it had been over 18 hours apart from the clonex that was about 6 hours.took 6mg of sub felt ok just a bit run down cold but no pain.so i thought i best take the rest of the sub. hour later i was in full wd.leg cramps pain. i was in a mess then i had to call mr brown to sort me out.how long does it take before you feel good.i mean if i wait say 20 hours to make sure ther is no gear in me how much sub should i take an will i have any wd. i cant stand any pain.am now thinking the methadone is the best for me. any advice will be great.

[DaftFader]

Originally posted by djprocess

WTF?!

...and which although not advocating smuggling, advises prisoners: 'To avoid injury use strong, smooth packaging and put plenty of lubricant (eg.Vaseline) on your bum and on the object before insertion. '

don't say that .. you will have jonny on this thread asking if any one has tryed this method of smuggling out ..lol

[Raj]

Originally posted by wingman

i sent you a message yesterday.to keep it short an sweet.i took my sub after 18 hours of my last hit of brown.but saying that i sniffed 1clonex to put me a sleep woke up feeling ok it had been over 18 hours apart from the clonex that was about 6 hours.took 6mg of sub felt ok just a bit run down cold but no pain.so i thought i best take the rest of the sub. hour later i was in full wd.leg cramps pain. i was in a mess then i had to call
mr brown to sort me out.how long does it take before you feel good.i mean if i wait say 20 hours to make sure ther is no gear in me how much
sub should i take an will i have any wd.i cant stand any pain.am now thinking the methadone is the best for me.any advice will be great.

Leave as long as you can between heroin and subutex for the safest use - the interactions between the two are nasty and can send you into heavy withdrawls.

The clonex will probably help smooth the transition for you and it may be an idea to have something handy for diarrhea as thats not very pleasant either.

The cramps in the legs I am not 100% sure but orange juice/vitamin C may help a bit with that.

Could you answer for me - what is the attraction of opiates for you? Please be as detailed as possible Also how much opiates are you using before trying to change to subutex?

NB You should get proper medical advice from a Doctor about your drug use. I am not a primary care medical adviser and my advice is not meant as a substitute for a Doctors advice.

[e_babes]

Let me just point out before we have a flood of enquiries that those of you who do wish to purchase Subutex perhaps you could take the following advice:

Google in something like Online Pharmacy Reviews or something to that value - you will find that there are similar boards to this one with the information of where to buy all sorts of prescription drugs and non prescription drugs all with full reviews and ordering experinces and drug lists and most important of all web sites for you to look at.

I've only found Subutex in 0.2mg however, there are some cheap sources - eg $60UD for 30 tabs.

Good luck and happy hunting.

[wingman]

Originally posted by Raj

Leave as long as you can between heroin and subutex for the safest use - the interactions between the two are nasty and can send you into heavy withdrawls.

The clonex will probably help smooth the transition for you and it may be an idea to have something handy for diarrhea as thats not very pleasant either.

The cramps in the legs I am not 100% sure but orange juice/vitamin C may help a bit with that.

Could you answer for me - what is the attraction of opiates for you? Please be as detailed as possible Also how much opiates are you using before trying to change to subutex?

NB You should get proper medical advice from a Doctor about your drug use. I am not a primary care medical adviser and my advice is not meant as a substitute for a Doctors advice.

am using about 3bags of brown a day a bit more at weekends sniffing it as
for the pills vary rare i onley took last time.to make it a bit more easy. but i
think the clonex was the problem. because it was a good 18 hours since the
last line but the clonex it was 6 hours before i took half the sub i was ok
just a bit of cold no pain so i took the rest of the sub an that was it 1 hour
later full wd cramps felt shit. so i called mr brown an mr crack..i never seem
to get it right.i have been told as long as you have no opiates in the system
with in 1 hour of takeing the sub you will feel great full of energy and no wd
is this true? how long does it take before you feel good.as you know am
hopeing to get on methadone very soon but if not i will have to try the subs
again let me know what you think. thanks.

[e_babes]

Hi Wingman,

I was using about 0.5 of a gram minimum a day and injecting at the end of my usage.

Leave it as long as you can between doing gear and taking Subutex. I suggest when you are propper ill. The first dose will be hard and I felt better on day two. You will be full of energy and this was what I disliked about Subutex because it felt like doing speed. Day 3 you will feel marvelous, as long as you havent used.

If you do it right, within the hour you will feel better. Psycologically, you will feel better as soon as you put the tab under your tongue. If you have a lot of gear in your system, well, give it 30 minutes and you will be PROPPER IN THE SHIT as I found out.

I am very biased in my opinion between Subutex and Methadone. But as Agent Subbie says, you need to be honest with yourself and ask do you really want to give up or do you just want to maintain and be well? [paraphrased] If you want to give up you will do anything to do it, like I did in Detox.

Good luck and best wishes.

Elliot

crush em n snort em

[ace021]

[e_babes]

This is a really stupid asumption but you are taking the pills right aint you?

They are SUBLINGUAL. Under your tongue and let the body do the rest. Snorting them will only get you wrecked if you dont have a habit. In Bullingdon HMP its a massive thing down here and people always try and bully you for your script -

Any luck so far?

[dek-s]

In the news today a man got a mandatory 4 years jail for having 0.003g of cannabis on the sole of his shoe at customs in United Arab Emirates! Another had 3 poppy seeds on his clothing from a roll he ate at heathrow airport and received 4 years in prison too. Apparently codeine in any form is also a mandatory 4 years! I wonder what you get for a kilo of Smack? They won't be bragging about their crime... shit on my shoe and murdering a salad roll! I think we should ban sandals and beards at Heathrow, but fuck the tame 4 years and give them life without parole. Since I last spoke about private "subutex" scripts, I have been told that "IF" you manage to get on NHS subby program it is a 14 day detox and they visit your house every day to watch you taking it (that's in this backward shit hole... Dundee). As I said before finding a private doctor is the ONLY way to do it here. When I stayed in London I could get on up to 100ml of Methadone the same day and that was free, but not NHS (obviously). The waiting list in Dundee is aproximately 18 months. Even if you are on 5 mls you have to be supervised daily in the chemist (you're fucked if your employer walks in) unless he's on it too! Snyone looking for Benzos or any pharm meds try: offshore pharmacies do mail order. It's legal there. My mate gets 10mg valium (Roche) for aprox 15p each but e- mail them first!

ps: Buy the min. 1st time. 3 poppy seeds!

[Dr Bunsen]

[e_babes]

[QUOTE=dek-s]

Originally posted by globalloon

source for that please?

most smack addicts i know use both subutex and H in the same day... subutex to help them through a long night, and H as per usual in the daytake subs + say ta ta to any opaite /oid ,i got 70% pure smack in desperation ,injected the lot.....nada, .8gram £35 lighter though....subs r 4 the serious quitter or desparado. i'm on them ,but not the latter.

I can vouch for that. I myself do that and a lot of others here in the Thames Valley area either do or use to do the same.

Subutex at night and do the gear in the day. I was on 16mg subutex and still able to use on top.

I do think that the choices are clear - do you really want to get clean in which case Subutex is ideal or do you just want to be stable and methadone seems ideal - in my opinion.

I do agree that there is no support for addicts who are working, who are not of the usual croud of addicts. How are we supposed to make time for trips to some specialist, doctors, chemist daily and work and have a familly in between?

It does make me mad that these so called specialist groups never cater for us - it does seem that once they have you by the balls - THEY LOVE IT. They don't seem to care about wether you work or not and making ends meet.

I am refering to you NEUTRAL ZONE OF READING.............YES YOU!!!!

[ace021]

Hi i have a guy in france that sell Subutex. His email is mmd_bbk@hotmail.com
email him and tell him that ace send you and he will help you.

Have a nice day// Ace

[ace021]

Hi

If you need subutex 8mg just email mmd_bbk@hotmail.com
write ac021 in the email

Have a nice day