Making Acid aka LSD25 or Lysergic Acid Diethylamide

[gumz]

Anyone know any good websites?

Just curious on what is really in it...

I'd rather make my own so i know whats in it.

I'm taking chemistry so I have an idea of what I'm doing when i start. I just don't understand how to get my hands on some of the chemicals so any help would be awesome.

Thanks...

[Angel]

Don't do it..

[General Lighting]

TBH it is not worth the potential hassle; its a lot of dangerous chemicals and suspicious equipment to have to store (as well as the other stresses of your college course).

You will be looking over your shoulder all the time both for feds and gangsters.

And if you get caught you will do serious time in federal prison; more so I reckon than a street level dealer.

LSD is very rarely contaminated with other nasty substances and you take so little of the substance you are not going to get poisoned.

[twatey]

Erowid <- you proablly know this one, but its a great resourse.

[globalloon]

if you're taking a chemistry degree, the name should tell you exactly what it contains

[stax]

did read an artical on the net about how top make it from fosters beer! and other ingredients of course. not sure how much truth was in it tho. what about trying to extract the active ingridents from morning glory or hawian baby woodrose seeds, there legalaly bought from most headstores and im sure as a chemitry student that shunt be too taxing

[rainbowman]

Search for rhodium... good resource for stuff like that.

As for fosters beer thats not real either! Do you really think fosters is actually useful for anything at all?!?! lol

[Mustard]

Its pretty tricky to get the precursors required to synth lsd. Ergot in particular... Its also pretty tricky to do.. You would have more luck getting a pile of tryptmine base off a RC website and try to make some 2c-x (2cb sells well)

[rainbowman]

what do you mean by tryptamine base?

2C-B is a phenethylamine not a trpytamine!

I have seen 2C-H available on some research chemical sites which you can brominate into 2C-B but 2C-H is also illegal.

[Mustard]

Fair play, my bad.

Still I recon you would find it alot easier to get 2c-h than ergot/Lysergic acid, or other chems that would no doubt be hard to source needed to make lsd.. Alot of RC sites will ship 2c-x to the uk, despite the legality of it..

[rainbowman]

Yeah I think the lack of ergot is why there isn't more LSD and why people have started to produce the other psychedelic drugs as the precursors are easier to get

[noname]

You can buy ergotamine tartrate over the counter in Argentina (it's a migraine medicine, much like LSD is good for migraines)

The other precursors you need are relatively difficult to come by without drawing unwanted attention though, and as has been said, acid is a much harder compound to synthesize than most. The reason it is sometimes called LSD 25 is (contrary to a lot of the hippy myths you will hear) is because the particular compound was the 25th LSD derivative Hoffman synthesized in a set of experiments, and was given the name LSD 25 for ease of memory as much as anything else.

As a molecule, LSD is very fragile (if you shake the cyrstal in the dark, it gives off flashes of white sparks, meaning that the electron bonds are sensitive to giving off energy in spin forbidden transitions, and therefore breaking down)

LSD also has 3 stereoisomers possible ( D-iso-LSD, l-iso-LSD, and l-LSD), none of which are psychoactive. There are other substitutions, like N-Alkyl, and 1-hydroxymethyl substitutions, and a few substituting the pyrrole ring, but none are really anywhere near as effective as LSD 25.

Really a hell of a lot of hassle invlolved, and not something you really want to be involved in if there is any chance of getting visited by the old bill (you need vacuum chambers, chromatograph, centrifuge, and a vast amount of patience...)

If you want to know how it's done, and whats what, Erowid has the online version of TIKHAL, which has this page http://www.erowid.org/library/books_...tihkal26.shtml

Lots of good info, including the useful part about keeping acid tabs cool (if you put them into cold (pH neutral) water, or a fridge, the products of the molecules breaking down will in some part re-stabilise.

Much easier to buy them (impurities are not really a worry, as there won't ever be enough to damage you when the dose is in the microgram range. If it is kept in a cool dark place, it should stay fresh.

I assume....Not that I would know......being a good boy and all, I wouldn't actually know....)

[fbar]

Taking chemistry, 3 year of organic chemistry should give you the know how to manu. LSD. Its an involved process. Ergot to d-iso or d-lysergic acid, to the azide in the Stoll, Hofmann process, then d-lsd. Morning glory or Hawaiin Baby Woodrose gives you lysergic acid amide. Which ever method used starting from lysergic acid is a must. I have posted a list of synthetic methods a couple of weeks ago.

As for the net the best one I have seen is Tihkal by alex shulgin, web site by erowid even that contains errors. you use alcoholic KOH soln. at the starting of extraction from ergotamine.
LSD was not the 25 compound of lysergic acid. LSD was first manu. in 1937, but details of its sythesis were not published until 1943. In 1937 publication of lysergic acid dimethylamide was printed. Substitute diethylamine will give LSD. In 1943 LSD was the 14th compound of lysergic acid Helvetica Chimica Acta vol.26,964(1943). In same journal in 1955 vol 38,page 429 part 22 describes synthesis of d-lysergic acid dimethylamide.

At the end of this section it tells of substituting diethylamine to give lsd. on the same page part 24 describes l-lsd. Part 24a) describes d-LSD d-tartrate. This I am sure will be the date(1955) LSD will be known as LSD-25.

[imnotinsane]

hi i might be new here but i know where you can make a very cheap substitute for acid look up morning glory on www.erowid.org

[Dr Bunsen]